Kate Draven wrote:
andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 13:09:56 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 12:00:51 andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
I think that Konqueror is not a navigator
It used to be a superb one. For years it was my browser of
choice.
I'm asking myself how you can consider that Konqueror "is a superb one" navigator.
It depends on your definition of "navigator". Almost everything I do on my PC is done using Konqueror as a navigator to view/play/edit/run files/programs, local and remote - things no other web browser or file manager can do. While Konqueror is essentially my desktop and could get me anyhere I want/need to go, sometimes the menu or taskbar are faster/easier.
That said, it is frustrating that I can only use Konqueror to view websites I know it can handle. I still use Konqueror as a gateway browser ('open with Chromium') because there are enough of my regular sites that still work in Konqueror and I prefer the simpler/depreciated Google interface. Maybe I'm stubborn, but Iceweasel and Chromium are pigs and not something to leave running when you're using a Pi2 PC.
...It's probably a pipe dream, but it would be real nice if there were a way that I could have a whitelist of sites that would open in Konqueror with all others automatically opening in an external browser.
I agree, konqueror is an essential tool for me. I've written tons of servicemenus, to image,audio video conversion etc. All the sites I want to go to work well in konq. It's the sites that are overloaded with java scripts, flash etc that give it problems.
While that is the primary issue, even relatively simple sites (e.g. Wikipedia) have rendering issues.
It's safe gateway browser though. I have java and java script turned off in konq so I can examine a website before opening it in FF, SM, Opera. I don't use Chromium (Chrome) because I don't trust google anymore. That and it is a pig on resources.
Yeah, I have a hard time with anything Google these days (scary behemoth), but I've come to prefer Chromium over Iceweasel and haven't found anything else that works reliably (though it has been a while since I've used Opera).
In time I'm sure webkit or the like can be added to konq returning it to a great web browser as well. Patience in the key here.
I wish I had your optimism, I'm really amazed how little traction TDE has, even more so Konqueror - thanks in part to the Dolphin over Konqueror boondoggle. I don't know the current state, but the Konqueror webkit engine (option in KDE4?) wasn't reliably better. In any case, it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still finds Konqueror indispensable.
The latest Opera works very well. I don't think it is lighter than chromium as it now shares the same engine but overall it works very nicely. The latest beta incorporates adblocking and VPN. The adblocking seems to work pretty well but the VPN is still buggy.
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Dave Lers lists@dalrun.com wrote:
Kate Draven wrote:
andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 13:09:56 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 12:00:51 andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
I think that Konqueror is not a navigator
It used to be a superb one. For years it was my browser of
choice.
I'm asking myself how you can consider that Konqueror "is a superb one" navigator.
It depends on your definition of "navigator". Almost everything I do on my PC is done using Konqueror as a navigator to view/play/edit/run files/programs, local and remote - things no other web browser or file manager can do. While Konqueror is essentially my desktop and could get me anyhere I want/need to go, sometimes the menu or taskbar are faster/easier.
That said, it is frustrating that I can only use Konqueror to view websites I know it can handle. I still use Konqueror as a gateway browser ('open with Chromium') because there are enough of my regular sites that still work in Konqueror and I prefer the simpler/depreciated Google interface. Maybe I'm stubborn, but Iceweasel and Chromium are pigs and not something to leave running when you're using a Pi2 PC.
...It's probably a pipe dream, but it would be real nice if there were a way that I could have a whitelist of sites that would open in Konqueror with all others automatically opening in an external browser.
I agree, konqueror is an essential tool for me. I've written tons of servicemenus, to image,audio video conversion etc. All the sites I want to go to work well in konq. It's the sites that are overloaded with java scripts, flash etc that give it problems.
While that is the primary issue, even relatively simple sites (e.g. Wikipedia) have rendering issues.
It's safe gateway browser though. I have java and java script turned off in konq so I can examine a website before opening it in FF, SM, Opera. I don't use Chromium (Chrome) because I don't trust google anymore. That and it is a pig on resources.
Yeah, I have a hard time with anything Google these days (scary behemoth), but I've come to prefer Chromium over Iceweasel and haven't found anything else that works reliably (though it has been a while since I've used Opera).
In time I'm sure webkit or the like can be added to konq returning it to a great web browser as well. Patience in the key here.
I wish I had your optimism, I'm really amazed how little traction TDE has, even more so Konqueror - thanks in part to the Dolphin over Konqueror boondoggle. I don't know the current state, but the Konqueror webkit engine (option in KDE4?) wasn't reliably better. In any case, it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still finds Konqueror indispensable.
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On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice, and this saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something which hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server, since I can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice, and this saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something which hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server, since I can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
Konqueror with sftp:// (and kmail) are the reason I still have not converted my desktop to FreeBSD :-) Well, for www I use iceweasel (with far too many plugins zu make it usable) but for bookmarks I use konqueror ...
Nik
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice, and this saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something which hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server, since I can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
Konqueror with sftp:// (and kmail) are the reason I still have not converted my desktop to FreeBSD :-) Well, for www I use iceweasel (with far too many plugins zu make it usable) but for bookmarks I use konqueror ...
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice, and this saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something which hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server, since I can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
Konqueror with sftp:// (and kmail) are the reason I still have not converted my desktop to FreeBSD :-) Well, for www I use iceweasel (with far too many plugins zu make it usable) but for bookmarks I use konqueror ...
Yes. Konqueror, along with most? TDE apps, makes local and remote (sftp) activities pretty much indistinguishable. There's a bit more lag when scrolling through large remote images (open with kuickview), but I cannot tell the difference when playing remote videos with omxplayer (raspbian app). Another handy thing that comes to mind is Konqueror opening a remote file in Kate and then being able to click the Current document folder button to get the remote file tree in the Kate navigation panel (similar to a network tab bookmark in the Konqueror navigation panel).
For some reason I've been using Squirrelmail (webmail via Konqueror) for as long as I can remember. I also seem to be stuck on kpdf, preferring to drag and drop pdf links to Konqueror (from iceweasel works, from chromium doesn't).
While I really like the Konqueror bookmark interface - all the options seem more readily available/easier, e.g. click-browse-click to add a bookmark to the appropriate folder - I use a bookmarklet to add important links to a private website (my Konqueror homepage)... When you're browsing in Iceweasel, how do you add a bookmark in Konqueror?
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Dave Lers:
[...] While I really like the Konqueror bookmark interface - all the options seem more readily available/easier, e.g. click-browse-click to add a bookmark to the appropriate folder - I use a bookmarklet to add important links to a private website (my Konqueror homepage)... When you're browsing in Iceweasel, how do you add a bookmark in Konqueror?
Mark the address, RMB in conqueror window, <ctrl>B ... :-) I use zim-clip plugin for iceweasel as I use zim-wiki for almost everything, but I don't think it goes as a bookmark manager.
Nik
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