> On Wednesday 03 October 2018 10:41:10 Felmon Davis wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2018 schrieb deloptes:
> > >> Marvin Jones wrote:
> > >>> All of this "stuff" is Religion.
> > >>
> > >> Religion, Ideology, Philosophy
> > >
> > > All good reasons to fetch forks and torches, pile up the bonfires
> > > and hunt for ... oh, it's oktober ...
> >
> > however I'd warn against belittling ethical concerns as "religion,
> > ideology, philosophy" in the pejorative sense of the words (even when
> > we disagree).
> >
> > f.
>
> Since we are going far off-topic, I would remind everybody that all this
talk
> of "religion, ideology, philosophy" (pejorative or not) started with the
> notion that our choice of software and/or operating system is somehow
> a "political action" or a rebellion. (Choice of software meaning, e.g.,
> proprietary versus so-called "open source", or better, free/libre.)
>
> I pointed out that some would try to frame all our words and actions (or
lack
> of them) in political terms, as I used to be confronted by Marxists who used
> that argument. In the same way, our choice of food (kosher/halal, or not)
may
> be regarded by some as a religious choice. And so on.
>
> All these are types of fundamentalist thinking (about which you and I have
had
> discussions already). I see no harm in the universal awakening to a kind
> of "everything is love" experience, the desire to help others, to identify
> one's own being with every atom in the Universe, to get a sense that
> everything is Divine. This is a sort of "diversity is unity" paradox. The
> problem creeps in when, for example, those of a literalist bent would try to
> force everybody everywhere into their narrow interpretation of [*fill in the
> blank here*]. And this is why "religion, ideology, philosophy" come to be
> regarded as negative, or mostly negative.
>
> So the question is, How to achieve the greatest degree of freedom, happiness
> and fulfillment for the most people, while yet not infringing on that of
> others, or offending against their way of life? The short answer is, It
can't
> be done; not really. We can only try to broaden our experiences and
> understanding, act with good will and generosity towards others, and hope
and
> trust for the same in return.
>
> Regarding how this principle applies to software: Run GNU/Linux, with the
TDE
> desktop. Problem solved.
>
> For myself, by the way, I am glad that I cannot swim. That way, I will drown
> and fail the test, and spare myself getting burned at the stake.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
As a born and raised Irish witch, I can say this.
We believe in simple things.
"My freedoms end, when such freedoms infringe upon another"
"Live and Let Live"
"To each their own"
"Never assume to understand another, instead ask them to teach about
themselves."
"Never redefine another person's words."
There's more but I think I got what counts for this.
I choose gnu linux and kde because they worked. Everything else came after. No
politics no religion, no nothing. I needed a tool that would actually work
and as it turns out, was within me price range.. free.
I don't know how this was started. I will blame William of Morder, as I always
do, just easiest thing to do. In any case, that's all I have to say. Hope I
haven't offended anyone.
Kate
The Great and Terrible.
I see that TDE supports SmartCards according to
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/features.php .
I also see some smart card functionality in the source code of some of the
files.
What I can't find is any documentation on how to use it or set it up or any
of the user space applications for it.
There are two places where I'm looking for TDE support:
Login (TDM)
Lock Screen.
I currently have TDE installed via the debian packages for it for Debian
Stretch.
R14.0.5
Can someone point me to the documentation on how to get it work in TDE?
Thanks,
Jacob
> On Wednesday 03 October 2018 10:25:42 Kate Draven wrote:
> > > On Monday 01 October 2018 22:16:37 Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > On Monday 01 October 2018, William Morder wrote:
> > > > > On Monday 01 October 2018 12:21:14 Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday 01 October 2018, andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, the recent internet link below is in french.
> > > > > > > (28/09/2018)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I translate a little bit :
> > > > > > > The Linux system "cloud Azure" of Microsoft represents now 50%,
> > > > > > > and each month it increases.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I written, Microsoft says that :
> > > > > > > "they are now a major actor of the opensource..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even the ex-General Executive of Microsoft, Steve Ballmer,
> > > > > > > who hated Linux, qualified it as a "cancer ", says now that he
is
> > > > > > > a fan of the Linux system. The time has changed...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The article :
> > > > > > >
www.zdnet.fr/actualites/c-est-qui-le-patron-sur-microsoft-azure-l
> > > > > > >in=
> > >
> > > ux
> > >
> > > > > > >-3 98 74 301.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Linux users of all countries, unite you !" :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, but we are not numerous enough (in the consumer market),
> > > > > > > only 3%.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The desktops of Linux could be a brake to switch to Linux,
> > > > > > > (KDE, Mate, Xfce...)
> > > > > > > but TDE-Trinity desktop is really good and not known enough.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe, the desktop of Windows is the only quality of this
system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For me : Linux and TDE are perfect, the winning cocktail !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Remains the battle materials (install driver) too complex on
> > > > > > > Linux.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Companies as IBM coud help the Linux community ?
