> The question is rather: why is it so difficult to convince others of these
> facts. If one main distribution included TDE, I'm sure many more people
> would "rediscover" why KDE 3 was good.
>
> Thierry
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Here here old man
:)
Kate
{Moving to new thread}
On Thursday 21 November 2019 07:57:05 am William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
> On Thursday 21 November 2019 02:24:09 ajh-valmer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 20 November 2019 16:23:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > I think we are an interesting friendly community of peoples (and
> > > > others) who think similarly, have similar opinions, and we simply
> > > > talk about all things together, even if it's not strictly technical.
> > > > I think it creates a better friendly atmosphere here.
> >
> > On Thursday 21 November 2019 00:29:48 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > +1 Slavek, thank you, even if my keyboard can't spell your name.
> >
> > A technical and friendly list is not incompatible.
> > The friendly side is a good "motor" to help much better.
> >
> > The desktop is very important to manage the system.
> > The fact that people are fan of TDE, make them happy on Linux,
> > contributes to increase GNU/Linux and the free-opensource software.
> >
> > I don't understand some displaced reactions.
>
> I suggest that we develop some kind of consensus on how to handle this kind
> of situation. I do not wish to feel uncomfortable, nor do I want others to
> feel so. After we have participated in this list over several years, some
> of us have got to know one another better than others, but somehow we are
> expected to interact like AI bots without emotions.
>
> All the same, let's not keep going round like this. Let's just agree to
> take it private once it starts to go off-topic.
Personally I find the Off topic posts more interesting that the On topic
posts, so forcing people to go private just for list’s appropriate etiquette
sake seems a bit too far? Obviously anything actually private should go
private, or we possibly end up with annoying sales pitches.
In that regard here’s a proposal?
- If you’re going off topic, add to the subject “[OT]” (positioned about where
whoever adds [BULK] *).
(If someone went OT, be nice and add it for them in any OT replies.)
- Continue using the original thread just for on topic posts.
Okay, we’ve got Bill’s and my proposals (and de.bug’s I guess), everyone toss
out what you’d like to see. That way we can come up with a definitive “way
we do it here” statement. So people don’t get butthurt and leave in a
huff ;) . (Or maybe she/he thought I called him stupid for being young?
Lacking quality education yes, stupid, no... If they have the desire, anyone
can open a book and make up for any educational lack.)
I’ll shut up now.
Best,
Michael
* Speaking of the [BULK] thing, whoever keeps adding that would you please
edit your subject before sending the email to remove it? Better yet, edit
your rule/filter so it’s never added. Highly annoying that.
{Moving to new thread, might have snipped too much}
On Thursday 21 November 2019 08:51:24 am William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
> On Thursday 21 November 2019 06:25:42 Felmon Davis wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
> > > As for that lost donation, perhaps I will find warmth in my heart, and
> > > enough money in my account, to make up for the creepy insincerity of
> > > the previous retracted-but-never-truly-offered donation of others. I
> > > can't promise anything now, but maybe in another couple months. I will
> > > put my money where somebody else only talks.
> >
> > been thinking of sending something anyway, but retirement puts a crimp
> > in one's wallet. besides I sent something a yr ago and got no
> > acknowledgement which makes me worry about our founder.
>
> There are worse things to invest in, than having a computer desktop that
> actually works.
Years ago I decided I was going to donate $200 per year to some open source
project. Occasionally I’d split it up, but most often it went o Drupal, as
that is (was [1]) the open source project my business relies on. Last year I
sent it to TDE. This year I’m splitting it between TDE, MX Linux, and
Backdrop CMS.
But, like Felmon, I received zero acknowledgment it was received. (To be
fair, I’ve never received any acknowledgment from any donation I’ve made to
people at xda-developers either, so maybe it’s just a sole proprietor thing?)
I’m pretty sure donations to TDE don’t make a dent in Tim’s account
receivables, but . . .
Questions:
- Has anyone ever received a donation acknowledgment from Tim?
- Is there a donation acknowledgment page somewhere?
- Do we, the donators, think we should get one?
- Tim how are you doing? (Talk to us man!)
OT Questions:
- Does anyone else make a set amount of donations per year?
- Pro’s? Con’s?
- What other methods do people use for rewarding open source?
Best All,
Michael
[1]
In case anyone cares (this was the last ‘prediction’ for the next year
thread), here’s a overview explanation I did 2 years ago:
https://www.drupal.org/forum/general/news-and-announcements/2018-02-11/pred…
Hello all,
To my surprise TDE was featured in the latest issue of the german "Linux User"
magazine!
