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Speil cheekers?
by Gene Heskett 25 Oct '15

25 Oct '15

Greetings all; How hard would it be to enable the kmail spell checker to actually save to disk that which you click on the "add to dictionary" button. All it can do is save it in memory, but if you then recheck the same msg, you have to add those same words again. I don't see a way to add a "personal" file that would enable this. So is it possible? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Master server status
by Timothy Pearson 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, The TDE master server has been repaired and all services should be functioning normally again. Thank you to all who donated to help defray the cost of the new CPU! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYf/1kACgkQLaxZSoRZrGFmkQDeM+fiuyh+U+KMDBqL33NG+og0 xHNrc2kwKBAaygDePQ0JhfIHZEIfbkW5sPaSt4UIZVHD8WR3FVHT0Q== =1Oqy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kmail distortion of headings from recent Thunderbird messages.
by Marco 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Hi all, When reading messages in Kmail sent to me by (2) correspondents using Thunderbird (v38), the FROM and the TO fields of the messages are not correctly represented: the French accents in the sender's real name and in the real names in the recipient list are distorted. For example, René becomes Renc3a9. This is quite annoying when I want to reply to a list with many names with French accents. This problem does not apply to the body of message, where all accents are ok. I noticed that the problem started on August 30 where i also noticed the two correspondents upgraded to version 38 of Thunderbird for windoze. Earlier messages are ok. I have been using Kmail on my desktop computer for many years without any problems. It is the current version (1.9.10) supplied by Trinity. I use Ubuntu Precise with Trinity R 14.0.2. I tried changing character settings in 'appearance' within Kmail preferences in various combinations, with utf-8 and iso-8859-1 to no avail. Is this something that I need to set correctly in Kmail or something wrong with Tbird? My wife can read those same headings fine on her laptop using Tbird. Any ideas? Marco

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Master server updates
by Timothy Pearson 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, The master server redirection system (ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net) has been updated to remove an unnecessary client redirection. This means those of you still using the master server instead of Slavek's redirector will see faster "apt-get update" execution due to the number of required DNS lookups dropping by 1/3. Also, this message is a reminder that the master server will be going down for maintenance to install the replacement CPU tomorrow. You can follow along on the Service Alerts page (when available) here: https://trinitydesktop.org/servicealerts/ Thank you all for your financial assistance and patience! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYe8C8ACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGatwDdFSY6yICtJoqiTAK3MfvXp0ak /ENPkMRtJY4QuwDgvLDjRfjjXHB2cP9Xy23mlc9Nn1dE0+S+iMA56Q== =AMb1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Urgent money needed
by Lisi Reisz 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

I am probably not the best person to say this in terms of anyone listening, but perhaps the best person in view of being the one who was complaining. TDE is in urgent need of $1000.00 to keep the master server running. Its CPU is failing/has failed. I don't know the details, but Tim would no doubt supply them. If 20 people each gave £50 etc., but we all know that they won't. I can't say "it is just the cost of $WHATEVER" because i don't know US prices. For me it is the train ticket to London that I didn't have to buy at the end of September because the hospital cancelled the appointment. Come on! What have you not had to pay for/could easily forego? Do you really need two cups of coffee every morning, or a tub of icecream for lunch every day?? Perhaps now is the time to give up cigarettes? ;-) TDE can't run without servers. Of course, if someone has a top-notch server he or she is dying to donate, I am sure that Tim wouldn't say no. ;-) Lisi

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desktop-base-trinity
by Michael . 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

What is the difference between desktop-base (Debian's deb) and desktop-base-trinity (Trinity's deb). I did a Trinity install, over and above another DE, for a friend the other day so he could see what Trinity was and I noticed it wanted to remove desktop-base and install desktop-base-trinity instead. I didn't allow it to install desktop-base trinity and everything is working fine so I was wondering what is the need for it. Cheers. Michael.

