7 Mar
2015
7 Mar
'15
7:04 p.m.
Lets face it, iceweasal is 10,000% more browser than konqueror.
Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
If it runs long enough, I can switch to iceweasal in its file pulldown,
but 75% of the time I am looking at its crash report popup, which for
the purposes of registering a bug report is worthless because the debug
symbols are not compiled in. So the report it does file is basically
konqueror crashed, no further details. Those I believe must get routed
to /dev/null since not one of them over the last 5+ years has ever
resulted in a reply (from anyone) asking for further details.
Thanks folks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
7 Mar
7 Mar
8:33 p.m.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
Those I believe must get routed
to /dev/null since not one of them over the last 5+ years has ever
resulted in a reply (from anyone) asking for further details.
What have the last five years got to do with TDE?
Lisi
9:04 p.m.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to
iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
Gene -
I know that you don't like cracking books, but could you just _try_, just
once, to RTFM or STFW??
Anyway,
KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE components in
14. I am on my desktop.
Not everything that you have a problem with is a bug. You could always do
some coding and offer patches along with all these "bugs" you keep finding
everywhere in everything.
And I don't like Iceweasel. So it isn't 10000% better than any other browser.
You like it. That's fine. But don't diss everything that you don't like.
Why not just say:
How do I change the default browser in KMail from Konqueror to Iceweasel?
Lisi
9:43 p.m.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett
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On the other hand the users mailing list is for users *of all levels* to
interact--that includes asking basic questions like these. A gentle
pointer to the documentation along with the answer to the question is a
much better response--if the documentation is good enough then over time
people will start looking there first and asking here second. If not (and
this was the case for much of KDE and TDE's life) then people will
logically ask here first. ;-)
Tim
Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer
to iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
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10:04 p.m.
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For many, many years, I have also had trouble with Konquerer crashing all
the time. This is the case on TDE and KDE, and on every distro I have
used, which is a lot of them.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net
wrote:
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett
wrote:
On the other hand the users mailing list is for users *of all levels* to
interact--that includes asking basic questions like these. A gentle
pointer to the documentation along with the answer to the question is a
much better response--if the documentation is good enough then over time
people will start looking there first and asking here second. If not (and
this was the case for much of KDE and TDE's life) then people will
logically ask here first. ;-)
Tim
Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer
to iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 21:43:57 Timothy Pearson wrote:
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Sorry. Granted. I was referring to history and elsewhere. Inappropriate.
Sorry to the list and to Gene.
On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett
wrote:
On the other hand the users mailing list is for users *of all levels* to
interact--that includes asking basic questions like these. Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer
to iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
Gene -
I know that you don't like cracking books, but could you just _try_, just
once, to RTFM or STFW?? A gentle
pointer to the documentation along with the answer to the question
In self-defence, I did give him the answer!
Lisi
is a
much better response--if the documentation is good enough then over time
people will start looking there first and asking here second. If not (and
this was the case for much of KDE and TDE's life) then people will
logically ask here first. ;-)
Tim
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Yes you did; my keyword there was *gentle*.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 21:43:57 Timothy Pearson
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No problem, just a heads-up. :-)
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Sorry. Granted. I was referring to history and elsewhere.
Inappropriate.
Sorry to the list and to Gene. On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett
wrote:
just
Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer
to iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
Gene -
I know that you don't like cracking books, but could you just _try_, once, to RTFM or STFW??
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interact--that includes asking basic questions like these. A gentle
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10:24 p.m.
New subject: Google-foo and TDE was:Re: [trinity-users] next problem, konqueror's 75% crash rate when clicking on an http link in kmail
On Saturday 07 March 2015 21:43:57 Timothy Pearson wrote:
STFW??
The main problem I have found with doing this in relation to TDE is avoiding
KDE4. I rarely succeed. I either get nothing or, if I add KDE3, pages of
KDE4, no matter if I put -KDE4 in my search string.
So I rarely find answers on the web. Any suggestions as to how I can improve
my Google-foo in this regard?
Lisi
8 Mar
8 Mar
1:07 a.m.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 01:24:13 pm Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 07 March 2015 21:43:57 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
Use Trinity Desktop instead of TDE, my brief search for using either of those
in a search string along with Konqueror produces KDE results using TDE and
relevant results using Trinity Desktop.
I have never searched the web for answers to TDE issues.. so ymmv.
--
Peace,
Greg
STFW??
The main problem I have found with doing this in relation to TDE is
avoiding KDE4. I rarely succeed. I either get nothing or, if I add KDE3,
pages of KDE4, no matter if I put -KDE4 in my search string.
