So I took a look at my packages and saw that there were updates to TDE (from
14.0.0 to 14.0.3, openSUSE here).
I first choose "update if newer" for all my packages (in Yast) and ended in a
disaster: apparently minimal X with a terminal, message about wrong
permissions for Xorg.
Setting these permissions right let me start X... but only in KDE 4!
I thought the problem was with openSUSE, so I restored and tried updating only
Trinity. This time the message is:
.servauth.1668 does not exist
cannot open /var/log/xorg.1.log
please consult X.org foundation support
There are plenty of lines with (EE) too
Same correction to Xorg now brings up Icevm.
I'm out of my depth here. I restored again and will make a copy install to
investigate the matter. I understand this may be openSUSE linked but any
suggestion can help.
Not urgent however, 14.0.0 is running very well...
Thierry
I've had some sound problems in MX-15 with VLC and Trinity. The issue
is solved... sort of.
This is a link to the discussion:
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=40197
The short version is:
After I installed KDE Plasma Desktop, the problems cleared up.
Recently, they started again. If I log out of TDE, log into Plasma
Desktop, log out of Plasma, then back into TDE, I have sound again in VLC.
I'm trying to get moneydance to run on on 64-bit Ubuntu 16.04 -- the last
application necessary to permit my wife to move off Windows forever...
(Moneydance is a financial bookkeeping Java program somewhat ala Quicken.)
I've installed the new "amd64" moneydance as instructed by their
website, and I get this when I try to run it:
|$ Moneydance
|[kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing...
.. and I'm dumped back at the command line prompt.
About half the time I do NOT get the "TDECrash" message.
I am simply dumped back at the command line prompt after 5-6 seconds.
I just know if I tell the moneydance support I have a "TDECrash",
they'll ask me to bring it up under Gnome.... _All_ I have is Trinity.
How to debug this "TDECrash"?
Jonesy
I have a specific need for a tailored appliance version of what you are
proposing. It is the bootable client appliance remote-desktop front-end for
an end-user F95-based modeling language
<http://www.metacalculus.com/lens/Spiritext.html> surrounded by xterm menu
scaffolding <http://www.metacalculus.com/lens/MIDUS.html> in Perl. The
remote desktop server is configured as a TDE R14 Ubuntu 14.04 Togglebox VPS
now. It is part of the scaffolding for an end-user development (EUD) type
of workflow called quality assurance and evolution (QAE) to extend a
science exploration modeling technology called MetaCalculus
<http://www.metacalculus.com>, which has been under continuous development
for 50 years.
End users can connect to this remote middleware via NX remote desktops
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology> from the bootable appliances,
similarly configured as TDE-Ubuntu or TDE-PCLinux
<http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/> distros on LiveCD or LIVE USB sticks. NX
remote desktops communicate through FreeNX server apps, and NoMachine
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoMachine>, Remmina
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remmina> or X2GO
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X2Go> client apps.
The front-end PC and Togglebox TDE desktops are preconfigured mirrors that
merge with each other, each having 20 virtual desktops accessed though side
panel pagers (client-right opposing server-left). Taskbar panels similarly
oppose each other (client-top opposing server-bottom). This is the
front-end of a server-based MetaCalculus "automation lab" (AutoLab).
This dual mirrored OS client-server "AutoLab ensemble desktop environment
<http://www.metacalculus.com/doc/MIDUS/AutoLab_Desktops.html>" is designed
for shared menu-guided workflow of an EUD-QAE team on a collection of
virtual desktops, some on client and some on server via several connected
interactive sessions spanning multiple servers, where up to 400 (20 x 20)
sessions may be running simultaneously from a single PC workstation. And
since NX supports desktop sharing, the desktop collection can span teams of
overlapping user workflow sharing of teachers and students.
As you can imagine, this dual OS Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS)
ensemble is designed as an integrated front and middleware interactive
workflow environment, which in turn fronts a background massively
parallel Docker
batch system for cloud supercomputing, using AWS et al
<http://www.metacalculus.com/AutoKey/Linux_VAR_Wholesale_AutoLabs.png>. It
can integrate "super SaaS" collaborative open-source development and K-12
end-user STEM education
<http://www.metacalculus.com/AutoKey/Retail_Linux_USB_Appliances.png>.
