15 Jan
2011
15 Jan
'11
8:40 p.m.
Updated ISO (exelinux_squeeze_trinity_gpl_1.1.iso) is done. The
installer should now work properly.
New URL :
wget -c
"http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/trinity/exelinux_squeeze_trinity_gpl_1.1.iso"
md5sum:
wget -c
"http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/trinity/md5sum_exelinux_squeeze_trinity_gpl_1.1.txt"
The patch worked on the old ISO. It will stay in place till the new is
tested a bit more.
15 Jan
15 Jan
7:32 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
David Hare wrote:
Updated ISO (exelinux_squeeze_trinity_gpl_1.1.iso) is
done. The
installer should now work properly.
New URL :
wget -c
"http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/trinity/exelinux_squeeze_trinity_gpl_1.1.iso"
md5sum:
wget -c
"http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/trinity/md5sum_exelinux_squeeze_trinity_gpl_1.1.txt"
The patch worked on the old ISO. It will stay in place till the new is
tested a bit more.
David, I'll keep an eye on this tried but after installing your latest
iso, the good is it did set up my user ok.
The bad is when I logout things go black and I have to press and hold
the power button to shutdown or reboot, nothing else will work, using
SMXI to install the nvidia driver did not help.
I had to add "gksu synaptic" to the menu to get synaptic to start, just
using "run as a different user" did not work.
Using the su filemanager to edit a config file is a pain because I have
to keep telling it what app to use and clicking the box to save the
settings is not working.
Also, not a big problem, using wallpaper.svg is not displaying proper,
the image is all black, possibly can be fixed by adding a svg package, I
don't know for sure.
I know all most of this stuff is inherited from Trinity and not your
fault, but I just can't use this system the way it is, maybe you can
play with it and get some of the stuff fixed, if you need some info from
me or want me to test some stuff just let me know.
I mentioned adding http://debian-multimedia.org/ to the repos, you may
want to add http://security.debian.org/ to the list too.
Thanks,
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Squeeze RC-1 EXT4 64-Bit at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263
16 Jan
16 Jan
10:53 a.m.
New subject: ATTN: Tim - Trinity Squeeze Install
First I don't know what I'm talking about. :-)
But, I'm setting here wondering if you could get a better build for
Squeeze if you used the kde3 sources from Debian Lenny and compiled them
for Squeeze ? Is it possible ?
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Squeeze 64-Bit EXT4 at sda9
Registered Linux User #380263
2:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] ATTN: Tim - Trinity Squeeze Install
Am Sonntag, 16. Januar 2011 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
First I don't know what I'm talking about.
:-)
But, I'm setting here wondering if you could get a better build for
Squeeze if you used the kde3 sources from Debian Lenny and compiled them
for Squeeze ? Is it possible ?
KDE3 for Debian Lenny has some unresoved issues with multiheaded setups. One
would have to go with the sources from the last snapshot of testing that
contined KDE3 - and that was 28 Mar 2009 ...
6:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] ATTN: Tim - Trinity Squeeze Install
On Sun January 16 2011 06:48:14 Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Sonntag, 16. Januar 2011 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
That's one bug. There are several new bugs in Trinity relative to Lenny,
so I think JJ may have a good idea. OTOH, Trinity has some new features
(e.g. randr) relative to Lenny KDE3.5, and Tim has done a lot of work to
avoid conflicts between Trinity and KDE SC4 packaging.
I don't know if Tim's work is such that his new features and bugfixes can
be easily cherry-picked and applied to Lenny KDE3.5.
KDE 3.5: 9/10
Trinity: 8/10
KDE 4.4: 2/10
These regressions may well be because Trinity was based on Ubuntu rather
than Debian.
--Mike Bird
But, I'm setting here wondering if you could
get a better build for
Squeeze if you used the kde3 sources from Debian Lenny and compiled them
for Squeeze ? Is it possible ?
KDE3 for Debian Lenny has some unresoved issues with multiheaded setups.
One would have to go with the sources from the last snapshot of testing(e.g.
that contined KDE3 - and that was 28 Mar 2009 ... 
8:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] ATTN: Tim - Trinity Squeeze Install
First I don't know what I'm talking about.
:-)
But, I'm setting here wondering if you could get a better build for
Squeeze if you used the kde3 sources from Debian Lenny and compiled them
for Squeeze ? Is it possible ?
No. Too much has changed. This is the reason for the Trinity project; to
keep KDE3 compilable and usable on modern systems.
Tim
17 Jan
17 Jan
5:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
The bad is when I logout things go black and I have to
press and hold the
power button to shutdown or reboot, nothing else will work, using SMXI to
install the nvidia driver did not help.
The live CD has a stock Squeeze kernel and nothing is modified in core
system areas. Some packages might be missing though.
