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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Leslie Turriff 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

The output is a little different, but the results are just as disappointing. :-( I particularly find the statement, "Please exercise appropriate action." frustrating. Leslie @20:41:42,leslie@pinto ~ $ r14-xdg-update [r14-xdg-update] Performing a profile update for Trinity release R14 XDG compliance. [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] To run this script against a different user directory, or automated [r14-xdg-update] from within another script, pass the directory path as a parameter. [r14-xdg-update] For example: r14-xdg-update /home/user_dir [r14-xdg-update] Use the user home directory and not the profile directory. [r14-xdg-update] User directory: /home/leslie [r14-xdg-update] Profile directory: /home/leslie/.kde [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] The r14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. [r14-xdg-update] The error code is 9. [r14-xdg-update] You are running this script from while a Trinity session is active. Most files can be updated "live" but some cannot, such as kdeglobals. This script might complete successfully and might not. Trinity R14 XDG compliance updates have been interrupted. Without R14 XDG compliance updates, some Trinity apps will fail to function properly. Failures include the following: * Many left-side icon lists will not populate, such as the Panel and Konqueror configuration dialogs. * User-defined keyboard shortcuts fail (khotkeysrc). System defined shortcuts remain functional. * User-defined app preferences fail (profilerc). * Konqueror navigation/sidebar panel won't open. * User-defined konqueror service menus, kicker customization, * konqueror sidebar, Recent Documents list fail. Please exercise appropriate action. Continue? (y/n): y Continuing. [r14-xdg-update] Updating temp file locations. [r14-xdg-update] Renaming the temporary cache directory. [r14-xdg-update] Creating a sym link for the temporary cache directory. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of temporary paths. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of /opt/trinity/share/applications/kde to share/applications/tde. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of kconf to tdeconf. [r14-xdg-update] Updating user-defined keyboard shortcuts in khotkeysrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating some text strings in khotkeysrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating some text strings in kglobalshortcutsrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating user-defined app preferences in profilerc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kicker/panel customizations in kickerrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating system tray icons in systemtray_panelappletrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating katerc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kwriterc. [r14-xdg-update] keditrc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] quantarc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating tdeveloprc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating khelpcenterrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kateui.rc. [r14-xdg-update] katepartui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] kwriteui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] ktexteditor_kdatatool does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] ark_part.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Quick Launch applet. [r14-xdg-update] Quick Launch is not installed. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Quanta Plus plugins.rc. [r14-xdg-update] Quanta Plus plugins.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Autostart files. [r14-xdg-update] Validating KDED services. [r14-xdg-update] Update sessions. [r14-xdg-update] Updating TDENewStuff providers and status. [r14-xdg-update] Renaming some configuration files and directories. [r14-xdg-update] Updating profile *.desktop files. On 2018-04-24 20:39:48 Kate Draven wrote: > OK try it again but as the user, not root. > Let me know how it goes. > > Cheers lad or lass, > > Kate > > > It looks like it worked (see below) but I logged out of the account > > and > > then > > > back in, and got the same thing. :-( > > > > Leslie

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Re: [trinity-users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Kate Draven 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

> Hi, > On one account on my OpenSuSE Leap 42.3 system (the main account, of course), > I'm getting these messages after the login screen and before the desktop > appears: > > 1) > > The R14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > > The script is not successfully updating. > > The script will run with each login until corrected. > > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to > > correct the problem. > > The error code is 9. > > 2) > > Some Trinity profile R14 XDG compliance updates failed. > > Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<filename>kde-' in > > /var/tmp/kdecache-leslie/r14-xdgupdate-validation-test-9.tct. > > 3) > > The R14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > > The script is not successfully updating. > > The script will run with each login until corrected. > > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to > > correct the problem. > > The error code is 9. > > Common failures include file and directory permissions. > > (These messages are displayed using xmessage, and can't be copied/pasted > since the desktop isn't active, so the above is my hand-copied version, which > has all the words, but not necessarily on the same lines.) > > So I looked into the indicated file, and indeed there are a plethora of lines > containing <filename>kde-... (see attached). Apparently there are 'file and > directory permissions' problems /somewhere./ I have looked at the > permissions of all files in ~/.kde and they look okay (but is owner rw- > sufficient?) I looked at the r14-xdg-update script, but the code is opaque > (at least to me). I tried renaming ~/.kde to something else but the problem > persists; also tried removing socket-dir and tmp-dir, but that doesn't help > either. The script contains this unhelpful comment: > > > # This script should be needed to run only once, but corner cases > > # and file/directory permissions could cause incomplete updates. > > # > > # TODO: How to handle environments where files/directories are locked > > # administratively or are owned by root and can't be updated. > > # The nominal validation checks in this script provide some notice > > # but no direct remedy. > > # > > # TODO: How to update profile directories not named $HOME/.trinity and > $TDEHOME > > # is not yet declared when running this script. > > I'm not at all sure where to look and what to look for beyond this. How can > I get past this irritating situation? > Hi Leslie As root, run r14-xdg-update When it asks you to continue say yes by pressing Y. Kate >

