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Persistent configuration of multihead screen
by rantalbott＠gmail.com 11 Jul '23

11 Jul '23

Running R14.0.12 on Ubuntu 20.04 I have two 1920x1080 monitors that I use as one 3840x1080 X screen. On startup, TDM has the left and right monitors "swapped". I can manually rearrange them once I'm logged in, but that's annoying. Especially because the configuration program does something weird to the color map on one monitor, so I have to logout and log back in. It would be nice to have a "save configuration" option when doing a manual setup, but I suspect the developers have more important things to do ;-) I've found two suggestions for solving this problem. One is to add an xrandr command to my .xinitrc (which I don't actually have at the moment), and the other is to put a configuration into xorg.conf (which I also don't have now. And which worries me a bit, because the structure of /etc/X11 has changed quite a bit since I last had to fiddle with it, years ago. The Ubuntu installer developers have gotten really good at getting it right automagically...) The latter seems preferable, since it would bring TDM up in the proper configuration, but it's not clear whether I'd need to do a complete X configuration with all the various devices in it. If you have some experience with this, please let me know; a. whether TDM will freak out if I do an xrandr in the middle of login b. how much of an x configuration I need to create to position the monitors, or c. whether there's a TDM config file I can fiddle to make it arrange the monitors. Thanks, Ran

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prevent to launch an application at boot
by ajh-valmer 07 Jul '23

07 Jul '23

Hello, How prevent to launch an application at boot with tde-trinity. The application is "Anydesk". It appears in the down taskbar, right. Thanks, Cheers, André

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Fw: Education Direction
by Alex Cornwell 03 Jul '23

03 Jul '23

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Alex Cornwell" <alexcornwell(a)yahoo.com> To: "users(a)trinitydesktop.org" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> Cc: Sent: Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:18 Subject: Education Direction Hi, all! I love TDE and want to see it thrive for ages to come. Problem is I don't know where to start online education wise. I know I can use places like Linux Foundation and Udemy but what classes does one take? Should I try learning C++? Learn what TQt actually is and does? I just haven't a clue where to start. Thank you for any help you guys can provide. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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korganizer-trinity
by ajh-valmer 29 Jun '23

29 Jun '23

Hello, Recently, the icon of korganizer-trinity was in the down taskbar, on the right. Now, it has disappeared. "Execute a command" on the desktop => korganizer : it opens, but at next reboot, the icon of korganizer has disappeared again. How to maintain the icon in the taskbar ? Thanks, Cheers André

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Setting Konsole options
by J Leslie Turriff 23 Jun '23

23 Jun '23

I've just installed a package that includes some components that run in a terminal session. The package installed various application icons in KMenu. When I start the component that runs in a terminal, a Konsole session pops up, then immediately closes. See the attached image while reading further. If I open KMenu's Menu Editor to edit the entry it provides only the 'Run in terminal check box', but not the 'Do not close when command exits checkbox'; the only way to access that checkbox is to add the application to the screen's menu bar, right-click the icon, select the 'Configure <program> button...' option, select the Application tab in the Properties dialog, click on 'Advanced Options', and finally the ''Do not close when command exits checkbox' appears. Shouldn't the 'Do not close when command exits checkbox' be presented in the Menu Editor's window as well? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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Safe to remove program icons on Trinity Desktop without removing the apps themselves?
by jim_gunn＠yahoo.com 23 Jun '23

23 Jun '23

I'm brand new to Linux and just installed the Trinity desktop with Q4OS on a older pc. One thing I am unclear about- are the shortcut icons on the Trinity desktop that came with my distro installation for example, LibreOffice or Thunderbird able to be deleted or removed from the desktop without removing the apps themselves just like on a Windows desktop where the icons are just shortcuts and can be deleted safely without removing the apps themselves?

