On Friday 05 July 2019 21:05:29 David C. Rankin wrote:
W A I T ... W A I T ... W A I T ...
Do not ask a question by changing the title to an old question and posting
it. That destroys message threading. This current message was buried at the
bottom of the original thread:
[trinity-users] chat clients - cannot connect - 2/14/19
Ummm ... I don't know what to say! I created a new email from scratch. It
wasn't a response to a previous post, so maybe that has something to do with
your filters?
I don't know how it could have happened otherwise. It was a new email, new
title, and so far as I can tell, it ought to be a new question; therefore, it
is a completely new thread. I even made up all the words myself, and did not
plagiarize, honest! (I only plagiarize poems, because T.S. Eliot told me that
was how all the best poets write.)
Maybe it has been asked before, but not by myself, and I did not respond to a
previous email to start this thread.
Anyway, 'tis a mystery, at least to me. But to return our muttons ...
On 07/05/2019 06:16 PM, William Morder via
trinity-users wrote:
There are actually two issues, maybe three; but I
think maybe they are
all related to the panel, thus I put them together here.
1. is trivial, but still annoying. Whenever I start up certain apps, I
get a two icons in the panel; a smaller icon, but also a shadow icon - a
larger reduplication of the original - but I only need the first. I have
got in the habit of just killing the shadow icons by running the command
pkill ksystraycmd, and then it goes away until I run another app.
Somehow or other (back when I was running KDE3), I found a way to
suppress the shadow icons, but now I can't find it in my notes, and
nothing online. I went into TCC, and unclicked boxes in menu items, etc.,
but it keeps returning.
First, just so I am clear you are not talking about the application name
and icons shown in the taskbar, and then the smaller icons displayed in the
pager are you?
2. Panel hiding is much more annoying. Quite by
accident, when some
object on my desk hits the mouse, my panel suddenly hides, and will not
come back. I've tried changing settings, locking the panel, etc.; it even
survives reboots and shutdowns. I try clicking to restore the panel, and
NOTHING HAPPENS, and continues not to happen, for ever.
You do not have panel hiding selected in TCC->Desktop->Panels (Hiding tab)
[ ] Hide automatically do you?
No, I dislike when the panel (or kicker) hides. If I could disable it
completely, that would be better; but I hedge a little, because then maybe
for some reason, once in a thousand days, I want to make it hide because some
button or something is covered by my lower panel. That is very rare, but on
those very few occasions I've wanted to make it hide, so I can imagine that
it might happen again. Otherwise, I prefer to make the panel fixed right
where it is.
To restart, use Alt+F2
dcop kicker kicker restart
or
dcop kicker Panel restart
"Panel" is a dcop alias for "kicker" but may not be present in your
system.
You can always open an konsole (or an xterm) and type
dcop kicker (now look at list)
then to see what you can do, just add any of the next items listed, e.g.
dcop kicker kicker (now you should see restart())
3. When I unlock the panel, and move round the
icons, it gets totally
messed up. Even if I lock it, the icons keep moving round, and again,
this behavior survives through reboots and shutdowns. When at last I get
my icons to behave, and lock the panel and leave it alone.
Log out of TDE, then switch to another desktop (or use ctrl+alt+f2 to
switch to a text terminal and login) then move or delete kickerrc to force
restoration of the default panel:
mv ~/.tde/share/config/kickerrc ~/.tde/share/config/kickerrc.sav
Now log back into TDE.
For 2 & 3, I have tried killing the panel by
running pkill kicker, then
restarting, but this doesn't work so well. When it does work at all, the
panel appears on only one out of my 20 desktops, and again, this
sometimes persists through multiple reboots.
Of course, TDE settings and configs are persistent and most are stored in
~/.tde/share/config
I will give the rest of these suggestions a try. I dug down deep into the
config files when I ran KDE3, but for the most part I have just copied them
over to the appropriate place in TDE, when I can find them. Sometimes they
have been changed in such a way that I cannot preserve my settings, because
the config files are no longer text files in some instances, but xml and
other extensions.
In any case, I have managed to restore my panel (i.e., kicker, or
kicker-trinity, or maybe it will get renamed ticker?). I'll report my results
after I explore these issues further.
Bill