26 Apr
2015
26 Apr
'15
8:58 p.m.
Hello,
Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0 (Debian Jessie) ?
Because when I try to install "linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae",
here below the answer :
Delete the folowing packages :
1) cpp-4.7
2) g++-4.7
3) gcc-4.7
4) gcc-4.7-base
5) kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity
6) kdebase-trinity
7) kdesktop-trinity
8) kmail-trinity
9) konq-plugins-trinity
10) konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
11) konqueror-trinity
Thank.
André
26 Apr
26 Apr
11:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Sunday 26 of April 2015 22:58:02 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
Hello,
Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0 (Debian Jessie) ?
Because when I try to install "linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae",
here below the answer :
Delete the folowing packages :
1) cpp-4.7
2) g++-4.7
3) gcc-4.7
4) gcc-4.7-base
5) kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity
6) kdebase-trinity
7) kdesktop-trinity
8) kmail-trinity
9) konq-plugins-trinity
10) konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
11) konqueror-trinity
Thank.
André
What Trinity version you have installed on? If the final R14.0.0, so that is
not suitable for Jessie. R14.0.0 was released long time before the final
version of Jessie and therefore now causing conflicts. Instead of final
R14.0.0 you can install preliminary packages R14.0.1.
--
Slávek
27 Apr
27 Apr
7:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Sunday 26 April 2015 03:14:48 pm Slávek Banko wrote:
On Sunday 26 of April 2015 22:58:02
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
+1,
I am using the R14.0.1 packages with Jessie, ..running great..thanks.
--
Greg M
Hello,
Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0 (Debian Jessie) ?
Because when I try to install "linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae",
here below the answer :
Delete the folowing packages :
1) cpp-4.7
2) g++-4.7
3) gcc-4.7
4) gcc-4.7-base
5) kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity
6) kdebase-trinity
7) kdesktop-trinity
8) kmail-trinity
9) konq-plugins-trinity
10) konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
11) konqueror-trinity
Thank.
André
What Trinity version you have installed on? If the final R14.0.0, so that
is not suitable for Jessie. R14.0.0 was released long time before the final
version of Jessie and therefore now causing conflicts. Instead of final
R14.0.0 you can install preliminary packages R14.0.1.
8:27 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Monday 27 April 2015 21:02:10 Greg Madden wrote:
Not sure, it's a R14.0.1, but how to be sure ?
thanks.
André
On Sunday 26 April 2015 03:14:48 pm Slávek Banko
wrote:
> On Sunday 26 of April 2015 22:58:02 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> > Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0 (Debian Jessie) ?
> > Because when I try to install "linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae",
> > here below the answer :
> > Delete the folowing packages :
> > 1) cpp-4.7
> > 2) g++-4.7
> > 3) gcc-4.7
> > 4) gcc-4.7-base
> > 5) kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity
> > 6) kdebase-trinity
> > 7) kdesktop-trinity
> > 8) kmail-trinity
> > 9) konq-plugins-trinity
> > 10) konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
> > 11) konqueror-trinity
What Trinity
version you have installed on? If the final R14.0.0, so that
is not suitable for Jessie. R14.0.0 was released long time before the
final version of Jessie and therefore now causing conflicts. Instead of
final R14.0.0 you can install preliminary packages R14.0.1.
+1,
I am using the R14.0.1 packages with Jessie, ..running great..thanks.
8:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Monday 27 of April 2015 22:27:39 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
On Monday 27 April 2015 21:02:10 Greg Madden wrote:
Preliminary packages for R14.0.1 are available on alternative apt source known
as 'preliminary-stable-builds':
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14
--
Slávek
On Sunday 26 April 2015 03:14:48 pm Slávek Banko
wrote:
Not sure, it's a R14.0.1, but how to be sure ?
thanks.
André
On Sunday 26 of April 2015 22:58:02
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
+1,
I am using the R14.0.1 packages with Jessie, ..running great..thanks. Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0 (Debian
Jessie) ?
Because when I try to install "linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae",
here below the answer :
Delete the folowing packages :
1) cpp-4.7
2) g++-4.7
3) gcc-4.7
4) gcc-4.7-base
5) kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity
6) kdebase-trinity
7) kdesktop-trinity
8) kmail-trinity
9) konq-plugins-trinity
10) konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
11) konqueror-trinity
What Trinity version you have installed on? If the final R14.0.0, so
that is not suitable for Jessie. R14.0.0 was released long time before
the final version of Jessie and therefore now causing conflicts.
