There's one more thing with today's desktop environments.
I'm working mostly with files. The workflow is to make file in one
program, process in another, correct in third one, manage files in
Konqueror, use files in one more program, batch- process in terminal,
etc. In Trinity the most frequently used tasks can be configured to
toolbar buttons or some actions (e.g. click-to-rename which is
unfortunately not consistent in different views like in MSWin).
KDE4 or Gnome 3 or many other desktops are focused on working not with
files, but with programs. This is a small change in ergonomy, but has
significant consequences. Most customization does not exist in this
model and most tasks are executed in single program, so changing active
programs (famous Alt-tab) occurs rarely. It is good if someone uses
only web browser and mail client, but fails when files are processed.
With every new version of operating systems and tablet computing
gaining popularity, this model slowly goes back to single-tasking model.
It looks similar to these web browsers which dropped
favourites/bookmarks for 3x3 dial scrren to bind users to few
commercial internet content providers (saying "website" for these sites
is not much appropriate today).
MCbx
Michele Calgaro <<a href="/?cmd=compose&to=michele.calgaro@yahoo.it">michele.calgaro@yahoo.it</a>> napisał(a):
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Hi all again,
Still looking into my "reply and quote" problem:
These are the headers from a mail that does *not* quote when I hit reply:
Return-path: <xxxxxxxx(a)telenet.be>
Envelope-to: tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch
Delivery-date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:54:14 +0200
Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.53]:58076)
by io.tizoo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82)
(envelope-from <xxxxxxxxxr(a)telenet.be>)
id 1XGp76-0004BO-Ea
for tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:54:13 +0200
Received: from WernerW7 ([84.192.215.192])
by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp
id dQto1o00s49eYV801QtoHp; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:54:10 +0200
From: "mynameisnobody" <xxxxxxxxx(a)telenet.be>
To: "Thierry de Coulon" <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
References:
In-Reply-To:
Subject: FW: Teilnahme Konferenz Antwerpen
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:53:47 +0200
Message-ID:
<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAApH80/Mp7hJriG70cuuLFHCgAAAEAAAACzq+e1WxSpEstgqfGp6heYBAAAAAA==(a)telenet.be>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0065_01CFB574.0E722870"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
Thread-Index: Ac+1YqK0dzhGgcPBToyNJJfOa/I3HwAAISKQ
Content-Language: nl-be
Disposition-Notification-To: "mynameisnobody" <xxxxxxxx(a)telenet.be>
Status: R
X-Status: NT
X-KMail-EncryptionState:
X-KMail-SignatureState:
X-KMail-MDN-Sent:
Hallo Thierry,
<message>
These are the headers of a test mail I sent to myself and that quotes
correctly:
Return-path: <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on haswell.shadok.ch
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,
TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=ham version=3.3.2
Envelope-to: tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch
Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:35 +0200
Received: from 77-56-251-115.dclient.hispeed.ch ([77.56.251.115]:39307
helo=haswell.shadok.ch)
by io.tizoo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256)
(Exim 4.82)
(envelope-from <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>)
id 1XH93H-00073L-2R
for tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:35 +0200
From: Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
Reply-To: tcoulon@decoulon'ch
To: tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch
Subject: bla bla blup
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:33 +0200
User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748)
X-Face: (J=[aQ(/Y-W'9OR]+q#a?vQ?E\UK(3Y)W,o(G!z9xuF=T]31}l22oDzB<cFktdE;
(=?utf-8?q?jpAQ0=0A=09=7EiQ=3D?=,mFgX-(a)FHi2z.6Q2l<N3,XS&k'<},q;#,UYo%6F
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain;
charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-Id: <201408121211.33811.tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
X-UID:
Status: R
X-Status: NC
X-KMail-EncryptionState:
X-KMail-SignatureState:
X-KMail-MDN-Sent:
THis is a try
The only real difference I see is in "Message-Id" (and of course the fact that
one message was sent by outlook).
What can explain the difference in quoting?
The first message had attachments, my test message not, but that should not
make a difference?
