Hi Alexandre,
I've now got your live CD installed on my machine... I'm quite impressed though I do seem to have moments of very odd behaviour.
For instance I used "Network Center" to disconnect my wired ethernet prior to doing some other things. But didn't reconnect before I shut the machine down. Starting the machine up this evening I discover that I now have "Dolphin" started up and three instances of "Gkrellm" all on the same desktop. Most curious !
Things work mostly as I expect. Good work. Thankyou for sharing.
Sent from Trinity Kmail on PCLOS
From: baron@linuxmaniac.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:51:24 +0000 Subject: [trinity-users] PCLinuxOS Live CD
Hi Alexandre,
I've now got your live CD installed on my machine... I'm quite impressed though I do seem to have moments of very odd behaviour.
For instance I used "Network Center" to disconnect my wired ethernet prior to doing some other things. But didn't reconnect before I shut the machine down. Starting the machine up this evening I discover that I now have "Dolphin" started up and three instances of "Gkrellm" all on the same desktop. Most curious !
Things work mostly as I expect. Good work. Thankyou for sharing.
Sent from Trinity Kmail on PCLOS
-- Best Regards: Baron
Thank for trying my livecd! Yes, PCLOS have its small bugs too... I had a bug this week with the Network Center on my fully-updated system. There was no wifi spots in the wifi spot list, but when I right-click on the icon in the notification area, the list is there. PCLOS is still the one I prefer, but it is not always as stable as it was in the past.
From what I can see, TDE opens back the windows that were open when the computer was turned off, but maybe not all kinds of windows... These windows were probably opened just before you have turned off your computer. Maybe you have launched 3 times GKrellm?
Please click on reply from your email system on the message you want when you want to add something to a post, it will be easier to follow!
Thank you! -Alexandre
Hi Alexandre,
Comments in line.
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 22:04:28 Alexandre Couture wrote:
From: baron@linuxmaniac.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:51:24 +0000 Subject: [trinity-users] PCLinuxOS Live CD
Hi Alexandre,
I've now got your live CD installed on my machine... I'm quite impressed though I do seem to have moments of very odd behaviour.
For instance I used "Network Center" to disconnect my wired ethernet prior to doing some other things. But didn't reconnect before I shut the machine down. Starting the machine up this evening I discover that I now have "Dolphin" started up and three instances of "Gkrellm" all on the same desktop. Most curious !
Things work mostly as I expect. Good work. Thankyou for sharing.
Sent from Trinity Kmail on PCLOS
-- Best Regards: Baron
Thank for trying my livecd! Yes, PCLOS have its small bugs too... I had a bug this week with the Network Center on my fully-updated system. There was no wifi spots in the wifi spot list, but when I right-click on the icon in the notification area, the list is there. PCLOS is still the one I prefer, but it is not always as stable as it was in the past.
The wireless card in this machine is a dodo. Non of the Linux distributions detected it ! After trying it in another machine, I've since discovered that M$ Win doesn't detect it either.
From what I can see, TDE opens back the windows that were open when the computer was turned off, but maybe not all kinds of windows... These windows were probably opened just before you have turned off your computer. Maybe you have launched 3 times GKrellm?
Yes reopening windows that were left open is as far as I am aware quite normal. As far as GKrellm is concerned I run a single instance all the time and leave it running when I shut down, so I expect to see it when I start up. I was suprised to see three instances running. I do use three desktops though.
Please click on reply from your email system on the message you want when you want to add something to a post, it will be easier to follow!
Thank you! -Alexandre
I'm still setting things up the way I like. Thanks:
Hi Alexandre,
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 22:55:58 Baron wrote:
A couple of odd behaviours that have me puzzeled apart from the one I mentioned earlier, Dolphin and three instances of Gkrellm opening on startup.
That happened again this afternoon when I booted up. The spell checker doesn't appear to work in Kmail composer. The error message I get when I try to spellcheck manually is that ISpell/Aspell could not be started and to check path ?
The other issue is that all desktop icons and menu items cease to work. In short the desktop becomes unresponsive and attempting to logout fails with a hung screen although the mouse and keyboard still works.
A forced re-boot is required at this point.
HTH
From: baron@linuxmaniac.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:32:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] PCLinuxOS Live CD
Hi Alexandre,
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 22:55:58 Baron wrote:
A couple of odd behaviours that have me puzzeled apart from the one I mentioned earlier, Dolphin and three instances of Gkrellm opening on startup.
That happened again this afternoon when I booted up. The spell checker doesn't appear to work in Kmail composer. The error message I get when I try to spellcheck manually is that ISpell/Aspell could not be started and to check path ?
The other issue is that all desktop icons and menu items cease to work. In short the desktop becomes unresponsive and attempting to logout fails with a hung screen although the mouse and keyboard still works.
A forced re-boot is required at this point.
HTH
-- Best Regards: Baron
Hello Baron,
First, Merry Christmas!