So I rarely find answers on the web. Any suggestions as to how I can
improve my Google-foo in this regard?
Lisi 
1:20 a.m.
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 22:24:13 +0000
Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday 07 March 2015 21:43:57 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
Quote marks help--entering "kde3" -"kde4" into Google gets me correct
search
results at the moment.
Clicking the "Verbatim" link in the left sidebar turns off a lot of Google's
attempts
to (wrongly) reinterpret your search results.
Or switch to duckduckgo.com , which interprets searches the way a technically
adept person would expect. These days I tend to go there first, rather than
to Google.
E. Liddell
STFW??
The main problem I have found with doing this in relation to TDE is avoiding
KDE4. I rarely succeed. I either get nothing or, if I add KDE3, pages of
KDE4, no matter if I put -KDE4 in my search string.
So I rarely find answers on the web. Any suggestions as to how I can improve
my Google-foo in this regard? 
7 Mar
7 Mar
10:23 p.m.
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Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett
wrote:
> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal when
KControl -> KDE components -> File associations.
Probably TDE
components in
Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
Associations :-).
And I don't like Iceweasel. So it isn't
10000% better than any other
browser.
It depends on what you are browsing - sftp://, man:/, etc. Pretty much
the only thing Konqueror cannot browse is resource hungry web sites.
While I'd love to see that change, I'm not holding my breath. Despite
that, Konqueror remains my primary desktop application because I can
do/start anything with/from Konqueror.
10:46 p.m.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 22:23:33 Dave Lers wrote:
I used to use and love Konqueror. For years. But it has become unbearably
slow for me. Probably some config I have got somewhere, but it is really
painful. So I now no longer use it on the web, only on my desktop.
Lisi
And I
don't like Iceweasel. So it isn't 10000% better than any other
browser.
It depends on what you are browsing - sftp://, man:/, etc. Pretty much
the only thing Konqueror cannot browse is resource hungry web sites.
While I'd love to see that change, I'm not holding my breath. Despite
that, Konqueror remains my primary desktop application because I can
do/start anything with/from Konqueror.
11:59 p.m.
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As you've probably guessed fixing this is very hard. It would require
integrating a different browser engine (such as Webkit) into a Konqueror
plugin while retaining the functionality of the KHTML plugin. While much
of the groundwork has been laid to allow Webkit integration no one has
stepped up to put a prototype together at this time.
Tim
On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett
wrote:
> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal when
KControl -> KDE components -> File
associations. Probably TDE
components in
Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
Associations :-).
And I don't like Iceweasel. So it isn't
10000% better than any other
browser.
It depends on what you are browsing - sftp://, man:/, etc. Pretty much
the only thing Konqueror cannot browse is resource hungry web sites.
While I'd love to see that change, I'm not holding my breath. Despite
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9 Mar
2:38 a.m.
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On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal
>>> when
>>
>> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE
>> components in
>
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to the
last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I missed that
exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on. And it
always needs to kill a script according to a different popup.
> Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components
> File Associations
>
> From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> Associations :-).
>
>> And I don't like Iceweasel. So it isn't 10000% better than any
>> other browser.
The latest version of iceweasel is considerably more stable that the one
it replaced about a week back. That one, I agree, was pretty bad.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
2:51 a.m.
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On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
~>file associations>text>html, works here.
--
Peace,
Greg
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal
>>> when
>>
>> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE
>> components in
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to the
last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I missed that
exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on. And it
always needs to kill a script according to a different popup.
> > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
> >
> > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> > Associations :-).
2:59 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 02:51:17 Greg Madden wrote:
On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett
wrote:
Have you tried typing .html in in the window at the top rather than
finding .html in the list? And rather than worrying about moving Konqueror
to the bottom have you moved Iceweasel to the top?
Lisi
On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
~>file associations>text>html, works here. > Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal
>>> when
>>
>> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE
>> components in
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to the
last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I missed that
exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on. And it
always needs to kill a script according to a different popup.
> > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
> >
> > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> > Associations :-).
3:25 a.m.
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On Sunday 08 March 2015 22:59:02 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 09 March 2015 02:51:17 Greg Madden wrote:
I have now, thanks to Greg, who pointed out that html, for some reason
known only to the creators of that list, actually comes under the "text"
link. With reasoning like that, its NDW I couldn't find it!
Cheers Lisi, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett
wrote:
Have you tried typing .html in in the window at the top rather than
finding .html in the list? And rather than worrying about moving
Konqueror to the bottom have you moved Iceweasel to the top?