Instead of final R14.0.0 you can install preliminary packages R14.0.1.
28 Apr
28 Apr
1:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Monday 27 April 2015 22:37:15 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > On Sunday 26 of April 2015 22:58:02
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> > > > Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0 (Debian Jessie) ?
> > > What Trinity version you have installed
on? If the final R14.0.0, so
> > > that is not suitable for Jessie. R14.0.0 was released long time
> > > before the final version of Jessie and therefore now causing
> > > conflicts. Instead of final R14.0.0 you can install preliminary
> > > packages R14.0.1.
> > I am using the R14.0.1 packages with Jessie,
..running great..thanks.
Preliminary packages for R14.0.1 are available on
alternative apt source
known as 'preliminary-stable-builds':
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14
It's the line I have in /etc/apt/sources.list,
so it's a R14.0.1 packages.
How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start tde-trinity.
The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter my login-user,
my password, the desktop starts and at the fifth picture (with a pen)
in the blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on !
I tried with others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem.
So, if you have an idea about this break,
otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
Can "systemd" be responsible ?
Thanks.
André
4:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr napsal(a):
It's the line I have in /etc/apt/sources.list,
so it's a R14.0.1 packages.
How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start tde-trinity.
The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter my login-user,
my password, the desktop starts and at the fifth picture (with a pen)
in the blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on !
I tried with others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem.
So, if you have an idea about this break,
otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
Can "systemd" be responsible ?
Thanks.
André
A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start kdesktop (on Debian
Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were flashing icon in the splash screen
and the desktop was not show. Because my the machine waiting for kernel
update, I rebooted and the problem disappeared.
--
Slávek
On Monday 27 April 2015 22:37:15 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 26 of April 2015 22:58:02 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
wrote:
> > > Does TDE accepts the Kernel 3.16.0
(Debian Jessie) ?
> >
> > What Trinity version you have installed on? If the final R14.0.0,
> > so that is not suitable for Jessie. R14.0.0 was released long time
> > before the final version of Jessie and therefore now causing
> > conflicts. Instead of final R14.0.0 you can install preliminary
> > packages R14.0.1.
>
> I am using the R14.0.1 packages with Jessie, ..running great..thanks.
Preliminary packages for R14.0.1 are available on alternative apt source
known as 'preliminary-stable-builds':
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14
6:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
> How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
> Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start tde-trinity.
> The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter my login-user,
> my password, the desktop starts and at the fifth picture (with a pen)
> in the blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on !
> I tried with others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem.
> So, if you have an idea about this break,
> otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
> Can "systemd" be responsible ?
A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start
kdesktop (on Debian
Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were flashing icon in the splash screen
and the desktop was not show. Because my the machine waiting for kernel
update, I rebooted and the problem disappeared.
With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
the graphic boot stops.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
André
8:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:31:12 +0200
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko wrote:
Well, "it works for me" :) and a lot of other people so its not that
packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new user and login as him?
Maybe something broke in your user configuration.
--
Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky(a)gmail.com)
Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
> How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
> Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start tde-trinity.
> The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter my login-user,
> my password, the desktop starts and at the fifth picture (with a pen)
> in the blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on !
> I tried with others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem.
> So, if you have an idea about this break,
> otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
> Can "systemd" be responsible ?
A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the
start kdesktop (on
Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were flashing icon in the
splash screen and the desktop was not show. Because my the machine
waiting for kernel update, I rebooted and the problem disappeared.
With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
the graphic boot stops.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hi Nick,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:29:48 Nick Koretsky wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:31:12 +0200
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
I tried that without any change in behaviour! Though I do agree that
something has changed.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko
wrote:
Well, "it works for me" :) and a lot of other people so its not
that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new user and
login as him? Maybe something broke in your user configuration. Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
the graphic boot stops.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode. How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start
tde-trinity. The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter
my login-user, my password, the desktop starts and at the
fifth picture (with a pen) in the blue center area, it
stops... impossible to go on ! I tried with others sessions
login as gdm3, lightdm => idem. So, if you have an idea about
this break,
otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
Can "systemd" be responsible ?
A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start kdesktop
(on Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were flashing
icon in the splash screen and the desktop was not show. Because
my the machine waiting for kernel update, I rebooted and the
problem disappeared.
10:57 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 23:00:52 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Hi Nick,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:29:48 Nick Koretsky wrote:
Ironically right after writing previous message i encountered this behavior
on the first boot into jessie on the next machine i updated. But it was
fixed by restarting tdm-trinity.