I only use web-based mail services, except at work where I use Outlook on Windows, so I couldn't test Kmail that much. Can you go in Synaptic to check if the spellcheck programs you want are installed? I will try to test Kmail a little more when I will do my next livecd. (at the next release of TDE)
I have seen that sometimes, it takes a little longer (maybe 10 seconds longer) to log out, but I haven't seen it lock completely with all the desktop as you say. As on any linux system, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts or close the X server and Ctrl-Alt-Del reboots the computer the normal way. I don't know if these are TDE problems or if these are PCLOS problems. Did you had such problems in the past with a TDE system (as the Fedora livecd or your own installation...)?
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her? The biggest problem I see with linux is when the system don't boot properly because of HDD corruption and it drops you to a shell
Merry Christmas to everyone! -Alexandre
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:17:28 -0500 Alexandre Couture ac586133@hotmail.com wrote:
<SNIP>
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her?
The same exact thing she would do if she got a BSoD on M$ - she'd call someone she knew (hopefully) to help out.
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 14:17:28 Alexandre Couture wrote:
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her?
Giving birth doesn't turn us into useless automata who can't sort anything out for ourselves. ;-)
What _I_ would do, if it happened to me, is find out the solution, then go round all the people I support installing the solution on their boxes before the problem happened to them.
But, of course, I am a Mum not a Mom. Perhaps that makes all the difference. ;-)
Happy Christmas everybody!
Lisi
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 14:17:28 Alexandre Couture wrote:
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her?
Giving birth doesn't turn us into useless automata who can't sort anything out for ourselves. ;-)
What _I_ would do, if it happened to me, is find out the solution, then go round all the people I support installing the solution on their boxes before the problem happened to them.
But, of course, I am a Mum not a Mom. Perhaps that makes all the difference. ;-)
Happy Christmas everybody!
Lisi
Hi Lisi,
Of course, giving birth is not what makes the problem! Still, I think that if you go on the TDE website, it is because you have much much much more computer knowledge than my mother :)
By the way, is it Mom or Mum? English is not my primary language... Je parle en francais, mais je vis au Canada :)
Merry Christmas! -Alexandre
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 18:03:14 Alexandre Couture wrote:
By the way, is it Mom or Mum?
Depends on which side of the pond you live. Here in England it is Mum, in the United States it is Mom. In fact, the two spellings produce much the same sound as each other when pronounced in the different accents. ;-) I don't know which it is au Canada - chez vous I imagine it's Maman, n'est-ce pas?
English is not my primary language... Je parle en francais, mais je vis au Canada :)
Vive le Québec libre? ;-)
Lisi
Hi Guys,
First may I wish you all a slightly belated "Merry Christmas". I've not been at home for a couple of days.
Other comments below.
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 14:17:28 Alexandre Couture wrote:
From: baron@linuxmaniac.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:32:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] PCLinuxOS Live CD
Hi Alexandre,
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 22:55:58 Baron wrote:
A couple of odd behaviours that have me puzzeled apart from the one I mentioned earlier, Dolphin and three instances of Gkrellm opening on startup.
That happened again this afternoon when I booted up. The spell checker doesn't appear to work in Kmail composer. The error message I get when I try to spellcheck manually is that ISpell/Aspell could not be started and to check path ?
The other issue is that all desktop icons and menu items cease to work. In short the desktop becomes unresponsive and attempting to logout fails with a hung screen although the mouse and keyboard still works.
A forced re-boot is required at this point.
HTH
-- Best Regards: Baron
Hello Baron,
First, Merry Christmas!
I only use web-based mail services, except at work where I use Outlook on Windows, so I couldn't test Kmail that much. Can you go in Synaptic to check if the spellcheck programs you want are installed? I will try to test Kmail a little more when I will do my next livecd. (at the next release of TDE)
Synaptic confirms that both are installed and also the "gb" language module. Spell check works fine in "Libre Office".
I have seen that sometimes, it takes a little longer (maybe 10 seconds longer) to log out, but I haven't seen it lock completely with all the desktop as you say. As on any linux system, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts or close the X server and Ctrl-Alt-Del reboots the computer the normal way. I don't know if these are TDE problems or if these are PCLOS problems. Did you had such problems in the past with a TDE system (as the Fedora livecd or your own installation...)?
I've tried three live CD and yours is the only one I liked enough to actually install. Its actually on two other machines beloging to friends as well
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her? The biggest problem I see with linux is when the system don't boot properly because of HDD corruption and it drops you to a shell
Touch Wood ! I've not had any distribution suffer HDD corruption though I've had at least one HDD die on me during configuration. The manufacturer (WD) replaced it under warranty
Merry Christmas to everyone! -Alexandre
The biggest issue for me is the complete lack of response from the desktop clickable items, icons and menu. It seems to follow an extended browsing session using both Firefox and Chrome.