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Anyone else think 14.1.x slowed things down?
by Felix Miata 17 Jun '23

17 Jun '23

This is an early dual core, but it seems as though it has gotten slower reaching the login screen since the upgrade from 14.0.13, here, more than four minutes from beginning of journal until TDM paints: # inxi -CIS System: Host: gx620 Kernel: 6.2.12-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20230603 CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium D bits: 64 type: MCP cache: L2: 4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 2993 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 2993 2: 2993 Info: Processes: 139 Uptime: 0h 11m Memory: 3.38 GiB used: 417.9 MiB (12.1%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26 # pinxi -Gaz --vs --zl --hostname pinxi 3.3.27-04 (2023-05-31) Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-3.5 process: Intel 90nm built: 2005-06 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2772 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 driver: X: loaded: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: i915 gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 108 s-size: 395x246mm (15.55x9.69") s-diag: 465mm (18.32") Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 91 gamma: 1.2 size: 470x300mm (18.5x11.81") diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400 API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 23.0.3 renderer: i915 (: 945G) direct-render: Yes # journalctl -b --no-host | grep -E 'l: Command l|tdm|rinit' Jun 04 16:44:37 kernel: Command line: root=... noresume preempt=full mitigations=none Jun 04 16:46:09 display-manager[717]: Starting service tdm Jun 04 16:48:45 dbus-daemon[616]: [system] Activating service name='org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' requested by ':1.10' (uid=0 pid=838 comm="/opt/trinity/bin/tdm_greet") (using servicehelper) Jun 04 16:48:45 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[855]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Listening... Jun 04 16:48:45 dbus-daemon[616]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' Jun 04 16:48:46 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[855]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name acquired: :1.11 Jun 04 16:48:47 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[855]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name acquired: org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol # systemd-analyze Startup finished in 3.519s (kernel) + 15.292s (initrd) + 1min 46.790s (userspace) = 2min 5.602s graphical.target reached after 1min 19.996s in userspace. # systemd-analyze critical-chain ... graphical.target @1min 19.996s └─display-manager.service @1min 7.367s +10.192s └─systemd-logind.service @1min 6.614s +734ms └─nss-user-lookup.target @1min 5.849s └─nscd.service @1min 2.656s +3.189s └─basic.target @1min 2.241s └─sockets.target @1min 2.240s └─telnet.socket @1min 2.240s └─sysinit.target @1min 1.976s └─systemd-update-utmp.service @1min 1.760s +215ms └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1min 536ms +1.195s └─local-fs.target @1min 403ms └─run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount @1min 552ms └─local-fs-pre.target @11.668s └─lvm2-monitor.service @5.147s +6.519s └─dm-event.socket @5.092s └─system.slice └─-.slice # systemd-analyze blame | head -11 42.795s systemd-journal-flush.service 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2d0ATA_ST1000DL002\x2d9TT1_W1V0G6JD\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-sda6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dSATA_ST1000DL002\x2d9TT1_W1V0G6JD\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2d1ATA_ST1000DL002\x2d9TT153_W1V0G6JD\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2ddiskseq-10\x2dpart6.device 37.680s sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata3-host2-target2:0:0-2:0:0:0-block-sda-sda6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2duuid-6C9066139065E3D4.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:1f.2\x2data\x2d1.0\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2d35000c500390ca681\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:1f.2\x2data\x2d1\x2dpart6.device # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Important backport for TDE R14.1.0 packages
by Slávek Banko 16 Jun '23

16 Jun '23

Hi everyone, some users of RPM-based distros reported high CPU usage and general slowness when upgrading from R14.0.x to R14.1.0. The issue has been investigated and the problem resolved in R14.1.1-devel (see https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/tde/tde/issues/128). Given the severity of the problem, we have decided to backport the required fixes and release updated builds of the affected packages for R14.1.0. Although the problem only showed up on specific RPM distros, packages have been updated for all distros for consistency. Please make sure you update to the latest available version of all tqt3 and tdelibs packages in your distribution. If you are a PSB/PTB user, you should have already received or will receive the fixes as part of the last/next update. Cheers The TDE dev team

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Toggle keyboard layout + xkbd @ TDE R14.1.0
by Petr Palacký 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Hi folks, after upgrading to R14.1.0 I miss the old way of switching between keyboard layouts with Ctrl+Alt+K. It looks like the option to NOT use xkbd is missing and the only option to toggle is now xkbd. In addition, the keyboard model setting apparently stopped working, in my case "Dell Latitude laptop" - some functions no longer work, e.g. Fn+F1 (for sleep) or Fn+F5 (for touchpad toggle) or Fn+Arrows (for brightness level). Everything worked for over a decade before the upgrade. I prefer TDE because its basic functions have not fundamentally changed since the KDE3 era, and after twenty years of using the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+K, I have a hard time getting used to the "new" shortcuts. Is there any way to revert back to the original keyboard shortcut for switching the keyboard layout? Many thanks Best regards -- Petr Palacky Outgoing message is virus free because we are using Linux. Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm), kernel 6.1.0-2-amd64.

