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Re: [trinity-users] kmail can't send mail to my mail provider's SMTP server
by Leslie Turriff 25 Jan '17

25 Jan '17

> On Tuesday 24 January 2017 14:02:45 Baron wrote: > > The correct combinations should be: > > > > port 25 + TLS > > port 465 + SSL > > port 587 + TLS > > > > Cheers > > Might also need to set authentication to "Login" Nope; doesn't work with any combination of suggested ports, protocols or authentication methods. I still get the "Unrecognized transport protocol. Unable to send message." message. Judging by the quickness of the message's appearance, I suspect that kmail is not getting to the point of attempting to connect to the server. It almost seems like there is some prerequisite package or service missing, but all of kmail's required libraries and packages are installed. I've attached the list of installed services that are NOT running in hopes that someone will spot something helpful. Leslie -- Best Regards: Baron -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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kmail can't send mail to my mail provider's SMTP server
by Leslie Turriff 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

Since migrating from my dying laptop to my new desktop machine, kmail refuses to send mail to my mail provider's servers, forcing me to use their webmail interface (yuk). I have tinkered with the kmail configuration to no avail, and I've even tried copying the old kmailrc file over the new; but nothing works. Currently, when I attempt to upload mail, I see this message in the status area: "Unrecognized transport protocol. Unable to send message." During my struggles, I also saw, in a separate window, the attached security failure message. I have also attached snapshots of my SMTP configuration, and this link points to setup instructions for my mail provider's SMTP server: http://email.about.com/od/Accessing-Mail-com/f/Mail-com-SMTP-Server-Setting… Neither of these messages gives me enough detail about the problem to know how to proceed. I suspect something is corrupted in the kmail config, but deleting and replacing the Sending entry hasn't helped, nor has replacing the entire file with the working one from the old machine. mail.com has suggested that I change from using pop3 to imap (like that would help), and > Please be advised to correct your server setting by using the information below: > > For IMAP Server: > > Incoming: > [snip] > Outgoing: > Server: smtp.mail.com > Port: 587 > Encryption: STARTTLS > > If "STARTTLS" is not available, please use the protocol "TLS". If this option is also not available simply activate "Encryption". which has not helped. Using kmail's "Check what the server supports" sets TLS and PLAIN. I'm guessing that TLS = STARTTLS, and SSH = Encryption. The config on my old system has SSH and PLAIN set. Neither of these works on my new system. Any suggestions are welcome. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

On Thursday 19 January 2017 01:41:57 you wrote: > Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-01-19 04:24 (UTC+0100): > ... > If you'd like me to look at your diff it needs to be redone after first > sorting your zypper output. > > Barring that I don't have any suggestions other than a reinstallation more > like I do mine. Trying to find and fix the breakage is likely to be more > trouble than starting over, unless a re-diff produces a needed clue. > > 1-Minimal X install rather than true minimal and then adding X as you did. > 2-Before adding X, set solver.onlyRequires = true in /etc/zypp.conf. > 3-Trinity installation will add most of Xorg automatically. I don't > remember which bits it will skip, but they aren't too hard to figure out. > Something akin to the attachment should get most of the Trinity basics and > TDM installed using zypper. Felix, Thanks for your help with this. I followed your suggestions for reinstalling, and (after a struggle to get Network-Manager working) it's working better. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 19 Jan '17

19 Jan '17

On Sunday 15 January 2017 21:32:03 Felix Miata wrote: > Neither you nor I have qtcurve-gtk2 installed, so I don't see how it could > be any issue. I didn't think so. > > On my host gx745 42.2/TDE installation I get the same output as yours. In > your TDE Control Center I see the fonts are some sort of serif selection, > which is not a default I've ever run across. Did you do that purposely > yourself, maybe via a theme selection? Maybe there is a theme compatibility > problem? That is my choice of font; I find it easier to read than a sans-serif font. > > How did you get where you are? Is this a fresh 42.2 installation? Upgrade > from 42.1 or older? What kind of installation? Minimal X? KDE? XFCE? LXQT? > Other? Is or was any of KDE3 installed? All of KDE3 must be eradicated for > TDE to properly function. It is a new installation of OpenSuSE Leap 42.2 on a bare system. I first installed a minimal image, then installed X, then Trinity. I did it that way because I had considerable trouble on my old Leap 42.1 system getting rid of all of the KDE4 and KDE Plasma5 junk that always triy to take over my window-manager and display-manager. > > Maybe there is some other needed QT package missing. Here is a list of QT > packages I have working as expected on gx745: Attached is a comparison of my system (on the left) and your list (on the right): Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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kipi-plugins
by Istvan Gabor 17 Jan '17

17 Jan '17

Hello: Where are the kipi plugins in TDE? I cannot find them. I am on openSUSE 13.2 and Trinity R14.0.4. Thanks, Istvan

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 16 Jan '17

16 Jan '17

On Saturday 14 January 2017 23:31:21 Felix Miata wrote: > Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-01-15 02:10 (UTC+0100): > > > I'm running Trinity R14.0.4 on OpenSuSE Leap 42.2. Trinity Control Center > > reports that gtk-qt-engine is not installed, but YaST reports that it is. > > (See attachments.) This impairs use of some GTK-based applications. I'm > > not sure how to diagnose this further. > Your YaST search term is too limiting. What you need is both of: > > trinity-gtk-qt-engine > trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine > > plus whatever deps. > > Without YaST running, try this from terminal or Konsole: > > zypper se -s gtk | grep qt > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ Okay. I ran zypper and got these results: $ zypper se -s gtk|grep qt | qtcurve-gtk2 | package | 1.8.19~git20150303-2.2 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Oss | qtcurve-gtk2-debuginfo | package | 1.8.19~git20150303-2.2 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Debug i | trinity-gtk-qt-engine | package | 2:0.8-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debuginfo | package | 2:0.8-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debugsource | package | 2:0.8-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 i | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine | package | 2:0.5-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debuginfo | package | 2:0.5-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debugsource | package | 2:0.5-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 zypper says both are installed. Is the presence of qtcurve-gtk2 an issue? Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 15 Jan '17

15 Jan '17

I'm running Trinity R14.0.4 on OpenSuSE Leap 42.2. Trinity Control Center reports that gtk-qt-engine is not installed, but YaST reports that it is. (See attachments.) This impairs use of some GTK-based applications. I'm not sure how to diagnose this further. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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serious mount problem
by Istvan Gabor 14 Jan '17

14 Jan '17

Hello: I have Trinity R14.0.4 on openSUSE Leap 42.2. The desktop has a "My Computer" icon which is a shortcut to media:/. It opens a window that shows a lot of (all?) hard disk volumes/partitions. The problem: Normal user can mount any of these partititions. This is a SERIOUS security flaw. Normal user should not be able to mount internal disk partitions unless the partition is explicitely set so in /etc/fstab using "user" or "users" options. This behavior can lead to unintentional disruption of raid arrays and enable normal users to modify other users' files in other OSs on other partitions. It is also very strange that a user running mount command can not mount those partitions while the desktop system makes it possible. How can this behavior be changed so that normal could not mount other partitions? I would like to report this as a bug, how can I? Thanks, Istvan

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Missing entry in the Trinity Desktop menu
by Leslie Turriff 13 Jan '17

13 Jan '17

On Thursday 12 January 2017 05:16:33 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 12 January 2017 07:50:23 deloptes wrote: > > Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > Is anyone else seeing > > > this > > > > On debian jessie I have the item in the menu. > > I too have it in Debian Jessie. Apparently there was something hinky about my X11 setup; the missing fields reappeared after I rebooted my system. (I thought I had done that, but apparently not.) > > Could you possibly post in plain text, please, Leslie? HTML is very > difficult to read. I don't usually bother. Sorry. For some reason kmail has been unable to send mail to smtp.mail.com, though it can retrieve mail from pop3.mail.com; so I have been using the mail.com web interface until that is resolved. And now I have figured out how to make it send text format. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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[trinity-users] 14.0.4 titlebar icon/button sizes too small
by Felix Miata 12 Jan '17

12 Jan '17

What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried: 1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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