--
Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky(a)gmail.com)
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:31:12 +0200
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
I tried that without any change in behaviour! Though I do agree that
something has changed.
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko
wrote:
Well, "it works for me" :) and a lot of other people so its not
that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new user and
login as him? Maybe something broke in your user configuration. Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
> How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
> Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start
> tde-trinity. The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter
> my login-user, my password, the desktop starts and at the
> fifth picture (with a pen) in the blue center area, it
> stops... impossible to go on ! I tried with others sessions
> login as gdm3, lightdm => idem. So, if you have an idea about
> this break,
> otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
> Can "systemd" be responsible ?
A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start kdesktop
(on Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were flashing
icon in the splash screen and the desktop was not show. Because
my the machine waiting for kernel update, I rebooted and the
problem disappeared.
With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
the graphic boot stops.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
29 Apr
29 Apr
3:43 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hi Nick,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 23:57:36 Nick Koretsky wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 23:00:52 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me :-)
What I find interesting is having to wait and then reentering my
password after which everything works Ok. Even root behaves the
same. There is something that has to complete before I / you can
login.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Hi Nick,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:29:48 Nick Koretsky wrote:
Ironically right after writing previous message i encountered this
behavior on the first boot into jessie on the next machine i
updated. But it was fixed by restarting tdm-trinity. On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:31:12 +0200
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
I tried that without any change in behaviour! Though I do agree
that something has changed. On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko
wrote:
> Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr napsal(a):
> > How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
> > Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start
> > tde-trinity. The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I
> > enter my login-user, my password, the desktop starts and
> > at the fifth picture (with a pen) in the blue center
> > area, it stops... impossible to go on ! I tried with
> > others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem. So, if
> > you have an idea about this break,
> > otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from
> > new. Can "systemd" be responsible ?
>
> A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start
> kdesktop (on Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were
> flashing icon in the splash screen and the desktop was not
> show. Because my the machine waiting for kernel update, I
> rebooted and the problem disappeared.
With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
the graphic boot stops.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
Well, "it works for me" :) and a lot of other people so its not
that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new user and
login as him? Maybe something broke in your user configuration.
4:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 16:43:42 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Hi Nick,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 23:57:36 Nick Koretsky wrote:
Yep. This machine got stuck in this state few more times while i was
frantically rebooting while making my audio and video work :) And it does
seems like this happens if you try to login too fast. I dont think it
hanged even once if i waited on login screen for a minute or more, but when
i typed password immediately it has a decent chance to stuck.
Still, this only happens on one out of four PCs i updated to jessie since
release. And no matter how i look i cant comprehend whats different in this
one.
--
Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky(a)gmail.com)
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 23:00:52 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me :-)
What I find interesting is having to wait and then reentering my
password after which everything works Ok. Even root behaves the
same. There is something that has to complete before I / you can
login.
Hi Nick,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:29:48 Nick Koretsky wrote:
Ironically right after writing previous message i encountered this
behavior on the first boot into jessie on the next machine i
updated. But it was fixed by restarting tdm-trinity. On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:31:12 +0200
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr napsal(a):
> > > How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
> > > Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start
> > > tde-trinity. The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I
> > > enter my login-user, my password, the desktop starts and
> > > at the fifth picture (with a pen) in the blue center
> > > area, it stops... impossible to go on ! I tried with
> > > others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem. So, if
> > > you have an idea about this break,
> > > otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from
> > > new. Can "systemd" be responsible ?
> >
> > A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start
> > kdesktop (on Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were
> > flashing icon in the splash screen and the desktop was not
> > show. Because my the machine waiting for kernel update, I
> > rebooted and the problem disappeared.
>
> With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
>
> Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
>
> Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
> the graphic boot stops.
>
> CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
Well, "it works for me" :) and a lot of other people so its not
that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new user and
login as him? Maybe something broke in your user configuration.
I tried that without any change in behaviour! Though I do agree
that something has changed.
4:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hi Nick,
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 17:17:58 Nick Koretsky wrote:
Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me :-)
What I find interesting is having to wait and then reentering my
password after which everything works Ok. Even root behaves the
same. There is something that has to complete before I / you can
login.
Yep. This machine got stuck in this state few more times while i
was frantically rebooting while making my audio and video work :)
And it does seems like this happens if you try to login too fast. I
dont think it hanged even once if i waited on login screen for a
minute or more, but when i typed password immediately it has a
decent chance to stuck.
