6 May
2015
6 May
'15
6:32 p.m.
I know exactly what Lisi is talking about. There's a growing trend that's
moving away from function toward flash. Web designers are doing three things.
1. Using all websites as POS sites (check out verizon's nightmare of a site).
2. Using pale, small fonts against similarly coloured backgrounds (grey
letters against a white bg). Using fonts that are "cool" rather than legable.
3. Designing websites so they can be used by mobile devices as well as
standard screen sized machines. Rather than building two.
This trend is expanding to other things. All of this leads to unreadable
pages, emails etc.
BTW, I have kmail set to show plain text as default. And I take over the fonts
on pages using the build in tools/settings.
Lisi try check out the settings. See if you can alter the fonts, and set it to
display text as the default. It might help.
I know this is exactly helpful, but...
Kate
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 16:51:43 Mike Bird wrote:
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On Wed May 6 2015 06:46:34 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Hi, Mike,
You've hit the nail right on the head! Except that, in addition, the fonts
are apt to be chosen for "prettiness" rather than clarity. The exact font
can make an enormous difference.
I did ask my power supplier the other day whether it was selling pictures or
electricity. (It likes small writing in pale green on pale yellow. How on
earth do even completely sighted people manage to read that??)
Thanks very much.
Lisi
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Hi Lisi,
I'm guessing maybe bad color contrast or fonts too small, but
I'd like to know for sure.
So that techies can better understand the issues, can you give
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6 May
6 May
6:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Bug 2440 (URL added)
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 19:32:53 Kate Draven wrote:
BTW, I have kmail set to show plain text as default.
And I take over the
fonts on pages using the build in tools/settings.
Lisi try check out the settings. See if you can alter the fonts, and set it
to display text as the default. It might help.
I know this is exactly helpful, but...
Thanks, Kate. Yes, I have all the settings I can find on KMail, set to be as
helpful as possible, and it is the fact that in almost every case they are so
good and figurable that makes me reluctant to leave KMail. That and the fact
it uses Maildir.
I have large Bitstream Vera Sans, adjusted to how much I actually need to read
a particular pane. I display in plain text whenever possible, which is most
of the time. And usually when I can't, I just don't read the email.
But there is a rump that determinedly is only in HTML, that I cannot read and
need to, like my grocery order confirmation. The site is a nightmare so I
make a lot of mistakes, and the order confirmation is so difficult to read
that if I am tired I can't check it.
I currently have no ice cream. I made a mistake on my order. Worse things
happen at sea, but I fancy some ice cream!!
Lisi
7:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Bug 2440 (URL added)
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From there you can rid it, of
all the html crap.
I've had to do that too.
Kate
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
On Wednesday 06 May 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 19:32:53 Kate Draven wrote:
BTW, I have kmail set to show plain text as
default. And I take over the
fonts on pages using the build in tools/settings.
Lisi try check out the settings. See if you can alter the fonts, and set
it to display text as the default. It might help.
I know this is exactly helpful, but...
Thanks, Kate. Yes, I have all the settings I can find on KMail, set to be
as helpful as possible, and it is the fact that in almost every case they
are so good and figurable that makes me reluctant to leave KMail. That and
the fact it uses Maildir.
I have large Bitstream Vera Sans, adjusted to how much I actually need to
read a particular pane. I display in plain text whenever possible, which
is most of the time. And usually when I can't, I just don't read the
email.
But there is a rump that determinedly is only in HTML, that I cannot read
and need to, like my grocery order confirmation. The site is a nightmare
so I make a lot of mistakes, and the order confirmation is so difficult to
read that if I am tired I can't check it.
I currently have no ice cream. I made a mistake on my order. Worse things
happen at sea, but I fancy some ice cream!!
Lisi
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7 May
2:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Bug 2440 (URL added)
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 20:15:42 Kate Draven wrote:
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From
there you can rid it, of
all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly enlarged.
But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream,
the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make a
different mistake this time.
Lisi
2:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Bug 2440 (URL added)
On Thursday 07 May 2015 10:25:35 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 20:15:42 Kate Draven wrote:
Oh, my. Another ice cream addict. I swear that stuff will be the cause
of my early demise. Oh wait, at 80, its too late for that already. ;-)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Ah, take the email and save it as plain text.
From there you can rid
it, of all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly
enlarged. But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
PS, I can't believe you're without ice
cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make a
different mistake this time.
Lisi
3:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Bug 2440 (URL added)
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-05-07 15:25 (UTC+0100):
Kate Draven wrote:
> Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From
there you can rid it, of
> all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be
significantly enlarged.
But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
I'm surprised Kmail can't zoom HTML email. SeaMonkey Mail can, just as it can
disregard the HTML component of multipart MIME messages.
> PS, I can't believe you're without ice
cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight.
Provided taht I make a
different mistake this time.
I was a chocolate ice cream addict until nearly a year ago when I changed my
diet radically. Along with most breads, I dropped all dairy except cottage
cheese for the first 6 months, and lost over 30 lbs. (15% of total body
weight) simply from the dietary change to an abundance of greens, onions,
mushrooms and nuts based on a PBS program I saw on TV by Dr. Fuhrman[1]. I
fulfil my chocolate cravings since then with semi-sweet morsels made for
chocolate chip cookies.
[1] http://www.drfuhrman.com/
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6:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Bug 2440 (URL added)
On Thursday 07 May 2015 11:58:32 Felix Miata wrote:
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-05-07 15:25 (UTC+0100):
I was a chocolate ice cream addict until nearly a year ago when I
changed my diet radically. Along with most breads, I dropped all dairy
except cottage cheese for the first 6 months, and lost over 30 lbs.
