19 Nov
2014
19 Nov
'14
3:04 a.m.
I know this is off-topic, but some people have expressed extremely
strong opinions about systemd. I haven't been following all the posts on
that, so I hope this doesn't duplicate what has already been said, but
here is an article by the author of an alternative to systemd,
"uselessd".
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
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Steven
19 Nov
19 Nov
3:34 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 18:04:09 you wrote:
I know this is off-topic, but some people have
expressed extremely
strong opinions about systemd. I haven't been following all the posts
on that, so I hope this doesn't duplicate what has already been said,
but here is an article by the author of an alternative to systemd,
"uselessd".
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
I have had enough systemd disscussion elsewhere, and in more appropriate
locations..operating systems is where init choice is relevant.
TDE works on many distro's, choose one of your liking.
My vote is for a systemd free zone :-)
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Peace,
Greg
4:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
Seconded.
On 19 November 2014 14:34, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 18:04:09 you wrote:
I know this is off-topic, but some people have
expressed extremely
strong opinions about systemd. I haven't been following all the posts
on that, so I hope this doesn't duplicate what has already been said,
but here is an article by the author of an alternative to systemd,
"uselessd".
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
I have had enough systemd disscussion elsewhere, and in more appropriate
locations..operating systems is where init choice is relevant.
TDE works on many distro's, choose one of your liking.
My vote is for a systemd free zone :-)
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Peace,
Greg
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6:45 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
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Seconded.
Thirded. I thought I had put this to rest when I said that TDE would not
hard-depend on systemd. That doesn't mean that we won't add systemd
support at some point (IIRC there is a bug report open on this), it just
means that your friendly packagers can decide whether to switch it on or
leave it off, just the same as support for various other system components
such as HAL, udev, upower, etc. :-)
Tim
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11:27 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
I know this is off-topic, but some people have
expressed extremely
strong opinions about systemd. I haven't been following all the posts on
that, so I hope this doesn't duplicate what has already been said, but
here is an article by the author of an alternative to systemd,
"uselessd".
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
Yep. And the GR poll results in systemd. Well, my migration to FreeBSD is nearly done,
it's a pitty thatTDE is not available there. On the other hand, this gives me
motivation to get TDE running on BSD :-)
Nik
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3:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 11:27:35 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Yep. And the GR poll results in systemd. Well, my
migration to FreeBSD is
nearly done, it's a pitty thatTDE is not available there. On the other
hand, this gives me motivation to get TDE running on BSD :-)
Sorry to lose you - but I respect your choice. Given your views and the situation I fear
that you could make no other.
Power to your elbow in getting TDE running on BSD. :-) Which BSD, by the way??
Let's not lose you on the list!
Lisi
25 Nov
25 Nov
7:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 11:27:35 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
Hi Lisi!
Looks like you won't loose me so soon - still have wheezy + TDE for office work, and
customers will take quite some time to get moving.
I have my development and servers on FreeBSD 10.1 now, which was not a bad move: I always
had problems with my wired network (had to unload/reload the kernel module to get dhcp
working) - these are simply gone. And there is a handbook - I love that detail :-)
Currently I'm working on the lazy way to get TDE running: use the Linux emulation
layer. Let's see how that turns out.
Nik
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Yep. And the GR poll results in systemd. Well, my
migration to FreeBSD is
nearly done, it's a pitty thatTDE is not available there. On the other
hand, this gives me motivation to get TDE running on BSD :-)
Sorry to lose you - but I respect your choice. Given your views and the situation I fear
that you could make no other.
Power to your elbow in getting TDE running on BSD. :-) Which BSD, by the way??
Let's not lose you on the list!
Lisi
8:28 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
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Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
If there's anything we can do to help you get TDE running on FreeBSD
please just let us know. I know OpenBSD received quite a bit of work not
too long ago so perhaps TDE running natively on FreeBSD is within reach?
Thanks!
Tim
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 11:27:35 Dr.
Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi Lisi!
Looks like you won't loose me so soon - still have wheezy + TDE for office
work, and customers will take quite some time to get moving.
I have my development and servers on FreeBSD 10.1 now, which was not a bad
move: I always had problems with my wired network (had to unload/reload
the kernel module to get dhcp working) - these are simply gone. And there
is a handbook - I love that detail :-)
Currently I'm working on the lazy way to get TDE running: use the Linux
emulation layer. Let's see how that turns out.
Nik Yep. And the GR poll results in systemd. Well, my
migration to FreeBSD
is
nearly done, it's a pitty thatTDE is not
available there. On the other
hand, this gives me motivation to get TDE running on BSD :-)
Sorry to lose you - but I respect your choice. Given your views and the
situation I fear that you could make no other.
Power to your elbow in getting TDE running on BSD. :-) Which BSD, by
the way??
Let's not lose you on the list!
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20 Nov
20 Nov
1 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 02:27:35 you wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 schrieb Steven
D'Aprano:
Debian stable user.
I always test options. I have vm's of PCBSD 10.1..it is very usable
desktop, pre-configured. FreeBSD 10.1, takes time to configure it all,
both have most of the apps I use in GNU/Linux.
It seems these two BSD's have Gnome2 available..not going to Gnome3,
the latest KDE4 is included though. Other WM's are available...I use
Windowmaker when I first load something new.
Open Indiana, Illumos kernel/userland, is a continuation of Open
Solaris, not as well supported as a desktop...lots of features though.
Has KDE3.5 available
My main app is kdepim. Other office apps are more DE agnostic.
I will probably run Debian (Wheezy LTS) and TDE for a few more years. In
my tests of Jessie and TDE I did not even notice what init system was
installed, all working fine though.
--
Peace,
Greg
I know this is off-topic, but some people have
expressed extremely
strong opinions about systemd. I haven't been following all the
posts on that, so I hope this doesn't duplicate what has already
been said, but here is an article by the author of an alternative
to systemd, "uselessd".
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
Yep. And the GR poll results in systemd. Well, my migration to
FreeBSD is nearly done, it's a pitty thatTDE is not available there.
On the other hand, this gives me motivation to get TDE running on BSD
:-)
Nik 
24 Nov
24 Nov
2:45 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Off-topic: systemd
At first I didnt want to answer to this thread, I most always try to
avoid offtopic, but today I read this post on the sytemd topic from
the lkml :
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/12/459
I didnt write it myself but I agree with most every word; this guy
could find the exact words to say what I think, and what, probably,
many people think.
I thought i had to share it with you all.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 02:27:35 you wrote:
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Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 schrieb Steven
D'Aprano:
Debian stable user.
I always test options. I have vm's of PCBSD 10.1..it is very usable
desktop, pre-configured. FreeBSD 10.1, takes time to configure it all,
both have most of the apps I use in GNU/Linux.
It seems these two BSD's have Gnome2 available..not going to Gnome3,
the latest KDE4 is included though. Other WM's are available...I use
Windowmaker when I first load something new.
Open Indiana, Illumos kernel/userland, is a continuation of Open
Solaris, not as well supported as a desktop...lots of features though.
Has KDE3.5 available
My main app is kdepim. Other office apps are more DE agnostic.
I will probably run Debian (Wheezy LTS) and TDE for a few more years. In
my tests of Jessie and TDE I did not even notice what init system was
installed, all working fine though.
--
Peace,
Greg
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I know this is off-topic, but some people have
expressed extremely
strong opinions about systemd. I haven't been following all the
posts on that, so I hope this doesn't duplicate what has already
been said, but here is an article by the author of an alternative
to systemd, "uselessd".
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
Yep. And the GR poll results in systemd. Well, my migration to
FreeBSD is nearly done, it's a pitty thatTDE is not available there.
On the other hand, this gives me motivation to get TDE running on BSD
:-)
Nik
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