Lisi On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
~>file associations>text>html, works here. > Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to
>>> iceweasal when
>>
>> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably
>> TDE components in
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to
the last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I
missed that exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on.
And it always needs to kill a script according to a different
popup.
> > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File
> > Associations
> >
> > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> > Associations :-).
4:47 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 03:25:25 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 08 March 2015 22:59:02 Lisi Reisz wrote:
It's easy in fact to find it - just type html into the window and let it find
it. That is obviously what ione is meant to do!!
Lisi
On Monday 09 March 2015 02:51:17 Greg Madden
wrote:
I have now, thanks to Greg, who pointed out that html, for some reason
known only to the creators of that list, actually comes under the "text"
link. With reasoning like that, its NDW I couldn't find it! On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett
wrote:
Have you tried typing .html in in the window at the top rather than
finding .html in the list? And rather than worrying about moving
Konqueror to the bottom have you moved Iceweasel to the top?
Lisi On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
> > Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to
> >>> iceweasal when
> >>
> >> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably
> >> TDE components in
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to
the last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I
missed that exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on.
And it always needs to kill a script according to a different
popup.
> > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File
> > Associations
> >
> > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> > Associations :-).
~>file associations>text>html, works here.
4:58 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 00:47:24 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 09 March 2015 03:25:25 Gene Heskett wrote:
I'll also have to plead that I didn't realize that the little box to the
left, was in fact a search string entry point.
I am fighting with water in the basement at the same time, and I'll admit
that is distracting. I threw money at it this evening, and will have to
throw some more at it over the next couple days to get what I brought
home installed.
Cheers Lisi, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Sunday 08 March 2015 22:59:02 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
It's easy in fact to find it - just type html into the window and let
it find it. That is obviously what ione is meant to do!!
Lisi On Monday 09 March 2015 02:51:17 Greg Madden
wrote:
I have now, thanks to Greg, who pointed out that html, for some
reason known only to the creators of that list, actually comes under
the "text" link. With reasoning like that, its NDW I couldn't find
it! On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett
wrote:
> On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > > Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to
> > >>> iceweasal when
> > >>
> > >> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations.
> > >> Probably TDE components in
>
> I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top
> choice to the last choice in 5 or 6 different associations.
> Perhaps I missed that exact one? There is no "html" anyplace
> in the list.
>
> No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click
> on. And it always needs to kill a script according to a
> different popup.
>
> > > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File
> > > Associations
> > >
> > > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components >
> > > File Associations :-).
~>file associations>text>html, works here.
Have you tried typing .html in in the window at the top rather
than finding .html in the list? And rather than worrying about
moving Konqueror to the bottom have you moved Iceweasel to the
top?
Lisi
5:13 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 04:58:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 09 March 2015 00:47:24 Lisi Reisz wrote:
:-) Been there, done that, worn the tee shirt. :-( Old age? Fading
eyesight? Well, those are my excuses and I'm sticking to them. ;-) But I
don't think we can blame the software designers for our failing
faculties. ;-)
On Monday 09 March 2015 03:25:25 Gene Heskett
wrote:
I'll also have to plead that I didn't realize that the little box to the
left, was in fact a search string entry point. On Sunday 08 March 2015 22:59:02 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
It's easy in fact to find it - just type html into the window and let
it find it. That is obviously what ione is meant to do!!
Lisi On Monday 09 March 2015 02:51:17 Greg Madden
wrote:
> On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > > > Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > >> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to
> > > >>> iceweasal when
> > > >>
> > > >> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations.
> > > >> Probably TDE components in
> >
> > I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top
> > choice to the last choice in 5 or 6 different associations.
> > Perhaps I missed that exact one? There is no "html" anyplace
> > in the list.
> >
> > No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click
> > on. And it always needs to kill a script according to a
> > different popup.
> >
> > > > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File
> > > > Associations
> > > >
> > > > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components >
> > > > File Associations :-).
>
> ~>file associations>text>html, works here.
Have you tried typing .html in in the window at the top rather
than finding .html in the list? And rather than worrying about
moving Konqueror to the bottom have you moved Iceweasel to the
top?
Lisi
I have now, thanks to Greg, who pointed out that html, for some
reason known only to the creators of that list, actually comes under
the "text" link. With reasoning like that, its NDW I couldn't find
it!
I am fighting with water in the basement at the same time, and I'll admit
that is distracting. I threw money at it this evening, and will have to
throw some more at it over the next couple days to get what I brought
home installed.
