27 Nov
2012
27 Nov
'12
10:33 p.m.
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I have TDE 3.5.13 installed in a Debian Squeeze box. Today I ran
"apt-get update" and then "apt-get -upgrade", whereby some 350
packages,
including many Trinity packages were upgraded. Soon after I shut down
the box.
Later I opened it again, but the desktop environment (terminal F7) did
not appear. Instead, terminal F1 opened with the login bang. I did
however notice in the text which screened by just before the bang
appeared a line reading "Starting K display manager : kdm-trinity.
I was able to log in as root and as a user; so access to all files was
possible, but applications requiring a display would not open. While
logged in as route, running startx opened a generic desktop in F7; but I
did not know what to do from that point to open a user.
Clearly something got broken in the upgrade, but I don't know exactly
what or how to fix it. Can anyone tell me what to do to get the desktop
back?
Ken Heard
28 Nov
28 Nov
12:02 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE no longer opens after upgrade
On 11/27/2012 02:33 PM, Ken Heard wrote:
Don't know if it'll help, but apt-get dist-upgrade handles changing
dependencies a lot better than upgrade. Might give that a try.
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New subject: [trinity-users] TDE no longer opens after upgrade
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Ken Heard wrote:
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First, on Nik's advice I ran "/etc/init.d/kdm-trinity restart" which did
nothing. I then looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and found no error messages.
Next, on Dan's advice I ran "apt-get dist-upgrade". It installed nine
more packages which "apt-get upgrade" for some reason had held back:
iceweasel, kdelibs-trinity, kdelibs4c2a-trinity, kdenetwork-trinity,
kopete-trinity, libgadu3, libmozjs17d, sudo-trinity and xulrunner17.0.
I then ran again "/etc/init.d/kdm-trinity restart". Lo and behold,
terminal F7 opened with the session manager. Thanks guys. Are any of
those packages essential for the desktop environment?
All of the foregoing brought back to memory a thread which I started on
2011-12-16 (KDE-Trinity 3.5.13 hung my machine), where I learned from
several people including Nik that "upgrade" in apt-get is really a
"safe-upgrade". The latter does not install new versions of currently
installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install
status of another package; it leaves them at their current version. The
apt-get upgrade seems to be the same as the aptitude safe-upgrade.
The aptitude full-upgrade appears to be similar but not necessarily the
same as the apt-get dist-upgrade. The excerpt from the aptitude manual
for full-upgrade reads as follows:
Upgrades installed packages to their most recent version, removing
or installing packages as necessary. This command is less
conservative than safe-upgrade and thus more likely to perform
unwanted actions. However, it is capable of upgrading packages that
safe-upgrade cannot upgrade.
The excerpt from the apt-get manual for dist-upgrade reads as follows:
Dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also
intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of
packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and it
will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of
less important ones if necessary. So, dist-upgrade command may remove
some packages.
So I for the foreseeable future I will stick to apt-get but take care to
respect the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade.
Regards, Ken
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