Still, this only happens on one out of four PCs i updated to jessie
since release. And no matter how i look i cant comprehend whats
different in this one.
I wonder if its hardware related. I upgraded a friends machine and he
doesn't have this problem. His machine, mother board wise is AMD
based, while mine is intel based. We both have mother boards with
built in graphic cards and both have the same Nvidia external AGP
graphic cards. But I think that there are to many differences to be
able to speculate.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 16:43:42 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> On Tuesday 28 April 2015 23:57:36 Nick Koretsky wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 23:00:52 +0100
> >
> > Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
> > > Hi Nick,
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:29:48 Nick Koretsky wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:31:12 +0200
> > > >
> > > > andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > > > > Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
> > >
> How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
> > > > Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start
> > > > tde-trinity. The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears,
> > > > I enter my login-user, my password, the desktop
> > > > starts and at the fifth picture (with a pen) in the
> > > > blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on ! I
> > > > tried with others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm =>
> > > > idem. So, if you have an idea about this break,
> > > > otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity
> > > > from new. Can "systemd" be responsible ?
> > >
> > > A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start
> > > kdesktop (on Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly -
> > > were flashing icon in the splash screen and the desktop
> > > was not show. Because my the machine waiting for kernel
> > > update, I rebooted and the problem disappeared.
> >
> > With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
> >
> > Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
> >
> > Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
> > the graphic boot stops.
> >
> > CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
>
> Well, "it works for me" :) and a lot of other people so its
> not that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new
> user and login as him? Maybe something broke in your user
> configuration.
I tried that without any change in behaviour! Though I do
agree that something has changed.
Ironically right after writing previous message i encountered
this behavior on the first boot into jessie on the next machine
i updated. But it was fixed by restarting tdm-trinity.
10:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:36:00 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Yep. This machine got stuck in this state few more times while i
was frantically rebooting while making my audio and video work :)
And it does seems like this happens if you try to login too fast. I
dont think it hanged even once if i waited on login screen for a
minute or more, but when i typed password immediately it has a
decent chance to stuck.
Still, this only happens on one out of four PCs i updated to jessie
since release. And no matter how i look i cant comprehend whats
different in this one.
I wonder if its hardware related. I upgraded a friends machine and he
doesn't have this problem. His machine, mother board wise is AMD
based, while mine is intel based. We both have mother boards with
built in graphic cards and both have the same Nvidia external AGP
graphic cards. But I think that there are to many differences to be
able to speculate.
It doesnt look like its hardware related. All my machines have AMD CPU's.
The one which exhibits this have AMD video, but one of others have AMD video
too. This behavior happens both with radeon and fglrx drivers. Also this is
not systemd related as someone suggested early because i left this one on
sysv-init.
Also i tried to monitors what happens when it gets stuck - apparently at
one point in tde startup process two kdesktop process started, one finishes
almost instantly and other goes to sleep. When it stuck the second process
doesnt finish and just sits here. If you kill it (the one which is not in
Sl state) tde stratup would proceeds into half-functioning tde session
(kicker related stuff works, but desktop is not loaded and background
remains from startup. Apparently some other services do not start too
because its complains when you try to logout)
--
Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky(a)gmail.com)
Ironically right after writing previous message i encountered
this behavior on the first boot into jessie on the next machine
i updated. But it was fixed by restarting tdm-trinity.
Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me :-)
What I find interesting is having to wait and then reentering my
password after which everything works Ok. Even root behaves the
same. There is something that has to complete before I / you can
login.
10:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 23:36:19 Nick Koretsky wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:36:00 +0100
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
I wonder if its hardware related. I upgraded a friends machine
and he doesn't have this problem. His machine, mother board wise
is AMD based, while mine is intel based. We both have mother
boards with built in graphic cards and both have the same Nvidia
external AGP graphic cards. But I think that there are to many
differences to be able to speculate.
It doesnt look like its hardware related. All my machines have AMD
CPU's. The one which exhibits this have AMD video, but one of
others have AMD video too. This behavior happens both with radeon
and fglrx drivers. Also this is not systemd related as someone
suggested early because i left this one on sysv-init.
Also i tried to monitors what happens when it gets stuck -
apparently at one point in tde startup process two kdesktop process
started, one finishes almost instantly and other goes to sleep.
When it stuck the second process doesnt finish and just sits here.