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X wont start with TDM but will with startx
by jacobheinrich＠hotmail.com 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Hey everyone, sorry if this is the wrong place. I am having issues with TDM on my Debian install, it never wants to start x. When I use startx it loads trinity (with broken transparency), but I cant get TDM to work at all. My tdm.log ends with: Jun 10 10:17:44 tdm_config[676] info: Cannot open master configuration file /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmdistrc X.Org X Server 1.21.1.7 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Current Operating System: Linux JacobsLaptop 6.1.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08) x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=248d85dc-1c76-4bf1-a13a-b0589ac29faf ro quiet xorg-server 2:21.1.7-3 (https://www.debian.org/support) Current version of pixman: 0.42.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jun 10 10:17:44 2023 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) no screens found(EE) (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. (EE) (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. Jun 10 10:17:44 tdm[671] error: X server died during startup Jun 10 10:17:44 tdm[671] error: X server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled And my xorg.0.log looks like: X.Org X Server 1.21.1.7 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 4.821] Current Operating System: Linux JacobsLaptop 6.1.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08) x86_64 [ 4.821] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=248d85dc-1c76-4bf1-a13a-b0589ac29faf ro quiet [ 4.821] xorg-server 2:21.1.7-3 (https://www.debian.org/support) [ 4.821] Current version of pixman: 0.42.2 [ 4.821] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 4.821] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 4.821] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jun 10 10:17:44 2023 [ 4.822] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 4.823] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 4.823] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 4.823] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 4.823] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>" [ 4.824] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 4.824] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 4.824] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 4.824] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [ 4.824] (==) Automatically binding GPU devices [ 4.824] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff [ 4.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [ 4.824] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist. [ 4.824] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist. [ 4.824] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.825] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist. [ 4.825] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.825] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist. [ 4.825] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.825] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, built-ins [ 4.825] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" [ 4.825] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 4.825] (II) Loader magic: 0x556089395f00 [ 4.825] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 4.825] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 4.825] X.Org Video Driver: 25.2 [ 4.825] X.Org XInput driver : 24.4 [ 4.825] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 [ 4.826] (++) using VT number 7 [ 4.826] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration [ 4.832] (--) PCI:*(0@0:2:0) 8086:1916:1028:07a7 rev 7, Mem @ 0xee000000/16777216, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072 [ 4.832] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 4.833] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 4.837] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.838] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 1.0.0 [ 4.838] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0 [ 4.838] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 0 [ 4.838] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 1 [ 4.838] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2 [ 4.838] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout [ 4.838] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" [ 4.838] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so [ 4.838] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.838] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 1.21.1 [ 4.838] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 4.838] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.838] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" [ 4.838] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so [ 4.839] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.839] compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 0.5.0 [ 4.839] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 4.839] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.839] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" [ 4.839] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so [ 4.839] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.839] compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 2.5.0 [ 4.839] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 4.839] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.839] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms [ 4.839] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev [ 4.839] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 4.840] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 4.840] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting [ 4.840] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 4.840] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 4.841] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.841] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2 [ 4.841] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.841] (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device [ 4.841] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev [ 4.841] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 4.841] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.841] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2 [ 4.841] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.841] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory [ 4.841] vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver [ 4.841] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 4.841] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting" [ 4.841] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 4.841] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" [ 4.841] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw" [ 4.842] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 4.842] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" [ 4.842] (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file. [ 4.842] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 4.842] (EE) no screens found(EE) [ 4.842] (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [ 4.842] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. [ 4.842] (EE) [ 4.842] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

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