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Wiki Tips and Tricks (Un-Bogging down an Older system)
by Michael 13 Aug '18

13 Aug '18

Hey All, I've added a couple sections to https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Tips_And_Tricks . Looking for more methods for ‘Un-Bogging down an Older system.’ If you don’t have Wiki access, post to the list and I’ll add it for you (sometime next week...). Best, Michael

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Strange window display
by Marvin Jones 13 Aug '18

13 Aug '18

I am building a new workstation -- running Ubuntu 16.04 -- to replace an old and failing workstation. I used the TDE ISO to get 'things' started. Several of my programs are displaying in a weird window format. (I am not sure if attachments are permitted, but) Attached are a couple of examples Display_OK.png --- is a zenity --info --title=Display_OK --text="Hello World" running on my "failing" workstation. Display_snafu.png --- is the same zenity --info --title=Display_OK --text="Hello World" running on the new workstation. Bluefish_snafu.png --- is bluefish running on the new workstation. I see the same for the AisleRiot solitaire program. No doubt it is something "simple", but nothing comes to mind. Thanks in advance, Jonesy -- <pre> Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK

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After this mornings update, my graphics menu is empty
by Gene Heskett 07 Aug '18

07 Aug '18

Greetings all; Still on wheezy. Sometime in the last 3-4 days, maybe not this mornings update, I needed to get some stuff out of my camera today, which I normally do with digicam. Chaseing the rodent up the menu list popup, I stop at graphics, expecting a lengthy popup. Wait, but nothing. Didn't that use to be kbuildcycoca or similar to restore that stuffs? On further poking at this yellowjackets nest with kmenuedit, I find its all there, but buried an extra level deep, and does not show that extra level depth with a line item in the menu itself. Call up the kmenuedit handbook and look up copy/paste intending to move it all back to where it belongs, but theres no reaction to highlighting the extra level and pressing control+c, then moving back and highlighting the top level menu where it belongs and pressing control+V. No user feedback whatsoever. So I decide to quit that as its obviously broken. BUT! When I quit, it updates everything. So I go back to the graphics line, and voila! Its all back where it belongs. I remember it used to do that, but while you were adjusting stuff so you could see the results in a few seconds. When did it start waiting until you quit? Bad dog, no biscuit. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Thoughts on Devuan 2.0.0 (ASCII) w/ only TDE (-systemd)?
by Michael 06 Aug '18

06 Aug '18

Hi All, Based upon many valuable comments and shared thoughts from this list, I’m find myself in the anti systemd group. With this pretty much being the best, non-biased, comparison of Debian (or any systemd OS) and Devuan (e.g. a non systemd OS) that I found to solidify my opinions on systemd: https://blog.ungleich.ch/en-us/cms/blog/2017/12/10/the-importance-of-devuan/ Do Note: The author does use an [overly] dramatic introduction, so please do read all 878 words of his article. I believe you’ll find the considerations his conclusion brings up well worth the 5-10 minutes of your time it takes to get there. And then Bill commented in another thread: On Sunday 05 August 2018 11:48:18 am William Morder wrote: > I've never been able to do a > successful installation directly from a Devuan disc, but must install > Debian, then Devuan, then TDE, then uninstall LibreOffice and install > OpenOffice, etc. And cannot do net install here, so I need to use a live > disc. If my circumstances were different, then I would probably take a > different approach. Which lead me to this: Linked From: https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros > Exe GNU/Linux > Devuan-based Live Linux Images with Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) > https://sourceforge.net/projects/exegnulinux/ > > Exe GNU/Linux live images are based on Devuan and use Trinity > Desktop Environment (TDE). Versions for i386 and amd64 are available. > see [1] also Bill might this solve your issue(s)? Now finally my question(s)... :) - Is anyone using Devuan 2.0.0 (ASCII) w/ TDE installed? - - If so any issues? Ah, never mind the next Q: “Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian’s, should NOT be used directly.” - Can external (deb?/ppa?) packages be added to Devuan similar to Ubuntu? - - Would you use the corresponding Debian release? Example: > # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list > # This file makes sure that Opera Browser is kept up-to-date > # as part of regular system upgrades > > deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases) - So the only choice for Opera, LibreOffice, etc., is to manually install from a downloaded .deb? Okay, last question... From the standpoint of wanting the leanest system possible with only software I’ve specifically installed: - Would it make the most sense to install the Exe GNU/Linux above, then upgrade in place to Devuan 2 and then TDE R14.0.5? - Or is there a way to install just a bare bones, console only Devuan? I do the second with dedicated servers under CentOS 6 all the time, but it’s the hosting firm that’s doing the initial system build to ‘base’ (and of course each likes to call it a different name, ‘base,’ ‘bare,’ ‘init’), which has much less overhead than the published RH/CentOS ‘minimal’ install profile. So, I’m guessing it can be done, but the Devuan website doesn’t have much beyond how to do a ‘full’ install. If the second method is the way to go, does anyone have a favorite write up on how it’s done with Debian I can use to guide me through doing the same with Devuan? Best and Thanks! Michel [1] Referential Note: https://sourceforge.net/p/exegnulinux/discussion/general/thread/fdff84f2/?l… Mike Hunt - 2018-05-05 Hello, I have been running this distro for a while now, but after some months became puzzled over why I didn't receive any single update. I found out that Devuan's Update and Security repos were not added anywhere; after adding them the updates tickled in. Is this an oversight?