If you kill it (the one which is not in Sl state) tde stratup would
proceeds into half-functioning tde session (kicker related stuff
works, but desktop is not loaded and background remains from
startup. Apparently some other services do not start too because
its complains when you try to logout)
Apart from not discovering the second desktop process, going through
another tty sometimes let me into this half functioning state. It
was completly by accident, being called away after putting in my
password that I found that the password field was now blank and
putting my password in again and pressing enter or the login button
that TDE started normally.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
> Ironically right after writing previous message
i
> encountered this behavior on the first boot into jessie on
> the next machine i updated. But it was fixed by restarting
> tdm-trinity.
Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me :-)
What I find interesting is having to wait and then reentering
my password after which everything works Ok. Even root
behaves the same. There is something that has to complete
before I / you can login.
Yep. This machine got stuck in this state few more times while
i was frantically rebooting while making my audio and video
work :) And it does seems like this happens if you try to login
too fast. I dont think it hanged even once if i waited on login
screen for a minute or more, but when i typed password
immediately it has a decent chance to stuck.
Still, this only happens on one out of four PCs i updated to
jessie since release. And no matter how i look i cant
comprehend whats different in this one.
9:33 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 17:43:42 Baron wrote:
> > > Well, "it works for me" :)
and a lot of other people so its not
> > > that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new user and
> > > login as him? Maybe something broke in your user configuration.
I delete all TDE and reinstalled it, created a new user,
but idem, TDE starts and stop as expalined before...
What I find interesting is having to wait and then
reentering my
password after which everything works Ok. Even root behaves the
same. There is something that has to complete before I / you can
login.
Can you explain your method to make TDE starting normally,
exactly what you do with tne graphic boot "tdm-trinity".
Thanks.
André
10:56 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hi Andre,
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 22:33:22 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 17:43:42 Baron wrote:
Simply wait until the password field becomes blank and then put the
password back in and press enter.
This works for me every time ! It's just inconvienient.
I've just got the bits for a new machine, so when I get it assembled
and Linux loaded I'll be able to see what happens on it. Probably
over the bank holiday weekend.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
> > > Well, "it works for me"
:) and a lot of other people so its
> > > not that packages are broken. Have you tried adding a new
> > > user and login as him? Maybe something broke in your user
> > > configuration.
I delete all TDE and reinstalled it, created a new user,
but idem, TDE starts and stop as expalined before...
What I find interesting is having to wait and
then reentering my
password after which everything works Ok. Even root behaves the
same. There is something that has to complete before I / you can
login.
Can you explain your method to make TDE starting normally,
exactly what you do with tne graphic boot "tdm-trinity".
Thanks.
André
30 Apr
30 Apr
9:50 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Thursday 30 April 2015 00:56:31 Baron wrote:
Hi Andre,
Simply wait until the password field becomes blank and then put the
password back in and press enter.
This works for me every time ! It's just inconvienient.
I tried your method, it works, but as you said, it's inconvienient.
It's better than nothing :-)
I've just got the bits for a new machine, so when
I get it assembled
and Linux loaded I'll be able to see what happens on it. Probably
over the bank holiday weekend.
It would great if you can find the solution for the TDE stopped boot,
and many thanks by advance.
André
1 May
1 May
7:15 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Am Donnerstag, 30. April 2015 schrieb andre_debian(a)numericable.fr:
On Thursday 30 April 2015 00:56:31 Baron wrote:
This problem is not kernel specific. I have made dist-upgrade on my test installation
(wheezy) without systemd. Login is automatic. Sometimes (1 of 10) TDE hangs when loading
user settings. I have to kill the first instance of X11 with
<ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace> and it works.
nik
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Hi Andre,
Simply wait until the password field becomes blank and then put the
password back in and press enter.
This works for me every time ! It's just inconvienient.
I tried your method, it works, but as you said, it's inconvienient.
It's better than nothing :-)
I've just got the bits for a new machine, so
when I get it assembled
and Linux loaded I'll be able to see what happens on it. Probably
over the bank holiday weekend.
It would great if you can find the solution for the TDE stopped boot,
and many thanks by advance.
9:41 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Friday 01 May 2015 09:15:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 30. April 2015 schrieb
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr:
> On Thursday 30 April 2015 00:56:31 Baron wrote:
> > Simply wait until the password field becomes blank and then put the
> > password back in and press enter.
> > This works for me every time ! It's just inconvienient.
> I tried your method, it works, but as you said,
it's inconvienient.
