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[trinity-users] Squeeze/TDE3.5.13 Live CD
by David Hare 05 Dec '11

05 Dec '11

There is an updated exelinux_squeeze_trinity iso (661 MB) http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/trinity/exelinux_squeeze_trinity_… The associated website is also updated http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/ It is produced from a clean debbootstrap, is current Squeeze with all security updates and TDE 3.5.13 The installer and other custom scripts are updated also. It's intended to keep it GPL and below 700MB As a whole load of gnome libs to sack were found, French and German language support for TDE are now included, in addition to English and Spanish. It is *not* an "official" TDE build and is supported by nobody but me, if even that! It's untested beyond that it boots and installs here, so testers appreciated. Regards, David

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Upgrading TDE 3.5.13 Maverick to Natty
by stencil 04 Dec '11

04 Dec '11

The Trinity LiveCD worked well to install TDE 3.5.13 with Kubuntu Maverick, on a fresh system. Now I wish to upgrade to Trinity with Natty and I'm unsure of the procedure. Should I (add) or (substitute) the four 'Natty' lines to sources.list? Or should I just run <sudo apt-get dist-upgrade> using the Maverick-configured sources.list? Or have I missed (the, some) point? gds, stencil

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Kopete IRC plugin not working on Debian
by Jorge Gonçalves 04 Dec '11

04 Dec '11

Hi, anyone has a solution for the IRC plugin not working in TDE 3.5.13 Debian squeeze?? Thanks!

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Brightness
by Jan Litwiński 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

On my laptop Lenovo g550 brightness control via kpowersave set active scheme and via laptop Fn key doesn't work.It works in gnome 3 and kde4. -- Jan Litwiński http://janek.wroc.prv.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside

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Trinity Desktop Environment Feedback
by Sashko - 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

Hello Timothy, I just want to say that you are doing a marvelous job with TDE. Words cannot express how happy I am with TDE. Basically, TDE is a dream come true. I don't know whether you get any feedback or not but as a developer I know that feedback is extremely important - it motivates developers do more coding and improve their work! I had been looking for a proper Linux Desktop since the time I first started experimenting with Linux - 1998. Every single DE until TDE came out has/had been a major disappointment. It has been a major disappointment because basic concepts of desktop computing such as Drag&Drop, Search, Copy/Paste, Print Screen etc have not been met and are not working and this happens right now with some well known DEs with their latest releases... TDE however is addressing all of these concepts and goes way beyond. TDE meets and it well exceeds the basic concepts of desktop computing! What I like about TDE? - I can drop any icon/shortcut to the panel - be it a folder, shortcut, image or a URL from any window regardless what toolkit it is using (I have tried both GTK and QT)! I can even drag browser URLs into the panel! The basic concepts of desktop computing!! This is like Windows!! Well done!! - When I drag the object/icon on the panel (rearranging icons), the space between the icons is evenly adjusted automatically between the shortcuts/icons! This is simply awesome!! The basic concepts of desktop computing!! Well done!!! Basic concepts of desktop computing are actually working in TDE! Well done!! - The Search field on the top right of KNQ is awesome! Well done!! It works better than Windows and it is very quick!! - Find Files and Folders dialog - Well done!! Well done!!! - The Search in the T menu - awesome work!! Well done! (I just wish it could be moved to the bottom but no biggie) - Well done!! - Print Screen!! Well done!! It works from any app from any widget regardless which widget has the focus! I have seen poor attempts in the past where some DEs try to make Print Screen work like in Windows but the funny thing is it only works when the desktop itself is focused. Once it looses the focus it does not work. The PRNT SCR stroke is not captured. Yours however is done the right way! It seems to bypass the focused widget ignoring its keystroke events and it travels all the way and it captures the screenshot. Again, basics of desktop computing. *Well Done!!!* - Mounted drive icons on the desktop - the tooltip and the property dialog box show the device they are pointing to - e.g: /dev/sdb2 - Well done! Marvelous job!! With other DEs I have to use long-cuts to find out what/where everything is! Again, well done!!! - Your Quick Launch applet on the panel - again, it works pretty much like the Windows one with full Drag&Drop support from any window and spaces between icons are automatically and evenly adjusted - Well done!!! - Right click context menus from the T menu (Copy To Run Dialog, Edit Menu Entry etc) - Absolutely marvelous!! I just donated to show my support. Please continue the excellent work! Words cannot express the high quality of your work. I can see true professionalism and potential! Well done!! Any way, please keep up the current path and do not make the same mistake other teams have done. The basics of desktop computing in other DEs are not working and they give us these flashy and useless special effects instead! Usability first, special effects second, not the otherway around! Ignore negative comments and trolls - there aren't any negatives in TDE. Any negative comments are made by people that don't understand the basic concepts of desktop computing. However, You do! TDE does, you've done it right, You are on the right path. Keep up! TDE has done it right! (I think based on my feedback, you can tell I have been a Windows user but with TDE, *literally*, that is changing. Again, awesome work, keep up the good work. I am a hobby developer BCB, VC++, AMX, I might even contribute with code (C++ here) in the future). P.S. You need to do something about your site - it looks a little bit plain!! My colleague at work said, "before I start using a product, I first look at their web site and if it doesn't look professional...etc etc". Either way I explained to him that "TDE is an exception" and I encourage him try it. Don't make the site bloated, just make it less plain. P.S. I introduce TDE to people at work, showing them screenshots and pointing them at the download URL. Everyone of us should all do the same and I encourage every single one of us to donate and support this project. Cheers

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DVD Release
by Raevyn Vieria-Madison 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

Is there a time frame for when the new Trinity DVD enterprise will be out?