Some machines might need firmware-linux-nonfree.
This sounds like a "nouveau" issue (some info on smxi forums). Try
adding "nomodeset 3" on grub kernel boot options line. It will boot
without X, then you can run sgfxi for nvidia.
I had to add "gksu synaptic" to the menu to get synaptic to start, just
using "run as a different user" did not work.
The kmenu was rearranged for this live build.. Root apps (including
synaptic) are in system> root application.
There are some kdesudo-trinity related issues (and fixes), see other threads.
I included a (optional) post-install script to remove kdesudo
altogether and automatically fix the menu to use kdesu
Using the su filemanager to edit a config file is a
pain because I have to
keep telling it what app to use and clicking the box to save the settings is
not working.
kdesu/kdesudo kwrite. Has own filebrowser dialogue
Also, not a big problem, using wallpaper.svg is not
displaying proper, the
image is all black, possibly can be fixed by adding a svg package, I don't
know for sure.
There is a limit to what can be squashed to 700MB! (e.g. a full
Trinity install) . Please note also aptitude is missing, add yourself
if wanted (I use only apt-get)
I know all most of this stuff is inherited from
Trinity and not your fault,
but I just can't use this system the way it is, maybe you can play with it
and get some of the stuff fixed, if you need some info from me or want me to
test some stuff just let me know.
I mentioned adding http://debian-multimedia.org/ to the repos, you may want
to add http://security.debian.org/ to the list too.
debian-multimedia breaks stuff (vlc....) and has legal issues.. please
add yourself if you need it
security.debian.org.. goes in later when Squeeze is stable
7:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
David Hare wrote:
See above where I said I had already installed the nvidia driver and it
did not help!
That stuff is part of a working desktop system, they are not optional
and I don't see any of those problems my Debian installs!
Other distros add debian-multimedia they just leave it remarked out. As
far as it breaking Squeeze, this is the first I've heard, if you have
some bugs it would help to report them!
Security.debian is working now, volatile is what is not working the last
time I checked!
I'm not here to have a pissing contest with you, have fun with your cd,
I won't be testing it any more!
Regards,
--
Jimmy Johnson
SimplyMEPIS 11.0 RC-1 EXT4 64-Bit at sda2
Registered Linux User #380263
The bad is
when I logout things go black and I have to press and hold the
power button to shutdown or reboot, nothing else will work, using SMXI to
install the nvidia driver did not help.
The live CD has a stock Squeeze kernel and nothing is modified in core
system areas. Some packages might be missing though.
Some machines might need firmware-linux-nonfree.
This sounds like a "nouveau" issue (some info on smxi forums). Try
adding "nomodeset 3" on grub kernel boot options line. It will boot
without X, then you can run sgfxi for nvidia.
I had to add
"gksu synaptic" to the menu to get synaptic to start, just
using "run as a different user" did not work.
The kmenu was rearranged for this live build.. Root apps (including
synaptic) are in system> root application.
There are some kdesudo-trinity related issues (and fixes), see other threads.
I included a (optional) post-install script to remove kdesudo
altogether and automatically fix the menu to use kdesu
Using the su filemanager to edit a config file is
a pain because I have to
keep telling it what app to use and clicking the box to save the settings is
not working.
kdesu/kdesudo kwrite. Has own filebrowser dialogue
Also, not a big problem, using wallpaper.svg is
not displaying proper, the
image is all black, possibly can be fixed by adding a svg package, I don't
know for sure.
There is a limit to what can be squashed to 700MB! (e.g. a full
Trinity install) . Please note also aptitude is missing, add yourself
if wanted (I use only apt-get)
I know all
most of this stuff is inherited from Trinity and not your fault,
but I just can't use this system the way it is, maybe you can play with it
and get some of the stuff fixed, if you need some info from me or want me to
test some stuff just let me know.
I mentioned adding http://debian-multimedia.org/ to the repos, you may want
to add http://security.debian.org/ to the list too.
debian-multimedia breaks stuff (vlc....) and has legal issues.. please
add yourself if you need it
security.debian.org.. goes in later when Squeeze is stable
8:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
David Hare wrote:
See above where I said I had already installed the nvidia driver and it
did not help!
That stuff is part of a working desktop system, they are not optional
and I don't see any of those problems my Debian installs!
Other distros add debian-multimedia they just leave it remarked out. As
far as it breaking Squeeze, this is the first I've heard, if you have
some bugs it would help to report them!
Security.debian is working now, volatile is what is not working the last
time I checked!
I'm not here to have a pissing contest with you, have fun with your cd,
I won't be testing it any more!
Regards,
--
Jimmy Johnson
SimplyMEPIS 11.0 RC-1 EXT4 64-Bit at sda2
Registered Linux User #380263
Just a friendly reminder to please keep it civil on these lists.
