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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [trinity-announce] Trinity pre-release freeze
by Timothy Pearson 24 Sep '10

24 Sep '10

> Timothy Pearson wrote: >>> Also on the Squeeze install all the icons on the desktop belong to root? >>> Including trash and my documents, a strange "konqueror web browser" icon >>> is on the desktop belonging to root and I can not put it in the trash or >>> delete it, this is definitely not a "point-n-click" system. >>> >> >> I was not sure if those icons should be included by default on Debian; they can be removed easily enough through the use of Configure >> Desktop->Behavior->Device Icons. Simply deselect the icons you don't want >> to see and they will magically disappear. This feature is similar to the >> old Microsoft system icons system; you cannot delete as you would other icons because they are part of the desktop itself. >> > > > On my laptops Lenny install I have icons, webcam, documents, home, system and trash, all those icons belong to "user: jimmy", "group: users", this has nothing to do with device icons, the Trinity Squeeze system says all the icons belong to root and that is the problem. > > Even your Trinity on Ubuntu says the icons on the desktop belong to me "user: jimmy, group: jimmy" I can add and remove what I want. You can remove those icons from within the "Device Icons" page. The reasoning behind making them root owned (and therefore impossible to delete from the desktop through "normal" means) is as follows: OLD WAY: User A decides to remove an icon from the desktop. He or she deletes said icon through the delete key and empties the trash bin. User A later on decides that he or she wants the icon back. Since it has been deleted, the only obvious way to get it back is to create a new profile from scratch (most people don't know about /etc/skel). This is not exactly user-friendly! OLD WAY: Developer A notices that one of the icons is broken on some systems, so he decides to change the .desktop file responsible for the icon. However, there is no way to propagate the change to existing user profiles, as /etc/skel is only copied on first login. Therefore, the developer has to instruct people to recreate their profiles, or copy a file from /etc/skel and change permissions on it. This is not user or developer friendly, and acts to make Trinity less accessible to the average user. NEW WAY: User B deactivates the icon through "Device Icons". When User B wants the icon back, it is available in "Device Icons" and can be reenabled with a few mouse clicks. Developer B propagates a .desktop file changes to the system directory where the icons are stored. All users receive the updated icon .desktop file transparently. What I can do is to change the default under Debian to not show the icons by default, however I would like some input from the other Debian users on this list as well. Thoughts? Tim

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Re: [trinity-announce] Trinity pre-release freeze
by John A. Sullivan III 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 21:00 -0500, Timothy Pearson wrote: > As of September 21, 2010 a pre-release freeze is being declared for > Trinity version 3.5.12. > > This means that patches will only be accepted into SVN for the following > reasons: > 1. To repair a crash > 2. To repair broken functionality, if the patch is very small and impact > to other code is minimal. > 3. To disable broken features, if the patch required to repair the broken > feature does not fit into category 2 above. > > This freeze means that the following patches, among others, will NOT be > accepted during the freeze period: > 1. Changes to log messages, including warning and informational messages. > 2. User-visible interface changes of any kind. > > As with the feature freeze, this freeze will end on October 1, 2010 with > the release of 3.5.12. > > I encourage everyone to update to the latest SVN release and start testing > to ensure that the software is stable and all features work as intended. > > Thanks to the Trinity developers for all your hard work! > > Timothy Pearson > Trinity Desktop Project > Tried to upgrade to the latest on one of our Lenny (plus needed bits from backports and Squeeze) and am experiencing the following: apt-get update apt-get upgrade Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data-trinity_4%3a3.5.12-0debian6 +r1177990_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I then did apt-get install kdebase-data-trinity and all seemed to work. I noticed that kgtk-qt3-trinity was being withheld. I then tried the following with the following results: jasiii:/# apt-get install kgtk-qt3-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: kgtk-qt3-trinity kgtk-config-icedove kgtk-config-iceweasel Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: debian-kgtk-trinity kgtk-config-bluefish kgtk-config-eclipse kgtk-config-gimp kgtk-config-inkscape kgtk-config-kino kgtk-config-openoffice kgtk-config-opera-qt3 kgtk-config-scribus The following packages will be upgraded: kgtk-qt3-trinity 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 54 not upgraded. Need to get 82.2kB of archives. After this operation, 233kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. I'm certainly looking forward to the stable release. Thanks - John

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Re: [trinity-users] aspell in kmail not working
by Greg Madden 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