> > > > > > > (after the disaster of OS/WARP).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andr=E9
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >--=
> > >
> > > =2D-
> > >
> > > > > > If there is one thing Microsux is good at, is messing everything
> > > > > > up. They WILL mess this up but it will be linux that pays the
> > > > > > price. They will simply blame whatever mess they made on the linux
> > > > > > kernel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for drivers,what do you mean? I've never had to install
drivers.
> > > > > > I HAVE had to install them in Apple and MS. That's a nightmare.
> > > > > > Perhaps I'm mistunderstood (which is likely).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TDE and Linux. That's all for me. Apple and MS users are always
> > > > > > coming to me for help because they can't do it on their systems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need be patient. Linux will emerge as a top desktop OS in a few
> > > > > > short time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kate hops off her soapbox and disappears into the mysterious fog
> > > > > > from whence she came.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS TDE is the chocolate of all GUIs!
> > > > >
> > > > > TDE is the truffles of all GUIs, because it takes somebody to "dig"
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Ooooooh that hurt.
> > >
> > > There are still plenty of metaphors left for fanciful comparisons.=20
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > PS They're not that bad lol.
>
> If you think my metaphors are bad now, don't get me started with mixed
> metaphors, or I will paint you into a corner and throw away the key.
>
> Bill
Kate withdraws in horror.
Hi Guys,
For some reason I am no longer getting any mail from
lists.pearsoncomputing.com
I can see posts on the web OK though.
Thanks:
--
Best Regards:
Baron
> On Saturday 22 September 2018 18:30:20 deloptes wrote:
> > Marvin Jones wrote:
> > > Even though that article is 3 years old, it's something I've
> > > felt for more years than that. =C2=A0 Defense Exhibit A: GIMP
> > I agree in some extent it might be true, but in reality Linux hit the
> > Windows and other servers market heavily. They can not forgive. I also
> > heard there are Linux hater groups inside Microsoft and other corporation.
> > I am unsatisfied with the development of Linux in the past 10yeayrs - loo=
> ks
> > like the new generation has a different point of view on how things should
> > go ... but this is also ok. One gets older anyway
> > regards
>
> Linux represents more than 60% on the professionnal market servers.
> Now, all the super calculators are on Linux.
> Microsoft has lost the professionnal market and the mobile market,
> for Android at 95%. It's why, it hates Linux and the openssource,
> tries, to come back on the cloud, to have now friendly relations
> with the opensource environment, and declares that it is=20
> "the champion of the Opensource" (sic),
> (opensummit exhibition in Paris since more than 5 years,
> it says and writes that).
>
> In the general public market (the people), Linux has a weak part,
> about 3% (Apple 10%, Windows 85%) and I'm asking why ?
>
> Maybe Linux is a little bit too complex, the tying practice, computers=20
> sold with Windows pre-installed, that is a shame,
> and in most of schools, the computers are on Windows (a shame again).
> Microsoft has given a lot of money to the french national education ministr=
> y,
> to keep Windows in the french schools (shame number 3),
> (a child always keeps all his life in memory what he learned young,
> and microsoft knows that very well.
> A practice of microsoft also in european countries and in many ministries...
> They invest money to keep the market (shame number 4).
>
> Android is a Linux system and nobody has difficulties on it,
> said Linus Torvalds.
>
> My daughter has learned computing on Linux,
> now she is 18 years old and continues on Linux Debian with Trinity Desktop.
>
> Anyway, I prefer Linux and will never come back to windows !
>
> Andr=C3=A9
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Anyway, I prefer Linux and will never come back to windows !"
Here here! +1
Kate
I'm trying to get Knode to filter out spam entries from the downloads in the
comp.lang.tcl newsgroup, but I'm finding the info in the Handbook confusing,
and my filters aren't doing anything. My attachments show what I've come up
with so far. Does my Spam Filter need to be above All in the list? The
handbook doesn't talk about this aspect of the configuration at all. If
that's not the problem, what else do I need to look at?
Leslie
Hi all!
I am trying to crate a simple TDE application with tdevelop. Automatic code creation works,"./configure" works, but the final "make" fails from tdevelop with this error:
../libtool: line 1300: func_opt_split: command not found
libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.2.6b Debian-2.2.6b-2ubuntu1, but the
libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.4.6.
libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6b Debian-2.2.6b-2ubuntu1
libtool: and run autoconf again.
Libtool on devuan ascii is 2.4.6-2, so where does that come from .. and how to solve it?
Nik
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Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
When customizing my Kate toolbar I ran afoul of something confusing: there
are two sets of Save and Save As... icons; one set in Main Toolbar <kate> and
the other in Main Toolbar <KatePartView>. I initially used the <kate> ones,
which appeared in the default Toolbar Customization dialog, but was
disconcerted to find that clicking on Save opened the Sessions -> Save
dialog. Eventually I found the ones in <KatePartView>, which save files.
Would it be possible to change at least the text that goes with the Session
Save icons to avoid such confusion?
Leslie