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a few barely on-topic questions
by dep 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

greets, everybody . . . i'm trying to set up dnscrypt on my desktop and laptop machines, both of which are running tde atop ubuntu 14.04. (i know. one of these days, when i have a week, i'll move 'em both over to full debian.) the tutorials i've found on this make assumptions as to desktop utilities that i think are not tde. to wit: Open the session and startup manager and add the following to the Application Autostart Menu. sudo dnscrypt-proxy -R opendns -a 127.0.0.2:53 -u dnscrypt what in tde corresponds to the "session and startup manager"? there's a gui for dnscript-proxy, but there's no binary for it and i don't have time to sort out dependencies (up to and including QT5), and given the changes that have come to linux since last i much tinkered with its innards i have no idea where one can even insert dna nameservers anymore -- the old places now all get overwritten at boot. grr. now an actual on-topic question: i remember when i upgraded to 14.04 in late 2016, i was told that there were problems getting tde to work happily atop 16.04. is this still the case, or am i safe un upgrading to a newer ubuntu while keeping tde? thanks! dep Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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Slax with Trinity updated to 9.4
by Slávek Banko 22 Apr '18

22 Apr '18

Hello to everybody, a few days ago, I updated the Slax with Trinity to version 9.4. I hope that I have also solved the problem with persistent changes. The problem was probably in the missing 'changes' folder, which is empty at the beginning. Thank you for your feedback. Cheers -- Slávek

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A small gift for my Devuan friends.
by Jimmy Johnson 22 Apr '18

22 Apr '18

Cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Ceres/Beowulf - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - Intel Core i5-3320M - EXT4 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263

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I'm using Devuan and I hope I'm not alone here.
by Jimmy Johnson 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

Anybody else Systemd-Free on this list? Please tell me I'm not alone. Thanks, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: [Users] Problem installing Trinity Desktop on OpenSuSE 42.3
by Leslie Turriff 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

On 2018-04-20 22:11:52 Felix Miata wrote: > Those that are currently installed and reported as (System Packages) are > packages from Packman that are no longer available. Okay, I found it on rpm.bone.net. I presume from your list that there is no problem with having multiple versions of this library installed? Leslie

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Problem installing Trinity Desktop on OpenSuSE 42.3
by Leslie Turriff 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

I decided to switch back from KDE3 to Trinity, but I ran into a problem while attempting the install. It seems that, while KDE3 uses libIexMath-2_1, Trinity wants libIexMath-2_2. From my install attempt: ========================================================================= My repository list: $ zypper repos --uri Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 97 (raised priority) : 3 repositories 98 (raised priority) : 3 repositories 99 (default priority) : 20 repositories # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | URI ---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | Games | Games | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 2 | Local | Local | Yes | ( p) Yes | Yes | dir:///home/leslie/Downloads/Packages/RPMs/Repository/ 3 | OSC | OSC | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_42.3/ 4 | Trinity14 | Trinity14 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.3/trini… 5 | Trinity14-noarch | Trinity14-noarch | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.3/trini… 6 | http-download.opensuse.org-252ba42b | Emulators:Wine:STABLE | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine:/STABLE/openSUSE_… 7 | http-download.opensuse.org-2674e8c6 | home:Miuku | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Miuku/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 8 | http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed | openSUSE:Leap:42.3:Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Leap:/42.3:/Update/stan… 9 | http-download.opensuse.org-39c8c023 | Publishing | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Publishing/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 10 | http-download.opensuse.org-4784b6cf | devel:libraries:c_c++ | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/libraries:/c_c%2B%2B/openS… 11 | http-download.opensuse.org-85b241d0 | KDE:KDE3 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ 12 | http-download.opensuse.org-92b8fa02 | system:packagemanager | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/system:/packagemanager/openSUSE_L… 13 | http-download.opensuse.org-aff39bb5 | devel:libraries:c_c++ | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/libraries:/c_c%2B%2B/openS… 14 | http-download.opensuse.org-d7c190d1 | systemsmanagement:saltstack | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/systemsmanagement:/saltstack/open… 15 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | No | ---- | ---- | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-S__%5Cx5b 16 | opensuse-guide.org-repo | Libdvdcss Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 17 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 18 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/ 19 | repo-debug-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/ 20 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/ 21 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/ 22 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/ 23 | repo-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/ 24 | repo-source | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/ 25 | repo-source-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/ 26 | repo-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ 27 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/ ========================================================================= Installing Trinity (note, KDE3 was successfully removed): $ zypper install trinity-desktop Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package depen Problem: nothing provides libIexMath-2_2.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4-1.oss423.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install trinity-desktop-14.0.4-1.oss423.noarch Solution 2: break trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4-1.oss423.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): c ========================================================================= What zypper says about libIexMath: $ zypper search --provides libIexMath-2_2 Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Summary | Type ---+-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+-------- i+ | libIexMath-2_2-23 | Exception-based vector/matrix library for OpenEXR | package i+ | libIexMath-2_2-23-debuginfo | Debug information for package libIexMath-2_2-23 | package ========================================================================= So, Trinity wants libIexMath-2_2.so.12, which OpenSuSE thinks is provided by package libIexMath-2_2-23, but apparently that's TOO new. I tried looking on rpmfind for a libIexMath, but found nothing. Can I just add another symbolic link to rename 2_23 to 2_12? Is that likely to work?