The modeling language, an F95 Extension "NeoFortran" supporting the
modeling solver and kernel API of the original mainframe PROSE language
<http://www.metacalculus.com/doc/imgzoom/HolonModelingInPROSE2.png>, can
operate on all three of these computing layers (client PC, Togglebox VPS,
or AWS et al) in various configurations (from client tablets for K-12
students to Togglebox VPS's for developers to AWS Docker jobs for
high-fidelity big-data simulation models globally optimized in massive
parallel jobs).
Since the NeoFortran is an optimization modeling language
<http://www.metacalculus.com/doc/FC/Synthetic_Calculus.pdf> which can
optimize system-dynamics models
<https://www.google.com/search?q=System+Dynamics+Images&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=…>
translated via the XMILE protocol
<http://www.metacalculus.com/AutoKey/MCSD/XMILE_Example.png>; and since
optimization searching is embarrassingly parallel
<http://www.metacalculus.com/doc/DigiCal/MOBHeraJupiter.html>, this
integrated environment can support interactive SERIAL modeling of parallel
optimization processing
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLtZUZybn3uxYIxrmB5If8bNmWxM_ZASbfP…>
in the cloud (similar to web searches), *without any parallel programming*.
Simplification of this parallel processing is what I am working on now.
Although I am a Trinity user, and have been since the fatal KDE4 fork that
set back my downstream development by several years, I don't participate in
this forum much, but I would like to see Trinity win the desktop race. As
you can probably tell, most of the higher infrastructure I have shown in
the links above was accomplished before that plasmoid fork. Ironically KDE
(as one of the original two Linux desktop environments) is still more
generally sanctioned than TDE. But the general trend (Windows style war)
that forking trend was part of has hobbled the whole Linux community in
another pursuit of the Tower of Babel.
I would like to see the Trinity community adopt this LiveCD/USBstick
Linux-boot ensemble as a QAE project and expand its desktop functionality.
There are many TDE improvements I can think of that this QAE effort would
mandate. Not the least would be integrated QA with the NX clients, which
would significantly improve overall Linux interface reliability. This
effort would enable TDE to trump the KDE style leadership with EUD-friendly
practicality. The intent is to adapt more of an EUD "walled garden"
approach, like Apple has achieved with the Mac, in order to broaden Linux
EUD.
In the above links you see evidence of a host of integrated EUD automation
apps designed to lift the OS development focus out of the "Windows style
swamp" that the Linux downstream community has blundered into.
My intent is to emerge new EUD order out of this chaos by giving* the
original computing language new life in the clouds: optimization of
simulation modeling in parallel processing, without parallel programming*.
This can be the killer app to transform the industry the way Fortran did
originally, by exploding diversity in R&D; something IT middlemen cannot
accomplish on their own, because they are not diversified enough to match
the diversity of science, like end-users are. Thus we need to simplify and
generalize advanced Linux EUD as this ensemble aims to do.
Cheers,
Joseph 'Bear' Thames
On Jul 29, 2016 5:24 AM, "Felix Miata" <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> Marvin Jones composed on 2016-07-29 06:11 (UTC-0600):
>
>
> >
> >
> >> I am building a new workstation and I really, Really, REALLY
>> want to fire it up with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Trinity R14.0.3.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >> Ref: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/LiveCDs , has anyone built a
>> Live CD for Xenial yet? Or, is a Live CD under construction? Or,
>> has anyone installed installed TDE 14.0.3 on Ubuntu 16.04 yet and
>> could/would share their experiences if I run into "challenges"
>> during a raw install?
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >> I don't believe I've seen any chatter about Ubuntu 16.04 on this list.
>> And, I really do not want to start out 2-years old with Ubuntu 14.04.
>> "Inertia" usually prevents me from upgrading releases once I have a
>> solid linux workstaion humming along. Hell, my primary workstation is
>> $ cat /etc/lsb-release
>> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
>> DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
>> DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid
>> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS"
>> ... with TDE 3.5.13.3
>
>
> I did minimal 16.04 HTTP minimal installs on two 64 bit machines, then
added 14.03. I recall no trouble with either.