> It's better than nothing :-)
>
> > I've just got the bits for a new machine, so when I get it assembled
> > and Linux loaded I'll be able to see what happens on it. Probably
> > over the bank holiday weekend.
> It would great if you can find the solution for
the TDE stopped boot,
> and many thanks by advance.
This problem is not kernel specific. I have made
dist-upgrade on my test
installation (wheezy) without systemd. Login is automatic. Sometimes (1 of
10) TDE hangs when loading user settings. I have to kill the first instance
of X11 with <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace> and it works.
nik
Hello,
I'm not on Wheezy, but "Jessie" and with "systemd".
Not sure it's possible to deactivate or delete systemd with Jessie...
André
10:05 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Fri, 1 May 2015 11:41:02 +0200
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 09:15:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
1. Jessie works perfectly with sysv. all you have to do is install
sysvinit-core and deinstall systemd-sysv.
2. Tde stuck on 5th icon on startup doesnt seem to be related to systemd
or even jessie, it looks more like a bug in preliminary-stable version of
tde. Its just that people are now forced to use this version on jessie and
started to step on it.
--
Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky(a)gmail.com)
Am Donnerstag, 30. April 2015 schrieb
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr:
> On Thursday 30 April 2015 00:56:31 Baron wrote:
> > Simply wait until the password field becomes blank and then put the
> > password back in and press enter.
> > This works for me every time ! It's just inconvienient.
> I tried your method, it works, but as you
said, it's inconvienient.
> It's better than nothing :-)
>
> > I've just got the bits for a new machine, so when I get it assembled
> > and Linux loaded I'll be able to see what happens on it. Probably
> > over the bank holiday weekend.
> It would great if you can find the solution
for the TDE stopped boot,
> and many thanks by advance.
This problem is not kernel specific. I have made
dist-upgrade on my test
installation (wheezy) without systemd. Login is automatic. Sometimes (1
of 10) TDE hangs when loading user settings. I have to kill the first
instance of X11 with <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace> and it works.
nik
Hello,
I'm not on Wheezy, but "Jessie" and with "systemd".
Not sure it's possible to deactivate or delete systemd with Jessie...
11:07 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Friday 01 of May 2015 12:50:58 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 11:05:42 Nick Koretsky wrote:
Yes, this is related to the recent set of patches, which resolved problems
with threads and signals between kdesktop and kdesktop_lock. Apparently there
is some new race-condition at startup. I'll report this bug soon...
Currently, this is the most important bug blocking R14.0.1.
--
Slávek
it looks more like a bug in preliminary-stable
version of
tde.
Then report it as a bug so that it can get sorted.
Lisi
12:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hi Slavek,
On Friday 01 May 2015 12:07:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
Thankyou for that confirmation.
I'm just about to build a new machine for my self and have two others
ariving on Tuesday for clients. These both need to have Jessie + TDE
loaded on them.
Thanks for the good work.
Unfortunately I'm a hardware engineer and absolutely rubbish with
software. I'm more at home with a mill and a lathe nowadays.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Then report it
as a bug so that it can get sorted.
Lisi
Yes, this is related to the recent set of patches, which resolved
problems with threads and signals between kdesktop and
kdesktop_lock. Apparently there is some new race-condition at
startup. I'll report this bug soon... Currently, this is the most
important bug blocking R14.0.1.
1:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
> On Friday 01 May 2015 09:15:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
> 1. Jessie works perfectly with sysv. all you have to do is install
> sysvinit-core and deinstall systemd-sysv.
> 2. Tde stuck on 5th icon on startup doesnt seem to be related to systemd
> or even jessie, it looks more like a bug in preliminary-stable version of
> tde. Its just that people are now forced to use this version on jessie and
> started to step on it.
Ok, so, not necessary to migrate from "systemd" to "sysv",
On Friday 01 May 2015 14:02:06 Baron wrote:
Hi Slavek,
On Friday 01 May 2015 12:07:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > Then report it as a bug so that it can get sorted.
> > Lisi
Yes, this is
related to the recent set of patches, which resolved
problems with threads and signals between kdesktop and
kdesktop_lock. Apparently there is some new race-condition at
startup. I'll report this bug soon... Currently, this is the most
important bug blocking R14.0.1.
Thankyou for that confirmation.
I'm just about to build a new machine for my self and have two others
arriving on Tuesday for clients. These both need to have Jessie + TDE
loaded on them. Thanks for the good work.
Unfortunately I'm a hardware engineer and absolutely rubbish with
software. I'm more at home with a mill and a lathe nowadays.
