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Am Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2014 schrieb Uwe Brauer:
Hello
I enhanced the RAM of my Laptop to 4 Giga. Right now I am running PAE mode but I am thinking to switch to 64bit. As I understand it, trinity is 64 compatible but there is no special 64 bit version? So I am not sure it is worth the change.
thanks
Uwe Brauer
I have it running on 64bit. IMO is changing from 32bit to 64bit not worth the time you spend on it.
Nik
The only major difference between the various TDE architectures is how they are built--it is the same source code for any of them, so the decision to go with i386/amd64 is generally made based on needed features for other applications such as the >4GB per-process memory limit amd64 offers.
Tim
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
The only major difference between the various TDE architectures is how they are built--it is the same source code for any of them, so the decision to go with i386/amd64 is generally made based on needed features for other applications such as the >4GB per-process memory limit amd64 offers.
Tim
Doing CPU mining of some cryptocoins, I ran the same mining software (compiled for 32 or 64 bit of course) on 32bit Debian Linux, then 64bit Debian, on the same hardware.
The 64bit mining achieved nearly twice the hashes per second as the 32bit.
If this is true of more than just the mining software, it could be the reason for the apparent speed-up.
WINE still has only 32bit binaries, which is sad, but I live with that because of Debian's "multi-arch".
Curt-
Hi,
I agree with Nik on this one. Switching to 64 bit does not make as much changes as it seems to do theorically. If you are reinstalling everything, you can go for it, but it is not worth loosing all your ''computer setup'' for that.
-Alexandre
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:23:31 -0400 From: Howland@Priss.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] 64 bit?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
The only major difference between the various TDE architectures is how they are built--it is the same source code for any of them, so the decision to go with i386/amd64 is generally made based on needed features for other applications such as the >4GB per-process memory limit amd64 offers.
Tim
Doing CPU mining of some cryptocoins, I ran the same mining software (compiled for 32 or 64 bit of course) on 32bit Debian Linux, then 64bit Debian, on the same hardware.
The 64bit mining achieved nearly twice the hashes per second as the 32bit.
If this is true of more than just the mining software, it could be the reason for the apparent speed-up.
WINE still has only 32bit binaries, which is sad, but I live with that because of Debian's "multi-arch".
Curt-
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On Wednesday 18 June 2014 13:56:51 you wrote:
Hi,
I agree with Nik on this one. Switching to 64 bit does not make as much changes as it seems to do theorically. If you are reinstalling everything, you can go for it, but it is not worth loosing all your ''computer setup'' for that.
-Alexandre
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:23:31 -0400 From: Howland@Priss.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] 64 bit?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Timothy Pearson
kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
The only major difference between the various TDE architectures is how they are built--it is the same source code for any of them, so the decision to go with i386/amd64 is generally made based on needed features for other applications such as the >4GB per-process memory limit amd64 offers.
Tim
Doing CPU mining of some cryptocoins, I ran the same mining software (compiled for 32 or 64 bit of course) on 32bit Debian Linux, then 64bit Debian, on the same hardware.
The 64bit mining achieved nearly twice the hashes per second as the 32bit.
If this is true of more than just the mining software, it could be the reason for the apparent speed-up.
WINE still has only 32bit binaries, which is sad, but I live with that because of Debian's "multi-arch".
Curt-
One more datapoint...the default i386 kernel in Debian now is PAE.
Peace,
Greg
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Alexandre ac586133@hotmail.com wrote:
If you are reinstalling everything, you can go for it, but it is not worth loosing all your ''computer setup'' for that.
My ~/.trinity folder and all its settings transfered just fine from 32 to 64 bits.
Curt-
"Curt" == Curt Howland Howland@Priss.com writes:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Tim
Doing CPU mining of some cryptocoins, I ran the same mining software (compiled for 32 or 64 bit of course) on 32bit Debian Linux, then 64bit Debian, on the same hardware.
The 64bit mining achieved nearly twice the hashes per second as the 32bit.
These are not my needs. I usually have a couple of applications open at the same time, like Xemacs seamonkey openoffice. Therefore I need an efficient administration of the 4 G RAM, and I don't know how is better 64bit or 32bit PAE.
Uwe Brauer
Am Samstag, 21. Juni 2014 schrieb Uwe Brauer:
"Curt" == Curt Howland Howland@Priss.com writes:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Tim
Doing CPU mining of some cryptocoins, I ran the same mining software (compiled for 32 or 64 bit of course) on 32bit Debian Linux, then 64bit Debian, on the same hardware.
The 64bit mining achieved nearly twice the hashes per second as the 32bit.
These are not my needs. I usually have a couple of applications open at the same time, like Xemacs seamonkey openoffice. Therefore I need an efficient administration of the 4 G RAM, and I don't know how is better 64bit or 32bit PAE.
Uwe Brauer
64nit or 32bit PAE .. it does not matter.
Nik
If you have a 64 bit CPU then you may as well use a 64 bit OS. PAE is great for 32 bit CPUs after Pentium 4 if you have the RAM requirements. There are some other things PAE kernels enable but unless you have the RAM PAE is really not worth the effort on anything less than a Pentium 4.
On 21 June 2014 19:15, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp office@klepp.biz wrote:
Am Samstag, 21. Juni 2014 schrieb Uwe Brauer:
"Curt" == Curt Howland Howland@Priss.com writes:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Tim
Doing CPU mining of some cryptocoins, I ran the same mining software (compiled for 32 or 64 bit of course) on 32bit Debian Linux, then 64bit Debian, on the same hardware.
The 64bit mining achieved nearly twice the hashes per second as the
32bit.
These are not my needs. I usually have a couple of applications open at the same time, like Xemacs seamonkey openoffice. Therefore I need an efficient administration of the 4 G RAM, and I don't know how is better 64bit or 32bit PAE.
Uwe Brauer
64nit or 32bit PAE .. it does not matter.
Nik
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