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cheese like program in TDE?
by Gene Heskett 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

Greetings all; I just bought some webcams, and the std viewer for a webcam has been cheese for quite a while now. But its not part of TDE, and when I had apt-get install it, it pulled in about 23 more megabytes worth of dependencies. Didn't help, it still segfaults. So I hauled the camera to one of my milling machines, also running wheezy, installed cheese, and it Just Worked(TM). But here? No way: ===================== gene@coyote:~/Pictures/pix$ cheese (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkGrid to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel ** (cheese:10552): CRITICAL **: cheese_camera_device_get_uuid: assertion `CHEESE_IS_CAMERA_DEVICE (device)' failed Segmentation fault ======================== Does anyone know of a TDE viewer that just works for a webcam? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Master server status
by Timothy Pearson 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, As Lisi alluded to earlier the TDE master server is continuing to experience issues causing sporadic service outages. I believe I have traced this fault to a defective CPU package; this is the first time in well over a decade that I have actually seen a defective CPU, but the certainty of the diagnosis has grown sufficiently that I have ordered a replacement. I have dsabled some secondary services to try to reduce overall system load in the hopes that this will stabilize the remaining services until the replacement parts arrive. You can follow along on the status of the repairs at this page (when available): https://trinitydesktop.org/servicealerts/ Technical details: The TDE project makes heavy use of a rather beefy server containing G34 Opteron processors (i.e. in the $1,000 USD range _per CPU package_). I started to see various MCEs (not related to DRAM) and, much more commonly, lockups several weeks ago but assumed it was a power stability issue. Unfortunately, even after swapping the PSUs the lockups are obviously continuing, and becoming more frequent. My best guess is that this particular processor has developed a somewhat unstable L2 / L3 cache; the MCEs that I did log were similar to this: [Hardware Error]: MC2 Error: VB Data ECC or parity error. [Hardware Error]: Error Status: Corrected error, no action required. [Hardware Error]: CPU:6 (15:2:0) MC2_STATUS[Over|CE|MiscV|-|-|-|-|CECC]: [Hardware Error]: cache level: L2, tx: DATA, mem-tx: EV While it would be possible to completely shut down QuickBuild (thus taking much of the load off of the affected servers) I believe this would be detrimental to the long term existence of the project. In particular, we would lose all tinderboxing; I would effectively need to pick a specific version of Debian, make sure that a specific release of TDE works on that, and ignore all the rest. Also, the release interval would jump back up into the multi-year range due to the difficulty involved in manually assembling all of the requisite repository files. There are other somewhat obvious drawbacks as well, but just those two alone would probably kill the project. I also don't reasonably see how QuickBuild's services can be replaced by anything free in the cloud. The built TDE packages occupy several hundred gigabytes of disk space, and can easily hog dozens of build machines on multiple architectures. A long time ago (back when TDE only supported a couple of Ubuntu versions) I used the free Launchpad build service, but this project rapidly outgrew that service. It rather impedes development to have your rebuild take months to work through the public build queue... So, to summarize: QuickBuild requires powerful servers, lots of power, and loads of disk space. It is also somewhat essential to TDE's somewhat rapid release schedule, serving as a QA check and release management platform. Unfortunately that means the annual cost to run the TDE services is very high, and I don't always have the funding to eliminate all sources of downtime. Thank you to those few that have donated over the years; it has helped in a small way to keep TDE alive. As Lisi said, if everyone donated annually a relatively small amount there would be no real financial concerns and both I and Slavek would have more time to actually work on the reason we are all here -- TDE itself! Thank you, Timothy Pearson Trinity Desktop Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYWmYIACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGJbQDcC8KVpjjkTdNHpcq/KgrzkmsH si5WcIKxViAu6gDfXM2h1ufBHtIlp3Yi7jH7xISsY0CFQhDpMTw2NA== =3ddI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Slávek's repository
by Lisi Reisz 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

I have just tried to install TDE, but have been told that Slávek's repository is not accessible. ??? I'll try Tim's for now. Lisi

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kmail, imap, ssl issue
by Greg Madden 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Trying to setup a clients new email. The new client is imap, user/passwd and ssl port 993 recieving and 465 sending mails. The sending works fine, the receiving says it is checking account xxx for new mail but that is far as it goes. No error messages popup. Never used ssl/tls before do not know where to look for error mressages. Searched the trinity user archives, not much mention of imap/ssl. Thanks -- Greg M

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