When about the patch to resolve the bug blocking login to TDE will available ?
Thanks.
André
4:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Friday 01 of May 2015 14:02:06 Baron wrote:
Hi Slavek,
On Friday 01 May 2015 12:07:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
Thankyou for that confirmation.
I'm just about to build a new machine for my self and have two others
ariving on Tuesday for clients. These both need to have Jessie + TDE
loaded on them.
Thanks for the good work.
Unfortunately I'm a hardware engineer and absolutely rubbish with
software. I'm more at home with a mill and a lathe nowadays.
Bug report filled. See bug 2437:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437
--
Slávek
Then
report it as a bug so that it can get sorted.
Lisi
Yes, this is related to the recent set of patches, which resolved
problems with threads and signals between kdesktop and
kdesktop_lock. Apparently there is some new race-condition at
startup. I'll report this bug soon... Currently, this is the most
important bug blocking R14.0.1.
5:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Friday 01 May 2015 18:53:19 Slávek Banko wrote:
> On Friday 01 May 2015 12:07:06 Slávek Banko
wrote:
> > > Then report it as a bug so that it can get sorted.
> > Yes, this is related to the recent set of
patches, which resolved
> > problems with threads and signals between kdesktop and
> > kdesktop_lock. Apparently there is some new race-condition at
> > startup. I'll report this bug soon... Currently, this is the most
> > important bug blocking R14.0.1.
> Thankyou for that confirmation.
> I'm just about to build a new machine for my self and have two others
> ariving on Tuesday for clients. These both need to have Jessie + TDE
> loaded on them.
> Thanks for the good work.
> Unfortunately I'm a hardware engineer and absolutely rubbish with
> software. I'm more at home with a mill and a lathe nowadays.
Bug report filled. See bug 2437:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437
But actually no patch to correct the bug ?
André
10:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Friday 01 May 2015 18:45:26 André wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 18:53:19 Slávek Banko wrote:
But actually no patch to correct the bug ?
Give him (and the others) time! The difficult he can do today. The
impossible takes a little longer. Nothing can actually be done yesterday.
The developers are doing this for nothing in their free time. You must be a
little patient.
The bug was reported just before 17:53 (my time) and at 18:45 you are
complaining that your problem has not yet been solved. What planet do you
live on???
Lisi
On Friday
01 May 2015 12:07:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
Bug report filled. See bug 2437:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437 > Then report it as a bug so that it can get
sorted.
Yes, this is related to the recent set of patches, which resolved
problems with threads and signals between kdesktop and
kdesktop_lock. Apparently there is some new race-condition at
startup. I'll report this bug soon... Currently, this is the most
important bug blocking R14.0.1.
Thankyou for that confirmation.
I'm just about to build a new machine for my self and have two others
ariving on Tuesday for clients. These both need to have Jessie + TDE
loaded on them.
Thanks for the good work.
Unfortunately I'm a hardware engineer and absolutely rubbish with
software. I'm more at home with a mill and a lathe nowadays. 
11:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On 15-05-01 06:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 18:45:26 André wrote:
+1
midi-pascal
On Friday 01 May 2015 18:53:19 Slávek Banko
wrote:
But actually no patch to
correct the bug ?
Give him (and the others) time! The difficult he can do today.
The
impossible takes a little longer. Nothing can actually be done yesterday.
The developers are doing this for nothing in their free time. You must be a
little patient.
The bug was reported just before 17:53 (my time) and at 18:45 you are
complaining that your problem has not yet been solved. What planet do you
live on???
Lisi
On Friday
01 May 2015 12:07:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
>> Then report it as a bug so that it can get sorted.
> Yes, this is related to the recent set of patches, which resolved
> problems with threads and signals between kdesktop and
> kdesktop_lock. Apparently there is some new race-condition at
> startup. I'll report this bug soon... Currently, this is the most
> important bug blocking R14.0.1.
Thankyou for that confirmation.
I'm just about to build a new machine for my self and have two others
ariving on Tuesday for clients. These both need to have Jessie + TDE
loaded on them.
Thanks for the good work.
Unfortunately I'm a hardware engineer and absolutely rubbish with
software. I'm more at home with a mill and a lathe nowadays.
Bug report
filled. See bug 2437:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2437 
2 May
2 May
12:01 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On 05/01/2015 03:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 18:45:26 André wrote:
I'm not sure that's correct; nothing is, in fact, pretty much what I got
done yesterday. :)
But actually no patch to correct the bug ?
