22 Mar
2023
22 Mar
'23
3:25 p.m.
On Wednesday 22 March 2023 09:20:46 am Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
We have some ideas and plans for the non-profit, just
need to have a final
round of discussions and then if we are in agreement, we need to set out to
do it, which is the hardest part :-)
Starting a new thread to list the costs and special restrictions of
non-profits by location.
Note: If the dev’s already have a set in stone plan, then this thread is
pointless, but, otherwise, it’ll be a good source of information for the
final decision.
I’ll start with what I remember from the last go-around about the USA and
Canada (links are in the old thread). I’m using the term ‘Federal’ for
national level government and approximations in USDs. Let’s try to keep this
just a list of facts and relevant notes. Do include links to sources if you
have them.
# # #
USA
Legal Setup: 250 - 1,000
Federal Tax Registration[IRS]: 1,500
Local Tax Registration: Varies by State/County
Govt per year fees:
Cost of yearly tax preparation:
Notes:
- Easy for individuals to transfer received funds to.
Canada
Legal Setup:
Federal Tax Registration[???]:
Local Tax Registration:
Govt per Year fees:
Cost of tax preparation:
Notes:
- Registrations are free under specific conditions.
- Can get the USA IRS Tax Registration fee waived.
22 Mar
22 Mar
4:15 p.m.
On Wednesday 22 March 2023 16.25:16 Michael via tde-users wrote:
Starting a new thread to list the costs and special
restrictions of
non-profits by location.
Would have to have a more precise listing of exatly what the association would
do, but providing we don't sell anything and use the funds only for
development, in Switzerland, you can freely create an association without any
costs (legal setup or registration tax). Associations require regsitration
only if they make more than 10 million a year or employ 50 people full time.
There would be moderate costs running a bank/Post account.
Thierry
6:53 p.m.
On Wednesday 22 March 2023 09:15:26 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 22 March 2023 16.25:16 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
I don't know enough about the laws in Switzerland (governing non-profits, or
technology, etc.), but putting those words together (*free* & *association*)
does have that ring of freedom about it.
Bill
Starting a new thread to list the costs and
special restrictions of
non-profits by location.
Would have to have a more precise listing of exatly what the association
would do, but providing we don't sell anything and use the funds only for
development, in Switzerland, you can freely create an association without
any costs (legal setup or registration tax). Associations require
regsitration only if they make more than 10 million a year or employ 50
people full time.
There would be moderate costs running a bank/Post account.
Thierry 
11:23 p.m.
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:25:16 -0500
Michael via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
Canada
Legal Setup:
Federal Tax Registration[???]:
Local Tax Registration:
Govt per Year fees:
Cost of tax preparation:
Notes:
- Registrations are free under specific conditions.
- Can get the USA IRS Tax Registration fee waived.
Legal setup fees vary per province. You need to register for federal GST
(that's sort of like European VAT, except when it isn't) processing
purposes once you start doing around $10000CAD/year of business.
Probably has to be fronted by a Canadian citizen, and I'm not willing to
take on that responsibility.
However, it seems more logical for TDE to set up legal housekeeping
in an EU country, since that's where the few devs whose locations I can
figure out from their email addresses seem to live.
I personally have no objection to donations going directly to Slávek for
a time (actually, I'd have no great problem even if he absconded with
them—he's certainly put in enough work on TDE!), but we do need to
work this out eventually, and an interim solution might be used as an
excuse for more foot dragging. We don't need that.
E. Liddell
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