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] partitioning - opt & etc
by Kate Draven 16 Apr '18

16 Apr '18

> http://www.linuxbase.org/betaspecs/fhs/fhs/index.html > > "/opt is reserved for the installation of add-on application software > packages. > A package to be installed in /opt must locate its static files in a > separate /opt/<package> or /opt/<provider> directory tree, where <package> > is a name that describes the software package and <provider> is the > provider's LANANA registered name." > > "/usr/lib includes object files and libraries. On some systems, it may > also include internal binaries that are not intended to be executed > directly by users or shell scripts. > Applications may use a single subdirectory under /usr/lib. If an > application uses a subdirectory, all architecture-dependent data > exclusively used by the application must be placed within that > subdirectory." > > As for partitioning your drive, I don't do separate partitions for /etc > /opt /home. It has been decades since I even heard of anyone recommending > doing that. > > -LTH > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 11:18 AM, William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> > wrote: > > > Okay, so new thread! > > > > As I was repartitioning my hard drive, I was trying to find out the > > lowdown on > > this /opt folder. This is a new thing since I have started running > > Trinity; I > > never noticed it before when running Kubuntu. Only after I started running > > the Trinity desktop, that is when I noticed the installation to /opt; and > > only then I noticed that other programs were installing in that folder. > > > > A friend told me that he creates separate partitions for both /opt and > > /etc; > > and then, too, I noticed that the new Icecat browser does something even > > weirder, which is to install in /usr/lib/icecat, rather than (like other > > Mozilla browsers) in /home/<USER>/.mozilla/. > > > > My question is really more or less the same for all these items. I want to > > be > > able, once I have configured them as I wish, just to clone that directory, > > so > > that I don't have to keep reinventing the wheel, over and over again. > > > > When I tried to research the /opt folder, I didn't find out much. If I > > create > > a separate partition, will I be able to leave it untouched like my home > > folder? Will Trinity (and other programs) automatically be installed there? > > > > I suppose could just back it up regularly, then overwrite it once I have > > reinstalled, but I would like to treat it like my /home/<USER>/ folder, and > > leave it intact. > > > > The same with Icecat: it seems to run better than Firefox/Iceweasel, but to > > install everything in /usr/lib/icecat seems very irregular. Is there some > > way > > to get it to install elsewhere? for example, in /opt? > > > > Bill > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@ > > lists.pearsoncomputing.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@lists. > > pearsoncomputing.net > > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users. > > pearsoncomputing.net/ > > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity. > > pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > > > > > > -- > > -Leonard T. Harris > Web Services > Virginia Commonwealth University > http://www.vcu.edu/ > I do recommend using separate partitions for home. The advantage is, if you need to reinstall the os. You need only reformat / (root). /home is left untouched. If you have a computer with a small amount of ram and/or slower CPU, I recommended a swap partition of no more than 2 gigs. Example: swap (sda1) / (root sda2) /home (sda3) There have been occasions when it became necessary to reinstall the OS (Ex. crackmonkey decided to make "room" by logging in a root and deleting stuff). Having the sep /home saved all of the user data and settings etc. My setup I actually have sep hard drives for things like /home /media /software etc. However, if this is a test machine, I wouldn't bother. No point to it. Kate

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Remove session lock?
by Thierry de Coulon 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

I'm trying to setup a machine to autostart at a given time, do record something and then shutdown. Autostarting works with: echo `date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss ' '+%s'` > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm but this seems to work only if I put the computer in suspend mode (if I shutdown the computer does not come back to life). However, when the computer starts from suspend, the session is locked... and I am not there to unlock it. I've searched TDE's control panel without luck. Is there a way to remove the auto-lock feature? Thierry

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