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I've just installed the Trinity LiveCD
tde-ubuntu-14.04-desktop-r14.0.3-amd64.iso
and performed all the updates.
I commented out the entries in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/libreoffice-trinity.list
-and-
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list
and did a sudo do-release-upgrade
to upgrade to xenial (16.04)
and received the following:
|Checking package manager
|Reading package lists... Done
|Building dependency tree
|Reading state information... Done
|Building data structures... Done
|
|Calculating the changes|
|
|Calculating the changes
|
|Could not calculate the upgrade
|
|An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
|
|This can be caused by:
|* Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
|* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
|* Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
|
|If none of this applies, then please report this bug using the
|command 'ubuntu-bug ubuntu-release-upgrader-core' in a terminal.
|
|Restoring original system state
|
|Aborting
I don't see how any of the "This can be caused by" pertain.
I have done this process successfully with the _32bit_ Trinity LiveCD
Where to start?
Jonesy
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Hello, guys!
I want to know if there is some forecast on getting rid of autotools
and using only cmake, mainly because I want to port trinity to NixOS,
and it would be easier taht way.
Thanks in advance!
Torres
Does anyone has succeeded to install "enigmail" with kmail-trinity,
or an application similar to enigmail ?
The objective is to use GPG keys in kmail-trinity.
enigmail works with thunderbird, icedove (Debian),
but not sure with kmail-trinity.
Have a nice day.
André
On 16-07-29 09:40 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> Marvin Jones composed on 2016-07-29 07:44 (UTC-0600):
>
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>
>>> I did minimal 16.04 HTTP minimal installs on two 64 bit machines,
>>> then added 14.03. I recall no trouble with either.
>
>> By "minimal 16.04 HTTP minimal installs" do you mean ala:
>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ?
>
> Technically no, but as a practical matter yes. All my machines are
> multiboot, so I download only the installation kernel and initrd that
> those isos contain, then load them with Grub. From there on it's
> essentially the same road as using such a CD. Doing it my way I find
> it easier to provide specific installation options that I might or
> might not remember that I want to use. e.g.:
>
> vga=791 -- hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false netcfg/disable_dhcp=true
> expert biosdevname=0 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 tasks="standard"
> base-installer/install-recommends=false video=1024x768@60 hostname=myhost
>
>> Can I avoid installing gnome doing it this way (above)?
>
> AFAICT, you can avoid _everything_ related to or depending on Xorg,
> and a lot more.
>
>> Thank you for your quick reply!
>
> Broke house A/C kept me busy off puter until a short time ago.
And what about installing the Ubuntu 14.04 Trinity live CD first and
then apt-get dist-upgrade?
This would upgrade Ubuntu to 16.04 with minimal risk.
I did this to go from 12.04 to 14.04 without any glitch.
Just a hint from my own (successful) experience.
Hi, I use Trinity on Arch Linux. I didn't use a display manager, but
rather started Trinity and I3 through .xinitrc script (I don't know if
it is relevant).
After installing Trinity, some of GTK apps (Midori, dwb) failed to
start in I3, with similar message:
"Could not find mime type application/octet-stream" and segfaut. Didn't
test in Trinity.
First quick fix was to set an environment variable
GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR=/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas
but some other apps (SpaceFM) still segfaulted after many error
messages. Then I disabled /etc/profile.d/trinity.sh and started it only
when starting Trinity, which solved my problem.
I am building a new workstation and I really, Really, REALLY
want to fire it up with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Trinity R14.0.3.
Ref: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/LiveCDs , has anyone built a
Live CD for Xenial yet? Or, is a Live CD under construction? Or,
has anyone installed installed TDE 14.0.3 on Ubuntu 16.04 yet and
could/would share their experiences if I run into "challenges"
during a raw install?
I don't believe I've seen any chatter about Ubuntu 16.04 on this list.
And, I really do not want to start out 2-years old with Ubuntu 14.04.
"Inertia" usually prevents me from upgrading releases once I have a
solid linux workstaion humming along. Hell, my primary workstation is
$ cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS"
... with TDE 3.5.13.3
Thanks for reading this, and thanks for TDE!!
Jonesy
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