High everyone,
I have just installed Trinity from the binary repositories. I strictly followed the instructions on
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryInst...
but zypper complained about a missing dependency. I'd bet a lot that was the accessibility package, because I clearly remember that I thought "Heck, I'm not that disabled...".
It downloaded everything, then installed everything (at least it looked like that). But I couldn't get it to run. There was no startkde, no starttde, no kwin, no twin, no whatever. But it certainly installed a lot of files in /opt. To let you have a figure without sending the whole ls-lR:
$ du -sh /opt/* 61M /opt/kde3 377M /opt/trinity
That was yesterday.
Now before sending this email, I just called YaST to check back for the dependency message, which now is obviously altered to
trinity-desktop-3.5.13.2-2.oss123.opt.noarch requires trinity-tdeaddons >= 3.5.13.2, but this requirement cannot be provided
There is a package called trinity-kdeaddons in the repo, but its size is just 0 bytes; the corresponding debugsource seems healthy (3.4MiB). This is the same for trinity-tdeaccessibility (0 vs. 2.7MiB).
Other zero-size packages (except the meta packages) are: - trinity-gwenview-i18n-debugsource - trinity-kaffeine-mozilla-debugsource - trinity-kstreamripper-debugsource - trinity-libqt3-jni-devel - trinity-libtrinity-jni-devel - trinity-python-trinity-debugsource - trinity-rosegarden-debugsource - trinity-smartcardauth-debugsource - trinity-tdeadmin - trinity-tdeartwork (though YaST shows it as installed, but also describes it as a meta package) - trinity-tdebindings (shown as installed) - trinity-tdebindings-devel - trinity-tdebindings-java (shown as installed) - trinity-tdebindings-xparts-extras - trinity-tdegames - trinity-tdegames-devel - trinity-tdemultimedia - trinity-tdepim - trinity-tdesdk - trinity-tdesdk-devel - trinity-tdeutils - trinity-tdewebdev
That's what I've found; maybe I missed a few --- operating yast over a low bandwidth vnc is a bit clumsy.
Now YaST shows 1058 packages overall; rpm -qa reports 168 packages (I didn't count those shown as installed in YaST), and I'm sure that the download contained of 223 individual files.
I have no idea which of the packages didn't install due to unresolved dependencies, or which are simply not covered by the trinity-desktop meta package, but many things that I actually expected were not installed, like kwin/twin, startkde/starttde, etc.
when trying to install trinity-twin, YaST shows the missing tdeaddons dependency again, referring to trinity-desktop, not trinity-twin.
I select "break trinity-desktop-3.5.13.2-2.oss123.opt.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies" actually selects twin for installation. I will see how far this will work. Most of the above zero-sized files are not that important, but I definitely want to have kicker.
Anyway, I think it'd be great if this would be fixed. No need to do it today though :-)
Have a merry X-mas, best regards and thanks in advance,
Jagged
Le 24/12/2013 21:42, Jagged O'Neill a écrit :
High everyone,
I have just installed Trinity from the binary repositories. I strictly followed the instructions on
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryInst... [...]
Hello and merry Christmas :-) It sounds like a mirror issue. There are no 0-byte package in the official repository, so there should not be on the mirrors.
Do you know exactly which mirror you are redirected to ? The following URL :
|http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse12.3/...
Is just an automatic redirect to a Trinity mirror. Please, can you find the mirror you are redirect to, and also the architecture your are using (i686 or x86_64)
Thanks Francois
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 11:36:22AM +0100, François Andriot wrote:
Do you know exactly which mirror you are redirected to ? The following URL :
|http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse12.3/...
Is just an automatic redirect to a Trinity mirror. Please, can you find the mirror you are redirect to,
I don't know how to determine it with YaST (leave alone the rpm and zypper command line utils); stopping a process just in the moment that it has a network connection to the actual target, then examine netstat, may need multiple tiresome attempts (over the slow connection to between here and that host).
The best I can give you is that wget to the above URL is redirec- ted to
http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse12.3/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/
I don't know if it is a static redirection on a per-host/ip basis or if it may change from time to time.
and also the architecture your are using (i686 or x86_64)
PowerPC :-D
nope, just kidding ;-) it's x86_64
Thanks for your help,
Jagged
Le 26/12/2013 17:16, Jagged O'Neill a écrit :
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 11:36:22AM +0100, François Andriot wrote:
Do you know exactly which mirror you are redirected to ? The following URL :
|http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse12.3/...
Is just an automatic redirect to a Trinity mirror. Please, can you find the mirror you are redirect to,
I don't know how to determine it with YaST (leave alone the rpm and zypper command line utils); stopping a process just in the moment that it has a network connection to the actual target, then examine netstat, may need multiple tiresome attempts (over the slow connection to between here and that host).
The best I can give you is that wget to the above URL is redirec- ted to
http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse12.3/trinity-3.5.13/RPMS/
I don't know if it is a static redirection on a per-host/ip basis or if it may change from time to time.
and also the architecture your are using (i686 or x86_64)
PowerPC :-D
nope, just kidding ;-) it's x86_64
Thanks for your help,
Jagged
OK I've just installed an opensuse 12.3 x86_64 virtual machine, with default KDE4 installation, and I followed the instructions on the Trinity wiki. => It works well for me.
In Yast package manager, I see that some packages do not any have value in "size" column, but I believe this is normal: these are packages that do NOT contain any file (either meta-package like 'tdeaddons' or empty debugging package). So this is not a mirror issue after all.
When I try to install the Trinity meta-package "trinity-desktop", it works correctly. When I try the "trinity-tdebase" package, it works too.
By default, I have neither "/opt/kde3" directory, nor "/opt/trinity". I notice that you have a "/opt/kde3" directory. So I'm pretty sure that you have some kde3-related packages installed. There are some KDE3 packages in the main repository, even if you did not configure the opensuse-KDE3 repository.
List of packages to remove before installing Trinity (maybe there are others I'm unaware of): arts kdeaccessibility3 kdeartwork3 kdebase3 kdebindings3 kdeedu3 kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdemultimedia3 kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdesdk3 kdetoys3 kdeutils3 kdewebdev3
Please, make sure you have uninstalled them all, then try to install Trinity again. François