tde-users February 2022

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Is Bluetooth free?
by lee892533＠gmail.com 09 Jan '25

09 Jan '25

Yes, the songs are transmitted to your headphones, but that's over a paired Bluetooth connection between the headphone and the phone. And there's no cost to that. You only pay for the data transmitted to your smart device over the phone company's network by way of using the app. https://spacebarcounter.org

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Ksnapshot
by phiebie＠drei.at 03 Mar '23

03 Mar '23

Trinity 14.0.6 preliminary. Don't know if it is a feature of ksnapshot or a misconfiguration somewhere from me, but it is getting absolutely annoying what happens. I have a website, a document or whatsoever on my screen in full A4-papersize. Now I want a printout of a small part of it. Call ksnapshot, choose "region" "new snapshot" and then draw a border around the desired part. Press "print" and then print it. Bull... I get a print in landscape, useless and even worse not even the original layout reappears. Stop ksnapshot, restart it and same procedure with again the same miserable result. Stop, restart, same procedure but no actual printing, instead I look into the printer properties. And there, big surprise, landscape was marked as to be printed BUT all 4 orientations were grayed out, so I couldn't change that. Checked in tdeprint the printersettings, nothing wrong, in "instances" "settings" all 4 orientations were available and portrait was marked as to be applied in the default printer. Checked kprinter and of course the settings of tdeprint were there also valid. But then I had an idea. If I selected in ksnapshot a larger part of the screen, say more than half A4, what would happen? Yes, some ugly words from me and there it was: portrait was marked but still all 4 possibilities grayed out. So ksnapshot decides how it wants to print and doesn't leave the user a chance to get a result, that he wants. Utterly bull.... Any suggestion, where I could look to alter this behaviour? Phiebie.

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fish: vs. sftp:
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 15 Jul '22

15 Jul '22

Hi all! I just noticed that on daedalus sftp:/...-URLs do not work any more. Konqueror is stuck with a rotating circle and eventually times out. fish:/...-URLs work, but calculating the disk size of remote directories is kind of buggy, e.g. 22GB are counted as 9GB. Did somebody see this, too? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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lost double quote mark
by Felmon Davis 30 Apr '22

30 Apr '22

Greetings! I may have fumbled and hit two keys or something but now I don´t have a regular apostrophe (I get ´ instead) or regular double quotes (I get ¨ instead). I´m on TDE on Q4OS Buster. I´m sure someone has a quick fix at hand.... Thanks in advance! -- Felmon Verbum sat sapienti.

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Lost TDE Display Manager and other TDE issues after upgrade to Debian 11
by Edward 27 Apr '22

27 Apr '22

After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login manager back. > ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity > tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it. Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted to remove numerous Trinity packages. Is there a fix for these issues?? -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)

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Re: non-starting browsers - more info
by Jim 28 Feb '22

28 Feb '22

One more try... On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 14:22 (-0800), William Morder via tde-users wrote: > Now all of a sudden this issue, with almost none of my usual browsers able to > start up at all: it's blind-sided me, and I don't even know where to look for > the cause. I'm still curious as to what exactly that means. If you open a terminal window and try to start (for example) firefox, by typing firefox to the shell prompt and pressing the enter key, *exactly* what happens? Saying "doesn't start" is vague to the point of meaninglessness. (Or opera or vivaldi or whatever browser you like.) Does the shell say something like "command not found"? Does the shell report the browser crashed? Do you get a prompt back, but no window shows up on your screen? Do you not get a prompt back? Are there absolutely no error messages or similar that show up in your terminal window? Note that unless you have a very long window, a process that isn't using much CPU time might be far enough down the list that you won't see it with top or htop. If you really want to know whether it is there, open a second terminal window and try typing the command ps axuw | grep firefox (or grep for whatever browser you tried to start that "isn't starting") and let us know what it says. Jim

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Trinity on Slackware
by Hunter Ellett 28 Feb '22