:-( Life. It will intrude. :-(
Lisi
7:08 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 01:13:03 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Yes. Now I wish I could get some sleep. 3AM local and I'm rolling and
tossing, trying to find a comfy position for my arthritic back yet. Had
to get up, and I've heard that a good geek, up in the middle of the
night for whatever reason, is obligated to check his email before going
back to bed. Part of the geek contract I've heard. :) Like you, I'll
stick to it. ;-)
Cheers Lisi, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Monday 09 March 2015 04:58:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
I hear that!
On Monday 09 March 2015 00:47:24 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
I'll also have to plead that I didn't realize that the little box to
the left, was in fact a search string entry point.
:-) Been there, done that, worn the tee shirt. :-( Old age? Fading
eyesight? Well, those are my excuses and I'm sticking to them. ;-) But I don't think we can blame the software
designers for our failing
faculties. ;-)
It would have been a bit more obvious had it been above the right pane of
the little window. Then the mental connection would have been a lot more
automatic. I have done some gui's on older machines that had far fewer
colors available, and there is a huge difference in the perception
of "user friendly" when seemingly tiny details like that are attended
to.
I am fighting
with water in the basement at the same time, and I'll
admit that is distracting. I threw money at it this evening, and
will have to throw some more at it over the next couple days to get
what I brought home installed.
:-( Life. It will intrude. :-(
9:44 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 07:08:18 Gene Heskett wrote:
It would have been a bit more obvious had it been
above the right pane of
the little window. Then the mental connection would have been a lot more
automatic. I have done some gui's on older machines that had far fewer
colors available, and there is a huge difference in the perception
of "user friendly" when seemingly tiny details like that are attended
to.
File it as a wish bug. This lot really listen - within the limits of there
being very few of them, so they can't react fast. I agree about on the top
left being hard to see - one of the shops I use regularly has moved its
search window to the top left and I miss it at first every time.
Could you code it and submit a patch along with the big report? Especially if
you have done GUIs in the past.
Lisi
9:46 a.m.
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Could you code it and submit a patch along with the bUg report? Especially
if you have done GUIs in the past.
12:08 p.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 05:44:38 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 09 March 2015 07:08:18 Gene Heskett wrote:
There is a huge difference between coding up a gui for Nitros9 on an old
TRS-80 Color Computer 3, and coding up something in glade or pyvcp.
Sure, I've added some buttons and such to the axis gui for linuxcnc, but
that was by copy/pasting an example from the wiki, submitted by somebody
who actually knew what they were doing. If I needed to modify it, I had
to msg the author for suggestions. Hooking the button up to actually do
something useful, such as telling spindle servo's P.I.D. component
whether the lathes backgear was in low or high OTOH, was up to me.
If carving up that panel in steel, plastic, or even wood, gcode is half a
day to write & execute it to make it, on my cnc controlled milling
machine.
I'd have to spend months getting familiar with QT before I could grok the
code that makes that TCC window now. So I'll just say it should be put
on the wish list for R15 & let it be. Whomever wrote that code, could I
expect move it, and compile test it in <10 minutes. 10 more to submit
the patch. Done. My first attempt would probably poison the
neighborhood cats. :(
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
It would have been a bit more obvious had it been
above the right
pane of the little window. Then the mental connection would have
been a lot more automatic. I have done some gui's on older machines
that had far fewer colors available, and there is a huge difference
in the perception of "user friendly" when seemingly tiny details
like that are attended to.
File it as a wish bug. This lot really listen - within the limits of
there being very few of them, so they can't react fast. I agree about
on the top left being hard to see - one of the shops I use regularly
has moved its search window to the top left and I miss it at first
every time.
Could you code it and submit a patch along with the big report?
Especially if you have done GUIs in the past.
Lisi
3:21 a.m.
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On Sunday 08 March 2015 22:51:17 Greg Madden wrote:
On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett
wrote:
Ahh. Seems to have fixed it. But since this is html, who normally would
associate that with text? Mind boggling.
Thank you very much Greg.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
~>file associations>text>html, works here. > Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal
>>> when
>>
>> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE
>> components in
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to
the last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I missed
that exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on. And
it always needs to kill a script according to a different popup.
> > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
> >
> > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> > Associations :-).
3:28 a.m.
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On Monday 09 March 2015 03:21:55 Gene Heskett wrote:
But since this is html, who normally would
associate that with text?
I agree - but typing in what you are looking for, and letting it find it, gets
round that!! And will work for other file associations you want to change.
Lisi
4:19 a.m.
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On Sunday 08 March 2015 07:21:55 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 08 March 2015 22:51:17 Greg Madden wrote:
html is formatted text, rtf..rich text, plain text, xml, sgml..markup
languages :-)
--
Peace,
Greg
On Sunday 08 March 2015 06:38:16 pm Gene Heskett
wrote:
Ahh. Seems to have fixed it. But since this is html, who normally would
associate that with text? Mind boggling.
