greets!
I'm using David Hare's exegnu with Jessie but for this purpose anything Trinity-esque will do.
I'd like to make a live flashdrive that will be wifi-ready so it's got to have the atheros firmware. not quite sure how to achieve this. doing up a live flashdrive is easy, it's getting the non-free firmware stuff to run that's the problem.
quick tips?
f.
(Sorry for top-posting; I'm on my phone)
I suggest you to use Unetbootin. This utility let you transfer almost any LiveCd to a usb key and make it bootable. Please note that sometimes it doesn't work on first try.
On this website, in the download section, you will be able to find a selection of livecd. If you use my PCLinuxOS remaster, all the needed firmwares are installed stock. Probably on the Ubuntu livecd too.
Good luck! -Alexandre
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:29:57 -0400 From: davisf@union.edu To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: [trinity-users] live flashdrive with exegnu (or something)
greets!
I'm using David Hare's exegnu with Jessie but for this purpose anything Trinity-esque will do.
I'd like to make a live flashdrive that will be wifi-ready so it's got to have the atheros firmware. not quite sure how to achieve this. doing up a live flashdrive is easy, it's getting the non-free firmware stuff to run that's the problem.
quick tips?
f.
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Alexandre wrote:
(Sorry for top-posting; I'm on my phone)
I suggest you to use Unetbootin. This utility let you transfer almost any LiveCd to a usb key and make it bootable. Please note that sometimes it doesn't work on first try.
yes, I know unetbootin; the issue is getting the wifi firmware to run.
On this website, in the download section, you will be able to find a selection of livecd. If you use my PCLinuxOS remaster, all the needed firmwares are installed stock. Probably on the Ubuntu livecd too.
ok, I may settle for PCL but my preference would be to know how to integrate the firmware into the livecd and use exegnu. I'll avoid Ubuntu in any case.
f.
Good luck! -Alexandre
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:29:57 -0400 From: davisf@union.edu To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: [trinity-users] live flashdrive with exegnu (or something)
greets!
I'm using David Hare's exegnu with Jessie but for this purpose anything Trinity-esque will do.
I'd like to make a live flashdrive that will be wifi-ready so it's got to have the atheros firmware. not quite sure how to achieve this. doing up a live flashdrive is easy, it's getting the non-free firmware stuff to run that's the problem.
quick tips?
f.
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Inside every old person is a young person... Wondering what the heck happened.
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On 29 June 2015 at 22:50, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote: <snip>
ok, I may settle for PCL but my preference would be to know how to integrate the firmware into the livecd and use exegnu. I'll avoid Ubuntu in any case.
<snip>
Check my latest post under "New amd64 exegnulinux devuan-based iso with TDE". If you have access to a distro with the non-free files, maybe you can copy them to the live flashdrive. Or copy them over after installation. R.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Robert Peters wrote:
On 29 June 2015 at 22:50, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
<snip> > ok, I may settle for PCL but my preference would be to know how to integrate > the firmware into the livecd and use exegnu. I'll avoid Ubuntu in any case. <snip>
Check my latest post under "New amd64 exegnulinux devuan-based iso with TDE". If you have access to a distro with the non-free files, maybe you can copy them to the live flashdrive. Or copy them over after installation. R.
I saw your post and congratulations for solving your problem.
in my case:
a) I don't think one can just copy stuff over to a livecd and have it work. one has to deal with the special filesystem on a livecd; and
b) I don't want to install the system, I want to boot it, for instance on a friend's Windows machine without disturbing their setup.
f.
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 01:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Robert Peters wrote:
On 29 June 2015 at 22:50, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
<snip> > ok, I may settle for PCL but my preference would be to know how to integrate > the firmware into the livecd and use exegnu. I'll avoid Ubuntu in any case. <snip>
Check my latest post under "New amd64 exegnulinux devuan-based iso with TDE". If you have access to a distro with the non-free files, maybe you can copy them to the live flashdrive. Or copy them over after installation. R.
I saw your post and congratulations for solving your problem.
in my case:
a) I don't think one can just copy stuff over to a livecd and have it work. one has to deal with the special filesystem on a livecd; and
I wouldn't say it's "special", exactly--usually you've got an iso with a squashfs blob containing a pretty normal linux filesystem inside. I've never actually tried this, but based on a little reading, the modification steps would be something like this:
1. Mount the iso read-only 2. Copy all the files to a temporary directory in your computer's main file system 3. Mount the squashfs (on the non-current exegnu image I probed, it was in /mnt/temp/live ) 4. Copy the files out of the squashfs and into a temporary directory, since that file system is read-only 5. Mess around with the files as you would on any other system 6. Rebuild the squashfs ( http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SquashFS-HOWTO/ has fairly extensive directions) and copy it over the old one. 7. Rebuild the iso using the software of your choice (a different livecd distro suggests a command-line tool called xorriso, if you have no preference or can't get your favourite to produce something bootable)
You'll need to have support for squashfs in your kernel, but most of the binary distros throw in everything but the kitchen sink anyway.
Best of luck.
E. Liddell
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, E. Liddell wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 01:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote: [...]
a) I don't think one can just copy stuff over to a livecd and have it work. one has to deal with the special filesystem on a livecd; and
I wouldn't say it's "special", exactly--usually you've got an iso with a squashfs blob containing a pretty normal linux filesystem inside. I've never actually tried this, but based on a little reading, the modification steps would be something like this:
- Mount the iso read-only
- Copy all the files to a temporary directory in your computer's main
file system 3. Mount the squashfs (on the non-current exegnu image I probed, it was in /mnt/temp/live ) 4. Copy the files out of the squashfs and into a temporary directory, since that file system is read-only 5. Mess around with the files as you would on any other system 6. Rebuild the squashfs ( http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SquashFS-HOWTO/ has fairly extensive directions) and copy it over the old one. 7. Rebuild the iso using the software of your choice (a different livecd distro suggests a command-line tool called xorriso, if you have no preference or can't get your favourite to produce something bootable)
I once saw some instructions like this; a couple of steps are unclear to me but I don't have the time right now to muddle through but will attempt it when I get some 'hacking' time.
You'll need to have support for squashfs in your kernel, but most of the binary distros throw in everything but the kitchen sink anyway.
looks like it's in the kernel here: 3.16.0-4-686-pae.
f.
Best of luck.
E. Liddell
On 30/06/15 06:55, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Robert Peters wrote:
On 29 June 2015 at 22:50, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
<snip> > ok, I may settle for PCL but my preference would be to know how to > integrate > the firmware into the livecd and use exegnu. I'll avoid Ubuntu in any > case. <snip>
Check my latest post under "New amd64 exegnulinux devuan-based iso with TDE". If you have access to a distro with the non-free files, maybe you can copy them to the live flashdrive. Or copy them over after installation. R.
I saw your post and congratulations for solving your problem.
in my case:
a) I don't think one can just copy stuff over to a livecd and have it work. one has to deal with the special filesystem on a livecd; and
b) I don't want to install the system, I want to boot it, for instance on a friend's Windows machine without disturbing their setup.
f.
Just copy the debs to your usb stick and install with dpkg -i .. you can install what you want in a live session. The aufs filesystem holds changes in ram until poweroff/reboot. However you can use "persistence" (see live-boot man page) which will write changes to a file or partition and reload them next boot.
There is on my live-image a utility "exegnu2usb" It is a normal bash script rather than binary blob. I haven't tested it lately on Jessie though. Unetbootin does nothing that can't be done from standard cli tools.
Here I use a 64gb usb with multiple live systems, some with persistence, selectable at boot from menu. All on a single partition. You can't do that with unetbootin nor dd.
There is also a remaster utility "refracta-snapshot" with which you may build a new ISO from the running live session, with whatever you want preinstalled (you need a mounted ext* partition for the "work" area). This is quite well tested and works very well for a "personal", portable live-image.
I don't know much about PCLOS or if such utilities are available. The exegnu images are deliberately designed to be "lightweight" and cd-size compared to Alexandre's images. Whatever your needs, choice is good.
And exegnu is now too purist for this purpose.
Sorry Lisi.. I don't mean to be idealogically "purist". Till recently exegnu was for current mainstream Debian Stable but since Jessie I just don't want to work with systemd and have opted to support Devuan.
Unless you mean not including nonfree (which I never did anyway). Exegnu is a non-profit project which supports GPL and has no lawyers on the payroll.
D
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:14:48 David Hare wrote:
And exegnu is now too purist for this purpose.
Sorry Lisi.. I don't mean to be idealogically "purist". Till recently exegnu was for current mainstream Debian Stable but since Jessie I just don't want to work with systemd and have opted to support Devuan.
Unless you mean not including nonfree (which I never did anyway). Exegnu is a non-profit project which supports GPL and has no lawyers on the payroll.
That wasn't a criticism, David. I love your CD, though I don't agree with you about Devuan. But as you say, choice is great. The crucial words were "for *this* purpose".
I used to use Knoppix for years. But I can'cope with all that bling.
Lisi
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, David Hare wrote:
On 30/06/15 06:55, Felmon Davis wrote:
[...]
in my case:
a) I don't think one can just copy stuff over to a livecd and have it work. one has to deal with the special filesystem on a livecd; and
b) I don't want to install the system, I want to boot it, for instance on a friend's Windows machine without disturbing their setup.
f.
Just copy the debs to your usb stick and install with dpkg -i .. you can install what you want in a live session. The aufs filesystem holds changes in ram until poweroff/reboot. However you can use "persistence" (see live-boot man page) which will write changes to a file or partition and reload them next boot.
thanks, this makes good sense.