The article is not bad and may induce users who might not know KDE 1 to 3 to
take a look!
Thierry
> I think we are an interesting friendly community of peoples (and others)
> who think similarly, have similar opinions, and we simply talk about all
> things together, even if it's not strictly technical. I think it creates a
> better friendly atmosphere here.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Slavek
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed
:)
Kate
On 2019-11-20 2:24 p.m., Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 November 2019 20.02:57 ajh-valmer wrote:
>> TDE is not really for the nostalgic of KDE3,
>> but made for those who want a light desktop,
>> and nevertheless, with many rich options.
> I totaly agree. However I think many on this list are "experienced" computer
> users (I mean "old" :).
>
> We come from a time where computer ressources were scarce (few hundred KB of
> RAM, few Megabytes of harddisk - if any haddisk at all). What we wanted - and
> still look for - was efficency and stability.
>
> Modern geeks want screen effects, animations, videos instead of reading text
> files, "wizards" instead of learning how to do things. Any program that has
> not been "updated" for a few month is considered "unmaintained" on Android.
> So a Desktop environment that seems to have stayed the same for 10 years is
> for "nostalgic" people.
>
> I belong to those who are proud of knowing the value of things. I could run
> a "modern" DE on my computers, but why? TDE gives me everything I need, and
> Konqueror.
>
> The question is rather: why is it so difficult to convince others of these
> facts. If one main distribution included TDE, I'm sure many more people
> would "rediscover" why KDE 3 was good.
>
> Thierry
>
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I totaly agree, too.
TDE has been my one and only everyday desktop environment for many years.
What I like the most is its small footprint and so high customization
capabilities (see the screenshot :-).
I upgrade the OS using the TDE LiveCD on a new partition and then
re-install the programs I use all the time and copy the personal data
from the previous release.
When all is running as I want, I delete the previous partition.
I did this many times without any glitch for years.
I love the Baghira theme and kooldock utility. I build them from release
to release smoothly without any glitch.
I speak of TDE to all Linux users I meet and do my best to propagate its
usage.
I tried many DE's during my long programmer life: nothing beats Trinity
in term of configuration.
Long life to TDE!
Greetings all;
Despite asking repeatedly what was the largest count a maildirs index
file could have, I've never been graced with an answer. But my inbox
has been reimported as new installs took place over the years so that
from 2002 to now there were quite a few messages carrying a file system
date for Feb 5 thru Feb 6 2015, despite many of them carrying arrival
dates in their headers that were much earlier, clear back to 2002.
So just for S&G, I just moved all those to inbox subdir, killed the
indices and restarted kmail. Initial blast of rebuilding indices, then
settled to the bottom of the htop list. Maybe I was onto something, so
I did the same thing with an even higher count of messages dated Feb 6
2015. Stopped, waited 30 secs and restarted kmail, good 45 secs to start
as it did those indices new. But settled to bottom of cpu usage in
another minute. Then to preclude any confusion about the years, I
renamed the around 18 year only names for emc to emc-year, killed those
indices and restarted kmail. Wash, rinse and repeat on restart. I have
one more set of subdirs in the coco folder named only for the year, so
I'll do the same thing there so they are named coco-year.
I think I've found it.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
Hi friends,
we would like soon freeze the code and proceed to release R14.0.7. But we
need your help with translations. Some of TWTW (TDE Weblate) contributors
submitted their translations only as suggestions. We are therefore looking
for volunteers who will be willing to register a TWTW account and have
decided on these translations. Currently it concerns the following
languages: Italian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Turkish.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/weblate/user/anonymous/suggestions/
Of course, we welcome any new contributors to translations! If you want to
help translating for your language, visit the TWTW information page on the
TDE Wiki.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/TDE_Weblate_Translation_Workspace
If you have any questions about translating, feel free to send mail to the
mailing list or ask on IRC room #trinity-destkop where Chris will be happy
to help you :)
Cheers
--
Slávek
Here is the result of "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" :
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 350.468] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 350.472] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 350.501] (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for (null): -22
[ 350.502] (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:02:00.0: -22
[ 350.503] (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
[ 350.504] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[ 350.520] (II) Initializing extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 350.525] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension
(Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
Shame on me, many errors.
I want to install the nvidia driver non-free,
this one is installed, downloaded on nvidia site :
"NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.107.run"
Thanks, regards.
André