5 Nov
2011
5 Nov
'11
8:21 a.m.
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was
working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the
nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting,
KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity
made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit
failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a
custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it
seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged 3.5.13 and
re-installed 3.5.12.
In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install.
Peace,
Greg
5 Nov
5 Nov
10:57 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was
working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the
nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting,
KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity
made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit
failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a
custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it
seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
I tried a fresh install on Ubuntu 10.04, on a machine with a somewhat
old Nvidia 7300 (and using the nightly builds). There was no real
problem (seems pulse audio is a little itchy) and setting up the dual
monitors from the settings panel was a piece of cake.
So i could not say of your problems are linked to the upgrade, your
hardware, It's not clear for me either what exactly you did, as you
say "Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login
screen". But if you removed desktop-base-trinity I'am not really
surprised that "TDE apps worked" as it seems you had just removed the
base they needed.
Thierry
7:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
On Saturday 05 November 2011 2:57:04 am Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Madden
<gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
Thanks for the replies..everyone.
This is my workstation for my business, and has benn 'upgraded' through several
Debian releases, also the previous TDE releases. The Debian component is current
with all security updates. I get a little anxious when things do not go well :-)
The installation instructions do not mention upgrading, but it has not been an
issue before.
As far as mixing versions of TDE, aside from the fact upgrades, in my thinking,
take care of this. I did purge all of TDE, all versions, and did my best to get
all the libs, which left me with my old Windowmaker install, minus TDE appps,
then tried an 'install' of TDE 3.5.13, twice, with same results. Using the same
purge and install, re-installed TDE 3.5.12, works fine.
Not sure what exactly 'desktop-base-trinity' does, but one feature is the
background image for the login screen, TDE apps work without it in the past.
One thing I did not try, thanks for pointing this out, I use a Nvidia Quadro video
card and use the Nvidia proprietary drive, the FOSS driver doesn't work for my
setup. To be complete i should have re-installed the driver.
I have a spare partition on my boot drive, I am going to do a fresh install so I
have a failsafe work environment, then can try 'upgrading' again paying
attention to the video driver.
Thanks
--
Peace,
Greg
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze
host, it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze
from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon
starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing
desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in
I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I
have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases
of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
I tried a fresh install on Ubuntu 10.04, on a machine with a somewhat
old Nvidia 7300 (and using the nightly builds). There was no real
problem (seems pulse audio is a little itchy) and setting up the dual
monitors from the settings panel was a piece of cake.
So i could not say of your problems are linked to the upgrade, your
hardware, It's not clear for me either what exactly you did, as you
say "Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login
screen". But if you removed desktop-base-trinity I'am not really
surprised that "TDE apps worked" as it seems you had just removed the
base they needed.
Thierry 
7:33 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
Not sure what exactly 'desktop-base-trinity'
does, but one feature is the
background image for the login screen, TDE apps work without it in the
past.
One thing I did not try, thanks for pointing this out, I use a Nvidia
Quadro video card and use the Nvidia proprietary drive, the FOSS driver
doesn't work for my setup. To be complete i should have re-installed the
driver.
I have a spare partition on my boot drive, I am going to do a fresh install
so I have a failsafe work environment, then can try 'upgrading' again
paying attention to the video driver.
Thanks
I've Nvidia proprietary drivers, too, version 270.41.06. This is a list of TDE
packages on my system, maybe it helps.