Also, I know from experience how difficult it is to squash the filesystem
down to 700MB. I would recommend using deborphan to see if there are any
extra libraries that can be removed.
Tim
The bad
is when I logout things go black and I have to press and hold
the
power button to shutdown or reboot, nothing else will work, using SMXI
to
install the nvidia driver did not help.
The live CD has a stock Squeeze kernel and nothing is modified in core
system areas. Some packages might be missing though.
Some machines might need firmware-linux-nonfree.
This sounds like a "nouveau" issue (some info on smxi forums). Try
adding "nomodeset 3" on grub kernel boot options line. It will boot
without X, then you can run sgfxi for nvidia.
I had to
add "gksu synaptic" to the menu to get synaptic to start, just
using "run as a different user" did not work.
The kmenu was rearranged for this live build.. Root apps (including
synaptic) are in system> root application.
There are some kdesudo-trinity related issues (and fixes), see other
threads.
I included a (optional) post-install script to remove kdesudo
altogether and automatically fix the menu to use kdesu
Using the su filemanager to edit a config file is
a pain because I have
to
keep telling it what app to use and clicking the box to save the
settings is
not working.
kdesu/kdesudo kwrite. Has own filebrowser dialogue
Also, not a big problem, using wallpaper.svg is
not displaying proper,
the
image is all black, possibly can be fixed by adding a svg package, I
don't
know for sure.
There is a limit to what can be squashed to 700MB! (e.g. a full
Trinity install) . Please note also aptitude is missing, add yourself
if wanted (I use only apt-get)
I know
all most of this stuff is inherited from Trinity and not your
fault,
but I just can't use this system the way it is, maybe you can play with
it
and get some of the stuff fixed, if you need some info from me or want
me to
test some stuff just let me know.
I mentioned adding http://debian-multimedia.org/ to the repos, you may
want
to add http://security.debian.org/ to the list too.
debian-multimedia breaks stuff (vlc....) and has legal issues.. please
add yourself if you need it
security.debian.org.. goes in later when Squeeze is stable
18 Jan
18 Jan
8:22 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
Lisi wrote:
On Monday 17 January 2011 19:55:38 Jimmy Johnson
wrote:
Hi Lisi,
*B*ut your better forks do, I test Linux distros and then give reports
back on how they can be made better, that's what I do, I lot of
developers don't have multiple computers to test their distro and I do,
most developers see value in this and then I work with them, sometimes
over the phone, to make a better distro, but as you can see some get
defensive or offensive, maybe some don't have the ability to make things
better, I don't know, but, I can't help them if there is no discussion.
I know you from the debian-user list where you are quite active, nice to
see you here, did you find your recording software?
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Squeeze Beta-2 - KDE 4.5.3 - EXT4 at sda7
Registered Linux User #380263
Other distros add debian-multimedia they just
leave it remarked out.
Debian doesn't. I always have to add it.
Lisi
2:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 08:22:16 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
I know you from the debian-user list where you are
quite active, nice to
see you here, did you find your recording software?
Yes, I had noticed a friendly name.
I have a short list. But I have been waiting for my husband to go away before
potentially kyboshing his box.
Hopefully, I shall get the whole thing installed and working in a short time,
but realisticaly it is likely to take me ages. I have to understand what is
happening in order for me to be able to show him.
I and my husband are both still using Lenny, in order to avoid that *^&"$* KDE
4. So I am intending to use the computer he used last time to record his
book to test out Squeeze and Trinity.
Lisi
9:12 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Squeeze/Trinity Live CD
Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 08:22:16 Jimmy Johnson
wrote:
Looking forward, I say why can't we use the DM we are used to, for me it
was KDE3, I've been using it since version 2, but, I was at the KDE4
release in Mountain View, CA and have been testing KDE4 since day one
and fighting with one bug or another since up to version 4.5 and now
it's looking real good, to bad Debian froze at 4.4 it is buggy, but 4.5
is an easy install http://qt-kde.debian.net/ and SimplyMepis 11.0 based
on Debian Squeeze is using 4.5. and It's a Live DVD, you should check
it out. http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06449
Regards,
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Squeeze RC-1 - KDE 4.5.3 - EXT4 at sda7
Registered Linux User #380263
I know you from the debian-user list where you
are quite active, nice to
see you here, did you find your recording software?
Yes, I had noticed a friendly name.
I have a short list. But I have been waiting for my husband to go away before
potentially kyboshing his box.
Hopefully, I shall get the whole thing installed and working in a short time,
but realisticaly it is likely to take me ages. I have to understand what is
happening in order for me to be able to show him.
I and my husband are both still using Lenny, in order to avoid that *^&"$* KDE
4. So I am intending to use the computer he used last time to record his
book to test out Squeeze and Trinity.
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