On Monday 20 September 2010 14:36:00 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 13:56 -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > > I am running thre latest trinity kdepim 3.5.12, on Debian Squeeze 64 > > bit, using Wmaker WM. > > > > I get the following error when I try to spell check i kmail. > > > > > > "Spell/Aspell could not be started Please make sure you have ISpell or > > Aspell properly configured and in your PATH" > > > > Aspell is properly configured and works for other apps, it is the access > > to Trinity stuff in /opt that I need to fix. '/opt/trinity/bin' is in > > my PATH. I can start a kde app in an xterm using ie. 'kmail' > > > > Other symtoms include: > > 'alt+F2" run command does not use '/opt/trinity/bin' > > to start an app. > > > > Setting an application default for content type in Iceweasel requires > > full path to the kde apps, > > It is working for me on Lenny 64-bit but my setup is somewhat unique. > Are you starting KDE with the startkde from Trinity > (/opt/trinity/bin/startkde I believe)? Peace :) - John I use GDM to manage logins, Window Maker is my window manager, not using a desktop enviroment. I am mainly using kdepim-trinity,kontact-trinity +depends & konsole-trinity. trinity lines from 'export': declare -x \ PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/opt/trinity/bin" declare -x KDEDIRS="/opt/trinity/" declare -x KDEHOME="/home/pabi/.trinity" declare -x MANPATH="/opt/trinity/share/man" declare -x XDG_DATA_DIRS="/opt/trinity/share/:/usr/share/" -- Peace, Greg

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aspell in kmail not working
by Greg Madden 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

I am running thre latest trinity kdepim 3.5.12, on Debian Squeeze 64 bit, using Wmaker WM. I get the following error when I try to spell check i kmail. "Spell/Aspell could not be started Please make sure you have ISpell or Aspell properly configured and in your PATH" Aspell is properly configured and works for other apps, it is the access to Trinity stuff in /opt that I need to fix. '/opt/trinity/bin' is in my PATH. I can start a kde app in an xterm using ie. 'kmail' Other symtoms include: 'alt+F2" run command does not use '/opt/trinity/bin' to start an app. Setting an application default for content type in Iceweasel requires full path to the kde apps, -- Peace, Greg

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Web site and infrastructure defect reporting
by jyqvklioo＠googlemail.com 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Where should or could reports of problems with the Trinity web site or infrastructure be reported?

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Amarok2 system tray icon missing
by Nicolas BERCHER 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Hi Trinity users! I've recently switched from KDE 3.5.10 (Debian Lenny) to KDE 4.4.5 (Debian Squeeze) and was really disappointed by KDE 4 slowlyness (qt4/nvidia driver issue...?). This morning I decided to give a try to Trinity 3.5.12 and I feel... better! Things are almost perfect, fast, etc. just like it was in KDE 3.5.10, even KDE 4 applications appears to run fine (and so, much faster than under KDE 4 itself) However, I wonder if Amarok2 system tray icon is compatible with the KDE3/Trinity system? I've tried various KDE 4 apps that uses system tray icons, and they were ok with that (klipper 4.4.5 for example). Have you got an answer...? Thanks! Nicolas.

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Install new language
by Ксензов Алексей 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

Hello! When I push the button "Install new language" in the "Regional & Language" settings, I get window "Error - KdeSudo Command not found" Also, I can not turn the "Administrator mode ..." because not installed package libpythonize0-kde3

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Keyboard Switching Policy
by Ксензов Алексей 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

In keyboard layout settings i try change Switching Policy to "Application" and click "Apply", then i open Settings and Switching Policy set to "Global" again.

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can't install 10.04 (kde3)
by Uwe Brauer 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

Hello Maybe I did not emphasise the issue enough. But right now I cannot install trinity because of the problem with kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a: see my message from 9th of September. Any advice or do I have to return to 9.04 which worked without any problems. thanks Uwe Brauer

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Problems installing kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a: not solved
by Uwe Brauer 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

From: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:43:54 -0500 Hi Murray, The outdated 3.5.10 version of kdelibs in the Ubuntu archives (including kdelibs-data) is not compatible with the new KDE3/Trinity version of kdelibs (which includes kdelibs-data-kde3). Please remove kdelibs-data, and note which programs will be removed with it. Then try reinstalling those programs, but with a -kde3 suffix appended. For example, kolourpaint becomes kolourpaint-kde3. Hope this helps! Tim ------------------------------------------- Hello I have the same problem(s) (the sudo problem and now this library problem, in jaunty everything was smooth, but no complain, since I very much appreciate you efforts) however it seems that I can't solve the lib problem for exmaple> sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a-kde3 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done kdelibs4c2a-kde3 is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libskim0: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) but it is not going to be installed skim: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). so how to I interpret this message? Then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done kubuntu-desktop-kde3 is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libskim0: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) but it is not going to be installed skim: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). ----------------------- I feel uneasy about these messages finally: ---------------------------- sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 49 not upgraded. 393 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/17.0MB of archives. After this operation, 57.1MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y (Reading database ... 128989 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/colors/40.colors', which is also in package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unpacking kdelibs4c2a (from .../kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/khotnewstuffrc', which is also in package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 Processing triggers for man-db ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ------------------------------------------------ regards Uwe Brauer

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