Synaptic confirms that both are installed and also the "gb" language module. Spell check works fine in "Libre Office".
Thinking about it, is it possible that the path to spell checkers could be configured somewhere in the Trinity Control Center or somewhere in Kmail? As I said, I use web-based mail service, so I don't know much these apps except for Outlook on Windows. I don't know if Mozilla Thunderbird can be good enough for you?
I've tried three live CD and yours is the only one I liked enough to actually install. Its actually on two other machines belonging to friends as well
Thank you! If there is some users, it means that it worth doing it! I have some ideas for the next version, such as removing Firefox and using Chromium in place of it, installing a media center (such as xbmc), making more superkaramba widget available by default and finding some good artwork to modernize the look of TDE. Have I said that I find horrible (and horribly old) the Crystal SVG icon theme and the general default theme? In my humble opinion, it is the single thing that is causing the most trouble to the TDE project, because nobody can talk against TDE in every other areas!
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her? The biggest problem I see with linux is when the system don't boot properly because of HDD corruption and it drops you to a shell
Touch Wood ! I've not had any distribution suffer HDD corruption though I've had at least one HDD die on me during configuration. The manufacturer (WD) replaced it under warranty
Okay, I'll touch wood! Promise! I use often my livecd installed on a sd card in my Asus EEE (first gen) and sd cards are not the most reliable things on earth concerning data corruption, even SanDisk ones... Lexar are not that bad, but generic ones are slow and unreliable...
The biggest issue for me is the complete lack of response from the desktop clickable items, icons and menu. It seems to follow an extended browsing session using both Firefox and Chrome.
I have not seen this bug yet! Is it happening to your friend's computers?
-Alexandre
Good Morning Alexandre, Well its about 11:50 here so that qualifies as morning. :-)
On Thursday 27 December 2012 23:20:23 Alexandre Couture wrote:
Synaptic confirms that both are installed and also the "gb" language module. Spell check works fine in "Libre Office".
Thinking about it, is it possible that the path to spell checkers could be configured somewhere in the Trinity Control Center or somewhere in Kmail? As I said, I use web-based mail service, so I don't know much these apps except for Outlook on Windows. I don't know if Mozilla Thunderbird can be good enough for you?
As far as I can tell, there is no path information anywhere in the Kmail application. I must confess that I have'nt a clue where the path information lives. I'll have to find out !
I've tried three live CD and yours is the only one I liked enough to actually install. Its actually on two other machines belonging to friends as well
Thank you! If there is some users, it means that it worth doing it! I have some ideas for the next version, such as removing Firefox and using Chromium in place of it, installing a media center (such as xbmc), making more superkaramba widget available by default and finding some good artwork to modernize the look of TDE. Have I said that I find horrible (and horribly old) the Crystal SVG icon theme and the general default theme? In my humble opinion, it is the single thing that is causing the most trouble to the TDE project, because nobody can talk against TDE in every other areas!
What puzzle me in that is always this question: What would Mom do if it would happen to her? The biggest problem I see with linux is when the system don't boot properly because of HDD corruption and it drops you to a shell
Touch Wood ! I've not had any distribution suffer HDD corruption though I've had at least one HDD die on me during configuration. The manufacturer (WD) replaced it under warranty
Okay, I'll touch wood! Promise! I use often my livecd installed on a sd card in my Asus EEE (first gen) and sd cards are not the most reliable things on earth concerning data corruption, even SanDisk ones... Lexar are not that bad, but generic ones are slow and unreliable...
Ah SD Cards. Now that I must agree with you. I've had numerous problems with data corruption on those. Same with CF cards. Mainly transfering pictures to and from my camera.
The biggest issue for me is the complete lack of response from the desktop clickable items, icons and menu. It seems to follow an extended browsing session using both Firefox and Chrome.
I have not seen this bug yet! Is it happening to your friend's computers?
I don't know at the moment ! One install was on Christmas day so its doubtfull that its even been played with yet. The other is on a machine somewhere in Scotland so I won't see the guy until they come back and thats not going to be until after hogmanay.
-Alexandre
So far I've not had any further problems.
One thing I have noticed and I don't know if its at the list end but I see two copies of my Email to the list. One with and one without the footer that is normally added. Both copies have the same date and time but different sizes. Obiously due to the added footer.
Oh, got to go dinner has been called...
Hi Alexandre,
On Friday 28 December 2012 12:11:50 Baron wrote:
Good Morning Alexandre,
One thing I have noticed and I don't know if its at the list end but I see two copies of my Email to the list. One with and one without the footer that is normally added. Both copies have the same date and time but different sizes. Obiously due to the added footer.
I have found the reason for the two aparent Emails to the list ! Kmail is not placing the "Sent Mail" copy in the correct folder. Its putting the copy in the "Trinity" folder, making it appear that the mail gets sent twice.
-
Alexandre Couture -
Baron -
Baron＠linuxmaniac.net
-
FTW -
Lisi Reisz