Thank you very much Greg.
Cheers, Gene Heskett On Saturday 07 March 2015 18:59:39 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
~>file associations>text>html, works here. > Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 March 2015 19:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal
>>> when
>>
>> KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE
>> components in
I just did this again Tim, moving konqueror from the top choice to
the last choice in 5 or 6 different associations. Perhaps I missed
that exact one? There is no "html" anyplace in the list.
No effect, I still get konqueror for every web link I click on. And
it always needs to kill a script according to a different popup.
> > Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
> >
> > From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
> > Associations :-). 
4:58 p.m.
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Hi Gene,
On Monday 09 March 2015 02:38:16 Gene Heskett wrote:
The latest version of iceweasel is considerably more
stable that
the one it replaced about a week back. That one, I agree, was
pretty bad.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Try "Control Centre", "Default Applications", "Web Browser"
then where
it says "in the following browser" type in "iceweasel" or what ever
you want to use.
HTH.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
8 Mar
8 Mar
4:29 p.m.
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Ping?
On Saturday 07 March 2015 14:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
Lets face it, iceweasal is 10,000% more browser than
konqueror.
Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal when I
click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
If it runs long enough, I can switch to iceweasal in its file
pulldown, but 75% of the time I am looking at its crash report popup,
which for the purposes of registering a bug report is worthless
because the debug symbols are not compiled in. So the report it does
file is basically konqueror crashed, no further details. Those I
believe must get routed to /dev/null since not one of them over the
last 5+ years has ever resulted in a reply (from anyone) asking for
further details.
Thanks folks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
4:49 p.m.
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On Sunday 08 March 2015 16:29:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
Ping?
????? See below at the end.
On Saturday 07 March 2015 14:04:12 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal when I
> click on a web link in a kmail incoming message?
Lisi, earlier:
"Anyway,
KControl -> KDE components -> File associations. Probably TDE components in
14. I am on my desktop."
Dave Lers, earlier:
"Yes, Trinity Control Center > TDE Components > File Associations
From Konqueror its Services > Settings > TDE Components > File
Associations :-)."
>
> If it runs long enough, I can switch to iceweasal in its file
> pulldown, but 75% of the time I am looking at its crash report popup,
> which for the purposes of registering a bug report is worthless
> because the debug symbols are not compiled in. So the report it does
> file is basically konqueror crashed, no further details. Those I
> believe must get routed to /dev/null since not one of them over the
> last 5+ years has ever resulted in a reply (from anyone) asking for
> further details.
elcaseti earlier:
"For many, many years, I have also had trouble with Konquerer crashing all
the time. This is the case on TDE and KDE, and on every distro I have
used, which is a lot of them."
You've hit a bug.
It wasn't TDE that didn't answer, you haven't been using it for five years. I
never click those things. They do seem to be useless.
Here is an explanation for some of the Konqueror problems in TDE:
Timothy Pearson earlier:
"David Lers said:
Pretty much
the only thing Konqueror cannot browse is resource hungry web sites.
While I'd love to see that change, I'm not holding my breath. Despite
that, Konqueror remains my primary desktop application because I can
do/start anything with/from Konqueror.
As you've probably guessed fixing this is very hard. It would require
integrating a different browser engine (such as Webkit) into a Konqueror
plugin while retaining the functionality of the KHTML plugin. While much
of the groundwork has been laid to allow Webkit integration no one has
stepped up to put a prototype together at this time."
So what didn't get a reply and needs pinging? Perhaps rephrase the bit you
think did not get a reply.
Lisi
9 Mar
9 Mar
1:22 a.m.
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On Sunday 08 March 2015 12:49:31 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 08 March 2015 16:29:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Ping?
[...]
So what didn't get a reply and needs pinging?
Perhaps rephrase the
bit you think did not get a reply.
Lisi
How do I change the default use of konqueror to iceweasal?
Wheezy with TDE R14.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
1:50 a.m.
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On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 09:22:33PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 08 March 2015 12:49:31 Lisi Reisz wrote:
That was answered. I have deleted the email, but check the replies from
Tim. At least one of them contains the answer you are looking for.
--
Steve
On Sunday 08 March 2015 16:29:03 Gene Heskett
wrote:
> Ping?
[...]
So what didn't get a reply and needs pinging?
Perhaps rephrase the
bit you think did not get a reply.
Lisi
How do I change the default use of konqueror to iceweasal?
Wheezy with TDE R14.
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