Thierry
Hello list,
I'm back with another puzzle. This time about kmail (the version in 3.5.13.2).
I recently changed my ISP and the new one has an option to filter the mails
with spamassassin. I am starting to receive more mails that spamassassin
forwards with this header:
***************************
X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "<my isp>", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email. If you have any questions, see
root\@localhost for details.
***************************
These mails are *not* spam but probably some sort of html/mixed html messages.
The good point is that the mail is turned into plain text, the problem is
that such mails don't quote the message when replying......
As far as I can say this only happens with such fowareded mails. I'm
considering turning off that spam filter (I have spamassassin running localy
and I use an external service), but maybe somone understanding kmails
internals better than me can give an advice?
Regards,
Thierry
Hi everyone,
thanks to Tim's hard work on the integration of TDE with LibreOffice I have on
my small builder setup another apt source: libreoffice-tde-sb. Source contains
only packages for Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu Trusty. Both for amd64 and i386.
Contrary to official packages on the build-farm, there are two differences:
1) For Debian Wheezy was used as the source LibreOffice 4.2.5 from
wheezy-backports. For Ubuntu Trusty was used LibreOffice 4.2.4 from
trusty-updates. As a result, needs no additional packages.
2) Both are built to support TDE in addition to any existing ones -
including support for KDE4.
To install my gpg key:
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-key A04BE668
Apt source for Debian Wheezy:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb wheezy-backports main
Apt source for Ubuntu Trusty:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb trusty main
Perhaps it will be helpful for you :)
--
Slavek
Hello all,
I've switched to openSUSE (13.1) because I had some trouble with Wheezy
missing some needed "recent" libraries (plus LibreOffice on Debian does not
give me previews of the pictures I want to import, somehow it does on SuSE).
Everything is fine with 3.5.13.2 but have one (unimportant) bother that
puzzles me:
On Wheezy, when I copy files with Konqueror, I get a nice progress bar.
On SuSE, I get a "text box" that sequencially lists the files being copied but
there is no information about progress - neither graphic nor text.
As I said I can live with that, but I wondered if that might be a bug in the
openSUSE build, or more probably I'm missing something?
Have a nice day,
Thierry
I get a lot of boot messages of the form:
udevd[1465]: failed to
execute '/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event' 'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event':
No such file or directory
The standard fix from
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/01/msg00857.html
is
Remove the hal package and you should be fine.
HOWEVER:
apt-get remove hal
gives:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
hal hal-trinity kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity kdebase-trinity
ksmserver-trinity
And I think ksmserver-trinity is required
( I use xinit /opt/trinity/bin/startkde to start Trinity )
So does Trinity actually use HAL, or can I just get rid of it?
cheers
ant
--
Sent from my linux system running Debian 7, desktop trinity-KDE.
This email is plain text, not HTML. Any attachments are either .jpeg or .pdf
Dear all,
I am updating the KNewsTicker websites list, removing all inactive sites.
If you would like some new sites to be added as default, please send your requests to this list.
Cheers
Michele
Hi guys,
after a successful move I have finally setup my server again. It
should be available immediately or dns might take a while for your dns
server to propagate
http://trinity.ceux.org/
Calvin
Hi everybody,
just thought about giving an update of where we are with the development of v14.0.0.
Back in March we made a list of bugs to fix before the next release. Such list was made up of a total of 115 bugs (31 of which "conditional" ones).
The list has grown a little bit to a total of 123 bugs and so far we have solved 78 of them (approx 63%), plus some more (approx 10) that we didn't add to the list even if they should have been.
It's taking longer than expected, but we all have just spare time for TDE and we are trying our best. Even if slowly, we are step-by-step edging towards finalizing v14.0.0.
How long more will it take? Can't give a precise answer, but based on the experience so far I would say between 3 to 5 months to get to the bottom of that list and be ready for the first release candidate.
As usual, you can keep up with the current development status either:
- on bugszilla bug 2014 (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2014)
- or on the TDE etherpad (http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/39)
Cheers
Michele
