[tde-users] network-manager-tde versus gufw - a success story

So at last it came down to this, the need to pick one or the other, but not both. I followed Slavek's recommendations, and managed to install packages that provided the systemd-type stuff that was needed for network-manager; thus I was able to install network-manager-tde, as well. But now I was bummed out, because I couldn't get gufw, couldn't have firestarter any more, couldn't have a gui firewall. I still had to figure out the inner workings of gufw, but it seemed my best hope of a firewall. Then it occurred to me ... I still have the packages for gufw, as well as the required dependencies ... evil thoughts were brewing ... time to work some forbidden self-hacking black magic! So I used dpkg and installed the firewall packages that I had already saved; to wit: firewalld gufw ifupdown policykit python3 python3-gi python-ufw ufw Mind you, ifupdown is a package for the network; but when I originally installed firewall packages, it somehow got caught up in the dependencies or recommendations. Then, in keeping with my habit, I moved the packages to a safe location: sudo mv -v -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb -t /media/<my_safe_location> and changed permissions in that folder, so that I could work with them, move them around to other folders, and so on (chown and chgrp). I started doing this because Internet was spotty, or because I worked in different locations a lot, or sometimes just because my networking was problematic, and packages can't be downloaded if you can't connect. But if you have them saved somewhere, no problem. (Yes, I know they say to prefer downloading from the repository, but you can always update later, once you actually get your system running!) And it all ends with everybody living happily ever after: Once I got not only tdenetworkmanager and network-manager installed, as well as gufw, I ran sudo apt-get -f install, just to see if it would try uninstalling something, and everything is just fine. So, if this helps anybody who wants to do the same, there you go. As I said, I would eventually get my system to do what I wanted. Now if we could make it so that the pseudo-conflict with systemd goes away (since it is only apparent, from what I can tell), that would be nice. But at least there is a possible way to work around it. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting