A few months ago, when my desktop turned its toes up and went skywards to its rest, I started to use my testbed machine as a temporary desktop. It was already running Squeeze and TDE, so I moved my mail folders and set out to use it. My emails simply wouldn't display, and when I installed Lenny on this machine I found that said emails had been mauled. Fortunately, I had three copies and the third was fine. So far, so good.
Now Lenny has been pensioned off. (Well, will have been by tomorrow.) I clearly have to face Squeeze and TDE again. But I want my email; emails, folders and all. I can find no reference to anything other than what I did, and it is not impossible that the HDD was faulty and that that is the problem. I have searched on Google, but so far as I can tell, I did the right thing.
So please, before I dive in again, and this time I would not be able to retreat to Lenny, can I have all and any advice on how to save my emails? Other than take a large number of copies, which I shall do anyway.
Thanks, Lisi
Hi,
In order to be able to help you, we probably need some more information. What is your client software for email ? Are you using kmail ? If so, I'd say it simply needs to copy the .kde/share/apps/kmail folder from Lenny/KDE to the .trinity/share/apps/kmail of Squeeze/TDE (that was what I done and it was all right) and you'll get your mails in kmail- trinity. Maybe you will have to enter your account passwords again, but that will be all, to my sense. So some few questions - how exactly did you "move" your emails ? (from and to folder names?) - is everything ok about your mails on your Lenny version, can you see them all under kmail or whatever ? - is your user has the same name on both Lenny and Squeeze ?
Just tell us ;)
Regards
Pierre
Le dimanche 05 février 2012 à 21:33 +0000, Lisi a écrit :
A few months ago, when my desktop turned its toes up and went skywards to its rest, I started to use my testbed machine as a temporary desktop. It was already running Squeeze and TDE, so I moved my mail folders and set out to use it. My emails simply wouldn't display, and when I installed Lenny on this machine I found that said emails had been mauled. Fortunately, I had three copies and the third was fine. So far, so good.
Now Lenny has been pensioned off. (Well, will have been by tomorrow.) I clearly have to face Squeeze and TDE again. But I want my email; emails, folders and all. I can find no reference to anything other than what I did, and it is not impossible that the HDD was faulty and that that is the problem. I have searched on Google, but so far as I can tell, I did the right thing.
So please, before I dive in again, and this time I would not be able to retreat to Lenny, can I have all and any advice on how to save my emails? Other than take a large number of copies, which I shall do anyway.
Thanks, Lisi
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Sorry - that is very charitable wording compared to what I deserve!
On Sunday 05 February 2012 22:14:30 pierre.lag6633@free.fr wrote:
In order to be able to help you, we probably need some more information. What is your client software for email ? Are you using kmail ?
Yes.
If so, I'd say it simply needs to copy the .kde/share/apps/kmail folder from Lenny/KDE to the .trinity/share/apps/kmail of Squeeze/TDE (that was what I done and it was all right) and you'll get your mails in kmail- trinity.
I copied Mail to Mail, as I had frequently done before. It would appear that that was what I had done incorrectly. Helped by faulty HDDs.
Maybe you will have to enter your account passwords again, but that will be all, to my sense.
I don't mind having to re-enter things like that! It is the emails and folder structure that I desperately want to carry over.
So some few questions - how exactly did you "move" your emails ? (from and to folder names?)
Originally, /home/lisi/Mail to /home/lisi/Mail. That would appear to be at least part of my mistake, from what you say.
- is everything ok about your mails on your Lenny version, can you see them all under kmail or whatever ?
Oh, yes. They are fine now. I lost a few emails, but that is all.
- is your user has the same name on both Lenny and Squeeze ?
Yes. I change as little as possible.
I think that you have already answered my basic question. I shall take great care to have at least four separate copies of /home, preferably five. And if I get stuck, appeal here. I just wondered whether I should be doing something by way of deliberately storing a copy of my emails in a special format for transfer.
All I have to decide now is whether to update this machine or get a move-on in rebuilding my desktop and start fresh on that with Squeeze.
Thank you very much, Pierre.
Lisi
Well no worries, glad it has helped you.
I forgot one (important) thing about the .kde to .trinity trick : for kmail not be lost with its configuration, you need to create a shortcut to ".trinity" folder with name ".kde" . That works for any trinity application that uses the reference to .kde folder in a configuration file that has been copied from a KDE3 environment. You must be careful not to mess this up with some new KDE 4 configuration folder of course (anyway I presume you don't use kde 4 ;)).
Another trick to transfer from kmail to another mail client as Evolution or another kmail is to save your mails by selecting all of them in any of the folder or subfolder you have and save them as one single mbox file (right-click/"save as" or ctrl+s, then give this one archive a name like the folder name where they are stored in your kmail mailbox, for instance). Then you can open this mbox archive list in the target mail client and store the mails in a target folder of your choice...
Hope it can give some more ways to save your mails ;)
See you
Pierre
Le dimanche 05 février 2012 à 23:19 +0000, Lisi a écrit :
Sorry - that is very charitable wording compared to what I deserve!
On Sunday 05 February 2012 22:14:30 pierre.lag6633@free.fr wrote:
In order to be able to help you, we probably need some more information. What is your client software for email ? Are you using kmail ?
Yes.
If so, I'd say it simply needs to copy the .kde/share/apps/kmail folder from Lenny/KDE to the .trinity/share/apps/kmail of Squeeze/TDE (that was what I done and it was all right) and you'll get your mails in kmail- trinity.
I copied Mail to Mail, as I had frequently done before. It would appear that that was what I had done incorrectly. Helped by faulty HDDs.
Maybe you will have to enter your account passwords again, but that will be all, to my sense.
I don't mind having to re-enter things like that! It is the emails and folder structure that I desperately want to carry over.
So some few questions
- how exactly did you "move" your emails ? (from and to folder names?)
Originally, /home/lisi/Mail to /home/lisi/Mail. That would appear to be at least part of my mistake, from what you say.
- is everything ok about your mails on your Lenny version, can you see
them all under kmail or whatever ?
Oh, yes. They are fine now. I lost a few emails, but that is all.
- is your user has the same name on both Lenny and Squeeze ?
Yes. I change as little as possible.
I think that you have already answered my basic question. I shall take great care to have at least four separate copies of /home, preferably five. And if I get stuck, appeal here. I just wondered whether I should be doing something by way of deliberately storing a copy of my emails in a special format for transfer.
All I have to decide now is whether to update this machine or get a move-on in rebuilding my desktop and start fresh on that with Squeeze.
Thank you very much, Pierre.
Lisi
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On Monday 06 February 2012 00:07:56 pierre.lag6633@free.fr wrote:
I forgot one (important) thing about the .kde to .trinity trick : for kmail not be lost with its configuration, you need to create a shortcut to ".trinity" folder with name ".kde" .
Aha! Now that I certainly didn't do!! As I said, I'll keep loads of copies and then howl for help if I need to!!
That works for any trinity application that uses the reference to .kde folder in a configuration file that has been copied from a KDE3 environment.
Yes, I have seen references to this. I had not transfered these references and applied them to my failure with KMail. I clearly should have.
I think that I was panicking at the time. We are a multi-computer household, and I am sysadmin for the lot. And almost all the computers decided to die within a very short time of each other, at a particularly awkward time.
You must be careful not to mess this up with some new KDE 4 configuration folder of course (anyway I presume you don't use kde 4 ;)).
I take elaborate precautions to avoid KDE4 as far as I possibly can. I most certainly do not use it!! But it is a pernicious beast.
Thanks again, Lisi
Am Montag, 6. Februar 2012 schrieb Lisi:
On Monday 06 February 2012 00:07:56 pierre.lag6633@free.fr wrote:
I forgot one (important) thing about the .kde to .trinity trick : for kmail not be lost with its configuration, you need to create a shortcut to ".trinity" folder with name ".kde" .
Aha! Now that I certainly didn't do!! As I said, I'll keep loads of copies and then howl for help if I need to!!
That works for any trinity application that uses the reference to .kde folder in a configuration file that has been copied from a KDE3 environment.
Yes, I have seen references to this. I had not transfered these references and applied them to my failure with KMail. I clearly should have.
I think that I was panicking at the time. We are a multi-computer household, and I am sysadmin for the lot. And almost all the computers decided to die within a very short time of each other, at a particularly awkward time.
You must be careful not to mess this up with some new KDE 4 configuration folder of course (anyway I presume you don't use kde 4 ;)).
I take elaborate precautions to avoid KDE4 as far as I possibly can. I most certainly do not use it!! But it is a pernicious beast.
Thanks again, Lisi
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First things first: Get your mail back! Log out of TDE. Go to a text console ( <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> ) and remove trinity configs: $ cd $ rm -Rf .trinity Back to X11, log in and walk through the wizard. Get the kmail config back: $ cp .kde/share/config/kmailrc .trinity/share/config/kmailrc $ cp -a .kde/share/apps/kmail .trinity/share/apps/ Fire up kmail, your mails should be here again.
I strongy recommend not to rename .kde to .trinity for two reasons: 1) there are references in some kde config files, that reference to .kde 2) there are some strange sideffects you'll run into after some time of usage that will make you want to start all over again.
If you make $ ln -s .kde .trinity you'll get rid of 1), but 2) will backstab you later.
Nik
On 02/05/2012 01:33 PM, Lisi wrote:
But I want my email; emails, folders and all.
You use Gmail; I assume you're accessing it via POP3 rather than IMAP? Set up a new account in your mail program, accessing the same Gmail account but by IMAP instead of POP3. Then copy all your local folders into that account (but turn off mail checking on the POP3 account first!). Then go to the new Squeeze/TDE machine and set up an IMAP account in the mail program there; it'll download your mail, folders and all, and you're done.
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