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kcpuload build error
by Kate Draven 04 Aug '18

04 Aug '18

Hi people Trying to build kcpload from srpm but I get this error. automake 1.6.1 is installed. So I'm confused by the error. tde requires automake 1.6.1 or newer make: *** [admin/Makefile.common.10: cvs] Error 1 Building on pclinuxos x86 64. Thanks in advance, Kate

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[trinity-users] Power Management not accessible
by Felix Miata 04 Aug '18

04 Aug '18

This is on Kubuntu 18.04. Everything on the Monitor & Display Power Management tab is grayed out, so power save is stuck at 10 minutes. What package(s) would be missing to cause this? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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network configuration in the trinity menu
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 04 Aug '18

04 Aug '18

Hello, Since I have reinstalled a Debian on another pc, when I click in the Trinity menu, configuration, network, I receive this graphic message : "The configuration can not be loaded, an unexpected error occured". The network works fine, the network card is recognised, on enp0s25. How to obtain an correct answer from the configuration network ? (as before, capacity to configure the network graphically). Thanks, André

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update this morning=347 pkgs from trinity?
by Gene Heskett 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Greetings all; Not really fussing but 340 of them will never be used on this particular machine, Its running linuxcnc, eg no audio except maybe possibly a whispered beep from the computers own speaker. No tv either. But, I'll do this machine next, and it does have a problem, absolutely nothing in the menu's that can play an .mp3. I get the apps gui, and its animated likes its playing the .mp3, but nothing can coax a peep out of my speakers. The only cli app, aplay, reproduced it as 11 minutes of unmodulated pink noise. Does it seem possible to fix this? I had to hunt thru the bin directory's to find a copy of mplayer2 that would play it, sorta. .mp3 are always a little muddy, but this was very poorly done. The music wasn't too bad, but the voices weren't at all understandable. Have I forgotten just how crappy a 160 kilobit .mp3 sounds? A 44.1kilobit recording that alsa had to pump up to 48k, which probably didn't help. The original came from a windows machine that never heard how good an .ogg can sound. Traceing thru the linkage from /usr/bin/mplayer, a link that points back to /etc/alternatives/mplayer, which itself is a link to /usr/bin/mplayer1 which does not exist. Can this be fixed? That does seem to be the real problem, and its not something I can recall piddling with. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Touchscreen and Trinity Desktop
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Hello, Does a touchscreen computer work fine with the Trinity Desktop ? Thanks, regards, André

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Wiki Tips & Tricks
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 31 Jul '18

31 Jul '18

hi all! I've added a small howto to the wiki. it shows how to use filtering of kmail to modify incomming mails and how to decrypt encrypted mails so that they are stored unencrypted. (You might find this idea funny till you loose your gpg keys ...) https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Kmail_Sanitize_and_Decrypt_Mails BTW, is there a way to add an automatic index to the first page of the wiki? using the search function is a bit clumsy ... Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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