I'm a bit pressed for time but I'll experiment with the things you mention below when I have opportunity.
f.
There is on my live-image a utility "exegnu2usb" It is a normal bash script rather than binary blob. I haven't tested it lately on Jessie though. Unetbootin does nothing that can't be done from standard cli tools.
Here I use a 64gb usb with multiple live systems, some with persistence, selectable at boot from menu. All on a single partition. You can't do that with unetbootin nor dd.
There is also a remaster utility "refracta-snapshot" with which you may build a new ISO from the running live session, with whatever you want preinstalled (you need a mounted ext* partition for the "work" area). This is quite well tested and works very well for a "personal", portable live-image.
I don't know much about PCLOS or if such utilities are available. The exegnu images are deliberately designed to be "lightweight" and cd-size compared to Alexandre's images. Whatever your needs, choice is good.
And exegnu is now too purist for this purpose.
Sorry Lisi.. I don't mean to be idealogically "purist". Till recently exegnu was for current mainstream Debian Stable but since Jessie I just don't want to work with systemd and have opted to support Devuan.
Unless you mean not including nonfree (which I never did anyway). Exegnu is a non-profit project which supports GPL and has no lawyers on the payroll.
D
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On 01/07/15 01:54, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, David Hare wrote:
On 30/06/15 06:55, Felmon Davis wrote:
[...]
in my case:
a) I don't think one can just copy stuff over to a livecd and have it work. one has to deal with the special filesystem on a livecd; and
b) I don't want to install the system, I want to boot it, for instance on a friend's Windows machine without disturbing their setup.
f.
Just copy the debs to your usb stick and install with dpkg -i .. you can install what you want in a live session. The aufs filesystem holds changes in ram until poweroff/reboot. However you can use "persistence" (see live-boot man page) which will write changes to a file or partition and reload them next boot.
thanks, this makes good sense.
I'm a bit pressed for time but I'll experiment with the things you mention below when I have opportunity.
f.
There is on my live-image a utility "exegnu2usb" It is a normal bash script rather than binary blob. I haven't tested it lately on Jessie though. Unetbootin does nothing that can't be done from standard cli tools.
Here I use a 64gb usb with multiple live systems, some with persistence, selectable at boot from menu. All on a single partition. You can't do that with unetbootin nor dd.
There is also a remaster utility "refracta-snapshot" with which you may build a new ISO from the running live session, with whatever you want preinstalled (you need a mounted ext* partition for the "work" area). This is quite well tested and works very well for a "personal", portable live-image.
I don't know much about PCLOS or if such utilities are available. The exegnu images are deliberately designed to be "lightweight" and cd-size compared to Alexandre's images. Whatever your needs, choice is good.
And exegnu is now too purist for this purpose.
Sorry Lisi.. I don't mean to be idealogically "purist". Till recently exegnu was for current mainstream Debian Stable but since Jessie I just don't want to work with systemd and have opted to support Devuan.
Unless you mean not including nonfree (which I never did anyway). Exegnu is a non-profit project which supports GPL and has no lawyers on the payroll.
D
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I know that on PCLinuxOS I use mklvecd and make my ISO's that way after making the image I want with or without none-free drivers, I then use the pclos usb creator to make a bootable usb stick or HD to install on to other machines, really easy to do :) I built the trinity ISO's from the triniyy and pclinuxos repos
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 03:20:54 Alexandre wrote:
On this website, in the download section, you will be able to find a selection of livecd. If you use my PCLinuxOS remaster, all the needed firmwares are installed stock. Probably on the Ubuntu livecd too.
Alexandre -
Your CD has indeed been a mainstay of mine for a quick boot-up now the Knoppix Live CD is so flashy.
But you no longer do a CD, and whilst a DVD gives the best basis for an installation, because it has a realistic choice of applications, it is just too big and slow for live rescue work, or for demonstrating TDE on old hardware.
And exegnu is now too purist for this purpose.
Those being my mainstays!
What do people now use and recommend?
Lisi
On 30/06/15 08:29, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 03:20:54 Alexandre wrote:
On this website, in the download section, you will be able to find a selection of livecd. If you use my PCLinuxOS remaster, all the needed firmwares are installed stock. Probably on the Ubuntu livecd too.
Alexandre -
Your CD has indeed been a mainstay of mine for a quick boot-up now the Knoppix Live CD is so flashy.
But you no longer do a CD, and whilst a DVD gives the best basis for an installation, because it has a realistic choice of applications, it is just too big and slow for live rescue work, or for demonstrating TDE on old hardware.
And exegnu is now too purist for this purpose.
Those being my mainstays!
What do people now use and recommend?
Lisi
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I of course use mine, however there is a minime version too that can be used as a base
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