ark-trinity arts-trinity desktop-base-trinity hal-trinity k3b-data-trinity
k3b-trinity k9copy-trinity kaddressbook-trinity kappfinder-trinity
kate-plugins-trinity kate-trinity kcalc-trinity kcontrol-trinity
kde-core-trinity kde-i18n-de-trinity kdeartwork-emoticons-trinity
kdeartwork-misc-trinity kdeartwork-style-trinity
kdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity kdeartwork-theme-window-trinity
kdeartwork-trinity kdebase-data-trinity kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity
kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity kdebase-trinity kdebase-trinity-bin
kdelibs-data-trinity kdelibs-trinity kdelibs4c2a-trinity
kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data-trinity kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins-trinity
kdemultimedia-kio-plugins-trinity kdenetwork-kfile-plugins-trinity
kdepasswd-trinity kdepim-kio-plugins-trinity kdepim-kresources-trinity
kdeprint-trinity kdesktop-trinity kdesvn-kio-plugins-trinity kdesvn-trinity
kdewallpapers-trinity kdm-trinity kdmtheme-trinity kdvi-trinity kfind-trinity
kghostview-trinity khelpcenter-trinity khexedit-trinity
kicker-applets-trinity kicker-trinity kile-trinity kile-trinity-i18n-de
kio-locate-trinity kio-umountwrapper-trinity klipper-trinity kmail-trinity
kmenuedit-trinity kmix-trinity knotes-trinity kompare-trinity
konq-plugins-trinity konqueror-nsplugins-trinity konqueror-trinity
konsole-trinity konversation-trinity kpager-trinity kpdf-trinity
kpersonalizer-trinity kregexpeditor-trinity kscreensaver-trinity
kscreensaver-xsavers-trinity ksmserver-trinity ksplash-trinity ksvg-trinity
ksysguard-trinity ksysguardd-trinity ktip-trinity ktorrent-trinity
kuickshow-trinity kviewshell-trinity kwalletmanager-trinity kwin-trinity
libarts1c2a-trinity libartsc0-trinity libindex0-trinity
libk3b3-extracodecs-trinity libk3b3-trinity libkcal2b-trinity
libkcddb1-trinity libkdepim1a-trinity libkleopatra1-trinity libkmime2-trinity
libkonq4-trinity libkpimidentities1-trinity libksieve0-trinity
libktnef1-trinity libmimelib1c2a-trinity libsvnqt4-trinity sudo-trinity
--
Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Einnehmerstraße 14
A-4810 Gmunden
Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
11:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
Am Samstag, 5. November 2011 schrieb Greg Madden:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host,
it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze
from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon
starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing
desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I
get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I
have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of
Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged
3.5.13 and re-installed 3.5.12.
In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install.
That happens, when mixing packages are from 3.5.12 and 3.5.13 occures. When
you finish your update ensure there is nothing of 3.5.12 left.
Peace,
Greg
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12:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
On 05/11/11 08:21, Greg Madden wrote:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was
working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the
nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting,
KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity
made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit
failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a
custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it
seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged 3.5.13 and
re-installed 3.5.12.
In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install.
Peace,
Greg
3 machines; HD installs and various virtualbox setups running 3.5.13 so
far flawlessly here.
How did you do this upgrade? Got the latest Squeeze updates installed
first? Proprietary graphics drivers? The old custom xorg.conf sounds
suspect.
I use only apt-get (apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade) Nik is
absolutely right, any major upgrade in X is asking for trouble, maybe
that should be clarified in any official TDE upgrade instructions.
It's probably best to do just the squeeze updates first and reboot,
there could be a new kernel, new xorg... proprietary graphics drivers
might need reinstalling before X will run
Regards,
David
9:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
I don't see how 3.5.13 can be working in Squeeze yet. It's certainly
not working for me. Comparing the sizes of the files in these two
directories suggests that 3.5.13 is incomplete, or am I missing
something?
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/debian/dists/squeeze/main/…
[ ] Packages 13-Oct-2011 08:17 679K
[ ] Packages.bz2 13-Oct-2011 08:17 97K
[ ] Packages.gz 13-Oct-2011 08:17 134K
[ ] Release 13-Oct-2011 08:17 131
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/dists/squee…
[ ] Packages 30-Oct-2011 13:00 118K
[ ] Packages.bz2 30-Oct-2011 13:00 21K
[ ] Packages.gz 30-Oct-2011 13:00 24K
[ ] Release 30-Oct-2011 13:00 147
Note, I started at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/
but the URLs always get redirected to uidaho.
Thanks,
--Mike
6 Nov
6 Nov
12:39 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE 3..5.13 failed upgrade
On Saturday 05 November 2011 1:59:51 pm Mike Bird wrote:
I don't see how 3.5.13 can be working in Squeeze
yet. It's certainly
not working for me. Comparing the sizes of the files in these two
directories suggests that 3.5.13 is incomplete, or am I missing
something?
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/debian/dists/squeeze/main/
binary-i386/ [ ] Packages
13-Oct-2011 08:17 679K [ ] Packages.bz2
13-Oct-2011 08:17 97K [ ] Packages.gz
13-Oct-2011 08:17 134K [ ] Release
13-Oct-2011 08:17 131
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/dists/squee
ze/main/binary-i386/ [ ] Packages
30-Oct-2011 13:00 118K [ ] Packages.bz2
30-Oct-2011 13:00 21K [ ] Packages.gz
30-Oct-2011 13:00 24K [ ] Release
30-Oct-2011 13:00 147
Note, I started at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/
but the URLs always get redirected to uidaho.
Thanks,
--Mike
I used the nightlies server, aaccording to Timothy Pearson it is 'bit for bit' the
same as the releaseed version of TDE 3.5.13.
AFAIK the mirrors are not up to date yet, last I checked.
--
Peace,
Greg
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