19 Mar
2023
19 Mar
'23
4:02 a.m.
Hi, everybody!
The notebook Debianization project proceeds apace. Between the parsimonious default
packages in Debian -- "locate" is not installed by default, nor "sudo"
-- and my personal dislike of TDE defaults, it's finicky.
Having installed tdetrinity-base rather than the everything including the tea-timer
version, I went a little hog-wild in Synaptic and installed what seems to be too much gtk
support, for both 2 and 3, which caused firefox to blow up saying it can't do both. So
I went back to synaptic and removed Trinity-related gtk stuff. Now, when I open, say,
konsole, I get this, twice:
ERROR: ld.so: object '/opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be
preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
It seems to do harm, but I'd just as soon install whatever is needed to make the error
go away. Anybody know which package I need?
Thanks in advance.
dep
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19 Mar
19 Mar
4:21 a.m.
On Sat March 18 2023 21:02:16 dep via tde-users wrote:
ERROR: ld.so: object
'/opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD
cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
It seems to do harm, but I'd just as soon install whatever is needed to
make the error go away. Anybody know which package I need?
$ apt-file search libkgtk2.so
kgtk-qt3-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so
--Mike
2:20 p.m.
On Sunday 19 March 2023 05:21:46 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
On Sat March 18 2023 21:02:16 dep via tde-users
wrote:
apt-file search libkgtk2.so
bash: apt-file : not founded command
This is "apt-cache..."
ERROR: ld.so: object
'/opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD
cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
It seems to do harm, but I'd just as soon install whatever is needed to
make the error go away. Anybody know which package I need?
$ apt-file search
libkgtk2.so
kgtk-qt3-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so
Mike
3:09 p.m.
On Sun March 19 2023 07:20:24 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 19 March 2023 05:21:46 Mike Bird via
tde-users wrote:
apt-cache finds packages by name and/or provides information
about packages and package policies.
apt-file determines which package contains a file or lists the
files contained in a package.
apt-file can tell you which package contains a library you need
which apt-cache cannot.
The apt-file executable is in the apt-file package.
--Mike
$ apt-file search libkgtk2.so
kgtk-qt3-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so
apt-file search libkgtk2.so
bash: apt-file : not founded command
This is "apt-cache..." 
7:59 a.m.
On Sunday 19 March 2023 05.02:16 dep via tde-users wrote:
Between the parsimonious
default packages in Debian -- "locate" is not installed by default
Yeah, that's what I like :)
I don't use sudo
But I seem to remember a Debian installer that asked if I wanted to install
it.
Thierry
2:57 p.m.
said Thierry de Coulon via tde-users:
| On Sunday 19 March 2023 05.02:16 dep via tde-users wrote:
| > Between the parsimonious
| > default packages in Debian -- "locate" is not installed by default
|
| Yeah, that's what I like :)
| I don't use sudo
Problem with that is that you need then to do things such as "xhost +
localhost" if you want to su and run anything graphical, and so on. I
find "locate" useful. And to revive "shutdown," which yeah, I know, is
now
a symlink anyway, you have to make a symlink. It's a little like needing
to go downstairs and fire up the boiler to get hot water, when for a long
while it just came when you turn on the faucet. In short, there's a
missing document: "Things you're probably used to, how to regain them, and
why we left them out."
Not really complaining: after the Trisquel -- I want to write Trisquet --
encounter, Debian seems positively libertine: during the install it
flashed the "sorry, but we're going to use a non-free wifi driver" and
then just did it. The Debian install was the easiest installation from
scratch I've ever done.
| But I seem to remember a Debian installer that asked if I wanted to
| install it.
The installation DVD image listed a half-dozen installers; I picked the
graphical one just to see what horrors a Debian graphical installer might
bring. There were only a couple of places where the answer wouldn't have
been evident to a seven-year-old and the only critical one was in disk
partitioning, which defaults to one partition for the whole thing. (There
were a couple of slightly obscure ones as well, but nothing where the
defaults were likely to break anything. I did opt in to the phone-home
popularity contest, because I figure it's good they know that people are
putting TDE on Debian.) But there was no place where I was given a choice
of packages to install.
--
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3:47 p.m.
On Sunday 19 March 2023 15.57:13 dep via tde-users wrote:
Problem with that is that you need then to do things such as "xhost +
localhost" if you want to su and run anything graphica
The few things I have to run as root run from TDE Desktop with tdesu
<application>. In the worst case (and that should not be often) I can login
as root.
Thierry
5:41 p.m.
Dne ne 19. března 2023 05:02:16 dep via tde-users napsal(a):
Hi, everybody!
The notebook Debianization project proceeds apace. Between the
parsimonious default packages in Debian -- "locate" is not installed by
default, nor "sudo" -- and my personal dislike of TDE defaults, it's
finicky.
Having installed tdetrinity-base rather than the everything including
the tea-timer version, I went a little hog-wild in Synaptic and
installed what seems to be too much gtk support, for both 2 and 3, which
caused firefox to blow up saying it can't do both. So I went back to
synaptic and removed Trinity-related gtk stuff. Now, when I open, say,
konsole, I get this, twice:
ERROR: ld.so: object '/opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD
cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
It seems to do harm, but I'd just as soon install whatever is needed to
make the error go away. Anybody know which package I need?
Thanks in advance.
dep
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If you uninstall the kgtk-qt3-trinity package, you need to log out / log in
so that there is no longer libkgtk2.so set in the variable LD_PRELOAD.
Cheers
--
Slávek
20 Mar
20 Mar
4:45 p.m.
said Slávek Banko via tde-users:
| If you uninstall the kgtk-qt3-trinity package, you need to log out / log
| in so that there is no longer libkgtk2.so set in the variable
| LD_PRELOAD.
Thanks. Good to know.
--
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