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Kpowersave
by Jan Litwiński 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Sometimes when I suspend to RAM I got this error: An unknown error occurred while Suspend to RAM. The errorcode is: '128' Trinity on Fedora 16 -- Jan Litwiński http://janek.wroc.prv.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside

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issues after migrating KDE3 -> trinity
by Ilya Dogolazky 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Hi again ! After I copied my .kde directory to .trinity, my old KDE3 settings are back. But some issues remain. here is the list of issues I've seen so far (any help is very welcome!) in none particular order. The most important items below are: 2, 6.2, 6.3, 8, 11 and of course 1 ;) 1. I got a message "KFish applet can't be installed on the panel", and no fish is visible :-( 2. The 'konsole' application (KDE's xterm replacement) can't be started: ilya@kalma:~$ which konsole /opt/trinity/bin/konsole ilya@kalma:~$ konsole konsole: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv 3. I have two panels, one for buttons, keyes, kfish and menus; and the second one for tasks. This second one was configured in KDE to be two items high, but now its height is just one item ("item" in my definition is a rectangle representing a single task). Fixed it manually by setting "Size" from "Default" to "Custom 52 pixels" 4. There are some KDE4 artifacts: 4.1 A PSI program successfully attached to the panel, but the drop down menus look like those in KDE4 and the UI of the psi program itself looks like KDE4. I would like to know if it's the expected behavior. Basicaly I have nothing against it (ok, it's ugly, but I can live with it), but it's better to know for sure. 4.2 An application called "Nepomuk Strigi File Indexing" (which I never seen before) is started, attached to the panel and doing some massive input/output. The UI looks like KDE4. I would like to know how to get rid of it. 5. Background pictures disappeared, only one of six is visible (I'm afraid they were original KDE3 pictures and just gone during the system update) 6. Massive screen saver issues: 6.1 My previously used screen saver (displaying failure messages from different operation systems) disappeared. 6.2 In the unlock dialog there is no keyboard layout button. This is a really critical issue: once locked with Russian layout I can't switch to a Latin one, thus I can't enter the password and unlock 6.3 When screen saver is starting only one physical display (out of two) is cleaned, so everyone can read information on the secondary display (which is in kinda "read-only" mode, so no use input possible). This is a pretty heavy issue as well. 7. Trinity KDM is not working (probably crashing, but I've not investigated much), and "trinity" is not appearing in the default KDM window manager selection list. So I've stopped display manager, created a simple .xinitrc script ("exec /opt/trinity/bin/startkde 2>trinity.stderr >trinity.stdout") and now starting trinity with "startx" command. 8. The output of .xinitrc contains couple of "symbol lookup error:" lines: 8.1 for /opt/trinity/bin/kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject21objectTreesListObjectEv 8.2 konsole: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv (see issue 2 above). 8.3 See item 11 below. 9. Very annoying issue, but I've seen it in KDE3 already: while moving a window inside of secondary physical monitor, it's not possible to move it to the upper area: window manager only allows to keep it *below* the panel (but the panel is occupying only the primary monitor, thus the piece of the secondary monitor is not used by application windows. There is a work around: maximize window in question, then it's taking the whole secondary monitor. 10. Fuzzy clock in the bottom panel doesn't use the font it was using in KDE. I tried to fix it, something very bad happened, see item 11. By the way: how can I restore the panels without logging off and on again? 11. After right-clicking on the clock in the bottom panel and selecting "configure clock" BOTH panels (top and bottom) disappeared. The last suspicious message in trinity.stderr is: kicker [kdeinit]: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv Cheers, Ilya Dogolazky

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desktop settings
by Ilya Dogolazky 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Hi ! I've installed trinity today for the first time. Until yesterday I used an old installation of KDE 3.5 (debian, probably lenny; but today it's squeeze with some wheezy elements). I have couple of questions about the KDE -> Trinity transition and the first one is: Is there an way to import as many settings as possible from my old KDE settings directory? Thanks ! -- Ilya Dogolazky

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KMail
by Lisi Reisz 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

I am still having problems getting KMail to use my data from before my desktop died. I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder ~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my folders and emails at least are there. But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them. This is the method I have always used before, that has always worked before. I am desperate to be able to use KMail again, but daren't just set it up because I am then going to be faced with losing everything that I do now, if I ever succeed in restoring the stuff from the past. I thought of purging and reinstalling KMail and starting again, but that would remove 383 packages, and I am somewhat chary therefore of doing it. ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail in the new set-up has: file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/drafts file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.drafts.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.drafts.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/outbox file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.outbox.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.outbox.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.sent-mail.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.sent-mail.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/templates file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.templates.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.templates.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/trash file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.index.ids There is now no error message about indices, but it looks to me as though this directory is at the root of the problem. I have renamed it and started KMail, and it just regenerates it the same, and still doesn't use the available data, but kmail gives: file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/dimap file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/elizabeth.reisz:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/kmmainwin.rc file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi%40$name.myzen.co.uk:%40mailhost.zen.co.uk:110 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.reisz%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.reisz:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.t155:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail.old file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/search Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I persuade KMail to use it? Lisi

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