(15% of total body weight) simply from the dietary change to an
abundance of greens, onions, mushrooms and nuts based on a PBS program
I saw on TV by Dr. Fuhrman[1]. I fulfil my chocolate cravings since
then with semi-sweet morsels made for chocolate chip cookies.
[1] http://www.drfuhrman.com/
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot
easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or
eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't
got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or
soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
Kate Draven wrote:
I'm surprised Kmail can't zoom HTML email. SeaMonkey Mail can, just as
it can disregard the HTML component of multipart MIME messages.
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text.
From there you can
rid it, of all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly
enlarged. But it would be nice just to be able to read it! PS, I
can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make
a different mistake this time.
9:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would
be a hell of a lot
easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or
eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't
got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or
soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter you
ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or
peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower
seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without
providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is
hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't
enough
snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to
digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones
with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them
either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon
and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip
the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet,
get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than
what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my
copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on. :-D
Find Dr. Fuhrman's video and watch it.
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
8 May
8 May
1:40 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food
On 05/08/2015 04:11 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
To loose 8 kg in 8 months is the easy
part.
To keep it like that for the next 2 years is H E L L
I went from 105 kg to around 76 in 2 years.
It was fun doing so.
The next 20 years , including now.....not funny at all
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes
would be a hell of a lot
easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or
eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't
got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or
soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers,
and especially don't buy peanut butter you
ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or
peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower
seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without
providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is
hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't
enough
snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to
digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones
with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them
either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon
and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip
the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet,
get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than
what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my
copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on. :-D
Find Dr. Fuhrman's video and watch it. 
10:01 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food
On 08/05/15 02:40, Tony Wolfs wrote:
On 05/08/2015 04:11 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Oh <Deity/ >, every bodies body has subtly different chemistry so
different diets work or don't work for different people.
One thing we do have in common is, muscles burn fat.
I got an exercise belt and you can pretty much eat what you like as long
as you put it on three times a day, 30 minutes at a time.
I've read that you shouldn't use one if you have high blood pressure, so
get that down first, then use the belt.
In three days you'll feel the difference, months you'll see the
difference, in 6 months your friends will and in 9 months everyone else
will.
I juiced mine up with two 4-AA battery packs in parallel containing
rechargeable batteries, 4x1.2 = 4.8, replacing the puny 3xAAA
non-rechargeable ones, 3x1.5 = 4.5.
The one I got had several programs which train you into getting used to
it. It also doesn't use gel, just dampen the conductive pads and your
tummy with plain tap water and slap it on.
Don't over do it though.
I thought "this isn't that strong, I'll keep hitting restart a couple of
times".
The next day my stomach muscles had swollen from the equivalent of a
couple of thousand sit-ups, so I gave it a rest for a week.
Initially I had to use the belt extension (it's uses Velcro too) but
before long I didn't need it.
Give it a try!
Regards,
Philip Ashmore
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09
(UTC-0400):
To loose 8 kg in 8 months is the easy
part.
To keep it like that for the next 2 years is H E L L
I went from 105 kg to around 76 in 2 years.
It was fun doing so.
The next 20 years , including now.....not funny at all
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I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes
would be a hell of a lot
easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or
eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't
got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or
soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers,
and especially don't buy peanut
butter you
ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from
peanuts, or
peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower
seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger
without
providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your
body is
hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't
enough
snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to
digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy
the ones
with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them
either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add
cinnamon
and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you
skip
the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave
sweet,
get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than
what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my
copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked
on. :-D
Find Dr. Fuhrman's video and watch it. 
4:46 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
And then get hit while crossing the street.
:-D
--- Original Message ---
From: Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
Date: Thu, May 7, 2015
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would
be a hell of a lot
easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or
eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170.
I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying
here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter
you
ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts,
or
peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios,
sunflower
seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger
without
providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your
body is
hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't
enough
snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to
digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the
ones
with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat
them
either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add
cinnamon
and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you
skip
the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave
sweet,
get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than
what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my
copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on.
:-D
5:11 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
On Friday 08 May 2015 00:46:34 Tini wrote:
And then get hit while crossing the street.
:-D
Or silently shot, crawling out of a bedroom window at 4AM. ;-) Camera
shutters don't make that much noise.
In a past life I was handy with a camera loaded with IR film and IR
flashbulbs. Divorce lawyers paid well for the output of my darkroom
sink & trays. Then they decided no-fault divorces was ok, so there went
that business all to zip.
Good grief folks, that was 40+ years ago. Don't get old, you remember
things like it was just last year.
--- Original Message ---
From: Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
Date: Thu, May 7, 2015
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes
would be a hell of a lot
easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for
dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about
170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips
laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut
butter you
ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from
peanuts, or
peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios,
sunflower
seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger
without
providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your
body is
hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't
enough
snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories
to digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers,
buy the ones
with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat
them
either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add
cinnamon
and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you
skip
the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave
sweet,
get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other
than what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find
on my copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get
snacked on.
:-D
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New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
On Fri, 8 May 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
...
Good grief folks, that was 40+ years ago.
Don't get old, you remember things like it was just last year.
heh... +1
And, you cannot remember if you ate breakfast this morning.
Jonesy
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12:24 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...)
On Friday 08 May 2015 07:45:20 Jonesy wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
Well, I my case its because I haven't had any yet. :) And may not have
anything till mid-afternoon. I just put the coffee on at about 8:15
localtime.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
...
Good grief folks, that was 40+ years ago.
Don't get old, you remember things like it was just last year.
heh... +1
And, you cannot remember if you ate breakfast this morning.
Jonesy
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