Nothing can actually be done yesterday. The bug was reported just before 17:53 (my time) and
at 18:45 you are
complaining that your problem has not yet been solved. What planet do you
live on???
Maybe he was complaining, or maybe just asking for clarification. We need
to remember that those whose native language is not English often phrase
things a little differently than we would, and give them the benefit of the
doubt.
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10:15 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Saturday 02 May 2015 02:01:55 Dan Youngquist wrote:
Sorry, if I have hurted.
I'm not in a hurry, I'm not complaining about the bug,
I can wait... and understand that it's not so easy to repair,
as the certificate of TDE site with many complaints :-)
André
On 05/01/2015 03:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 01 May 2015 18:45:26 André wrote:
>> But actually no patch to correct the bug ?
Nothing can
actually be done yesterday.
I'm not sure that's correct; nothing is, in
fact, pretty much what I got
done yesterday. :)
The bug was reported just before 17:53 (my time)
and at 18:45 you are
complaining that your problem has not yet been solved. What planet do
you live on???
Maybe he was complaining, or maybe just asking for clarification.
We need
to remember that those whose native language is not English often phrase
things a little differently than we would, and give them the benefit of the
doubt.
2:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hi All,
Well something has changed ! I did an update last night and this
morning found that I could no longer get to my desktop using the
technique of waiting for the password to disappear.
Now both my user name and the password are cleared ! However
reinstating them both and pressing enter left me with the desktop
failing to load and then a dark blue screen.
Eventually I got a working desktop on one of the tty's. But only
Kmail and Iceweasel work. The other applications including Synaptic,
that I tried don't.
Not good ! For the uninitiated this means that their machine is
effectively unuseable.
HTH.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
4:32 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
> Nothing can actually be done yesterday.
I'm not sure that's correct; nothing is, in
fact, pretty much what I got
done yesterday. :)
> The bug was reported just before 17:53 (my time) and at 18:45 you are
> complaining that your problem has not yet been solved. What planet do
> you live on???
Maybe he was complaining, or maybe just asking for
clarification. We need
to remember that those whose native language is not English often phrase
things a little differently than we would, and give them the benefit of the
doubt.
It's right, thank you Dan.
You understand the human soul :-)
André
1 May
1 May
5:06 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
On Tuesday 28 of April 2015 20:31:12 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 18:54:50 Slávek Banko wrote:
I have Wheezy with kernel from wheezy-backports == also 3.16.x
As I found out yesterday, immediately after previous restart, I did not show
problem, but when I login the next day problem is back! (Machine is running
continuously.)
It is positive that with this I have a machine where I can test this problem -
reproducibility is pretty much 100% :)
--
Slávek
Dne út 28. dubna 2015 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
With Jessie, the kernel is 3.16 (wheezy was 3.2).
Not solved, reboot does'n change the problem.
Desktop TDE starts and at the fifth icon flashing,
the graphic boot stops.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to come back to konsole-mode.
André
How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start tde-trinity.
The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter my login-user,
my password, the desktop starts and at the fifth picture (with a pen)
in the blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on !
I tried with others sessions login as gdm3, lightdm => idem.
So, if you have an idea about this break,
otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
Can "systemd" be responsible ?
A few days ago I also noticed a problem with the start kdesktop (on
Debian Wheezy) - proved to be similarly - were flashing icon in the
splash screen and the desktop was not show. Because my the machine
waiting for kernel update, I rebooted and the problem disappeared.
28 Apr
28 Apr
6:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE and kernel 3.16
Hello Andre,
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 14:53:36 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
How to completely remove TDE-Trinity ?
Since I upgraded Debian to Jessie, I cannot start tde-trinity.
The boot-session "tdm-trinity", appears, I enter my login-user,
my password, the desktop starts and at the fifth picture (with a
pen) in the blue center area, it stops... impossible to go on !
I have the same problem ! However through trial n error, I have found
that when I get to the login screen, if I put my password in and wait
until the password disapears, then put the password back in then
press enter, everything works as it should.
I did discover early on that if I switched to tty1 and logged in there
it would often boot to the Trinity desktop, but I soon discovered
that many things did not work ! It was as though a file that set up
my desktop was not being read. I could still surf the net and Email
worked but little else.
So, if you have an idea about this break,
otherwise I have to re-install all the tde-trinity from new.
Can "systemd" be responsible ?
I don't know anything about that :-( sorry
Hope this helps.
Thanks.
André
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Baron
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