28 Feb '22

Slackware 15 just dropped yesterday after a 6 year gap and I'm wondering if anyone here uses it knows how well supported it is. I know two folks on Matrix who do, but the way they talk the Slackbuilds by Ray-V are rather shallow. I'm thinking of using Slackware myself because of its incredible resistance to change (much like TDE) But, if Trinity is not well supported I don't know how it will go. I don't care for any of the desktop environments or window managers that come with it. For me it's either TDE, icewm, or nothing. -- ~ Hunter Sent from my Android device with K9 Mail

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strange visitors on top
by William Morder 27 Feb '22

27 Feb '22

Does anybody know what these processes represent? applet.py agent at-spi-bus-laun They show up in top, running as processes under my user name, PIDs are all close together in the 2600 range, but they are new visitors that I've never seen before. I've tried to track them down to their source, so far with no luck. I've had some other issues, too, but I don't know if they are related. Just getting used to running TDE on a different and newer machine, so I expect that things will change and I need to make adjustments. But I can't imagine what I might have installed that does this. These processes all run at near 100% CPU, although I don't really have much else running at present. In any case, since I haven't seen them ever before yesterday, I want to know. Any help or suggestions are appreciated. Bill

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Let the war end, off vs. on topic
by Michael 26 Feb '22

26 Feb '22

I find high irony that my namesake on this list has diametrically opposed views to myself as to how the users on this list should behave. Although I’m not fond of fascism in any form, lets force some middle ground anyway. (Again, the irony is strong...) Some background and realities first though. 1) This list has always had a huge amount of “off topic” correspondence. It is what makes this list enjoyable to many (possibly most) of the members. 2) Everyone on this list uses an email program that allows message filtering to enable their off vs. on topic desires. So, being the fascist I don’t like being, if you wish to create, or reply with, an “off topic” message to this list, please include, at the end of the subject line the completely disambiguous filterable keyword: [offtopic] The END. (Not that “The END” will stop any of you from expressing your opinions one way or the other, so do remember to change your reply’s subject line to: “Let the war end, off vs. on topic [offtopic]”) Best Regards All, (yes even to Mike) Michael

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non-starting browsers
by William Morder 26 Feb '22

26 Feb '22

Now here's another puzzle. I don't know if it's related to my previous question about unwanted visitors in top, but I decided that I ought to start a new thread. I managed to get rid of those pesky unwelcome visitors, and imagined that I was on the way to having a machine that actually does what I want. All of a sudden, most of my browsers will not launch at all. I even went on a spree, and downloaded lots of different browsers, just to try them out (and to see if I could get anything to connect to the Internet). Thus far I have installed urf, surf-raw, netsurf, netsurf-gtk, midori, epiphany chromium, icecat, links2, lynx, elinks, vivaldi-snapshot, seamonkey and palemoon. Firefox is of course already installed by default. My regular browsers are icecat (to block everything that's unwanted) and palemoon (for when I am blocked from sites such as archive.org, etc.). I also use seamonkey for only one thing, which is a small blog that I don't really maintain much any more, but still like to check in. And I generally use vivaldi-snapshot for all my "business"-type stuff, where I must use a direct connection. Until now, this system worked just fine, both on my desktop computer and (since early December) on this laptop. Now, suddenly, only palemoon will load at all, and I am blocked from archive.org. The only thing that I have changed is to remove non-free and contrib from the lines in my sources.list, since networking has worked fine without any non-free software. And by the way, this is not, strictly speaking, off-topic, because it probably concerns tdenetworkmanager, or something like that. Everything else that I've tested, so far, works okay. I can connect to the internet, I can send and receive emails, I can download stuff. When I check top, these browsers don't even seem to load. It's not like they start loading then crash; they don't even show up on top. I am about to try an upgrade. And if that doesn't work, to add non-free and contrib to my sources ... but I would really rather not do that, since it seems like it ought to work without them. Help, please! Any suggestions are welcome. Even snide comments and jokes would be a relief. Bill

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