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On Thursday 21 November 2019 08:51:24 am William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Thursday 21 November 2019 06:25:42 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
As for that lost donation, perhaps I will find warmth in my heart, and enough money in my account, to make up for the creepy insincerity of the previous retracted-but-never-truly-offered donation of others. I can't promise anything now, but maybe in another couple months. I will put my money where somebody else only talks.
been thinking of sending something anyway, but retirement puts a crimp in one's wallet. besides I sent something a yr ago and got no acknowledgement which makes me worry about our founder.
There are worse things to invest in, than having a computer desktop that actually works.
Years ago I decided I was going to donate $200 per year to some open source project. Occasionally I’d split it up, but most often it went o Drupal, as that is (was [1]) the open source project my business relies on. Last year I sent it to TDE. This year I’m splitting it between TDE, MX Linux, and Backdrop CMS.
But, like Felmon, I received zero acknowledgment it was received. (To be fair, I’ve never received any acknowledgment from any donation I’ve made to people at xda-developers either, so maybe it’s just a sole proprietor thing?)
I’m pretty sure donations to TDE don’t make a dent in Tim’s account receivables, but . . .
Questions:
- Has anyone ever received a donation acknowledgment from Tim? - Is there a donation acknowledgment page somewhere? - Do we, the donators, think we should get one? - Tim how are you doing? (Talk to us man!)
OT Questions:
- Does anyone else make a set amount of donations per year? - Pro’s? Con’s? - What other methods do people use for rewarding open source?
Best All, Michael
[1] In case anyone cares (this was the last ‘prediction’ for the next year thread), here’s a overview explanation I did 2 years ago: https://www.drupal.org/forum/general/news-and-announcements/2018-02-11/predi...
On Thursday 21 November 2019 07:56:25 Michael wrote:
{Moving to new thread, might have snipped too much}
On Thursday 21 November 2019 08:51:24 am William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Thursday 21 November 2019 06:25:42 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
As for that lost donation, perhaps I will find warmth in my heart, and enough money in my account, to make up for the creepy insincerity of the previous retracted-but-never-truly-offered donation of others. I can't promise anything now, but maybe in another couple months. I will put my money where somebody else only talks.
been thinking of sending something anyway, but retirement puts a crimp in one's wallet. besides I sent something a yr ago and got no acknowledgement which makes me worry about our founder.
There are worse things to invest in, than having a computer desktop that actually works.
Years ago I decided I was going to donate $200 per year to some open source project. Occasionally I’d split it up, but most often it went o Drupal, as that is (was [1]) the open source project my business relies on. Last year I sent it to TDE. This year I’m splitting it between TDE, MX Linux, and Backdrop CMS.
But, like Felmon, I received zero acknowledgment it was received. (To be fair, I’ve never received any acknowledgment from any donation I’ve made to people at xda-developers either, so maybe it’s just a sole proprietor thing?)
I’m pretty sure donations to TDE don’t make a dent in Tim’s account receivables, but . . .
Questions:
- Has anyone ever received a donation acknowledgment from Tim?
- Is there a donation acknowledgment page somewhere?
- Do we, the donators, think we should get one?
- Tim how are you doing? (Talk to us man!)
About seven or eight years ago, I actually got a personal response by email from Tim, so I can testify to the actual existence of somebody who either is, or who pretends to be, the man himself.
As far as the mystery of his whereabouts, this seldom concerns me, since I am not a developer myself, and don't have to wait for Tim to do this or that to make something work. All I care is that TDE keeps going, and that eventually it is more widely available, or rather easier for ordinary users to install (.e.g, via standard repositories like Debian, Devuan, the 'Buntus, Slackware, or whatever). I have managed to adapt to the situation, but it took a long time to make the change from KDE3 to TDE, then from PC Linux to Kubuntu to Debian to Devuan, where at last I have found stability in the universe.
OT Questions:
- Does anyone else make a set amount of donations per year?
- Pro’s? Con’s?
- What other methods do people use for rewarding open source?
I base my meager donations on my sense of personal responsibility; or, if you will, guilt. It is not based on what others think of me, and I would prefer that others don't know whether I do or do not contribute to charity or "causes", whether good or bad. To advertise one's unselfishness rather defeats the point.
In this special case, I wanted to make a point, that one cannot retract what was never actually given to begin with. And then, once I am committed to giving the money, I cannot back down.
In another case, a few years ago, I donated money to a favorite local radio station, to keep them on the air. Now, I had been listening to them almost continuously for about 25 years, so when I had the money and they were in dire straits, it only seemed, again, like good karma, to pay for what I had been using already when suddenly I knew that I could afford to give a little.
My feeling, in relation to using TDE, is pretty much the same. I've been using it for FREE, and now when I have a little extra, I ought to give back some. It is always better to err on the side of generosity.
I don't have a formal policy; I give according to a strong impulse or feeling that tells me what I ought to do.
Bill
Best All, Michael
[1] In case anyone cares (this was the last ‘prediction’ for the next year thread), here’s a overview explanation I did 2 years ago: https://www.drupal.org/forum/general/news-and-announcements/2018-02-11/pred ictions-for-2018
On Thursday 21 November 2019 10:56:25 Michael wrote:
{Moving to new thread, might have snipped too much}
On Thursday 21 November 2019 08:51:24 am William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Thursday 21 November 2019 06:25:42 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
As for that lost donation, perhaps I will find warmth in my heart, and enough money in my account, to make up for the creepy insincerity of the previous retracted-but-never-truly-offered donation of others. I can't promise anything now, but maybe in another couple months. I will put my money where somebody else only talks.
been thinking of sending something anyway, but retirement puts a crimp in one's wallet. besides I sent something a yr ago and got no acknowledgement which makes me worry about our founder.
There are worse things to invest in, than having a computer desktop that actually works.
Years ago I decided I was going to donate $200 per year to some open source project. Occasionally I’d split it up, but most often it went o Drupal, as that is (was [1]) the open source project my business relies on. Last year I sent it to TDE. This year I’m splitting it between TDE, MX Linux, and Backdrop CMS.
But, like Felmon, I received zero acknowledgment it was received. (To be fair, I’ve never received any acknowledgment from any donation I’ve made to people at xda-developers either, so maybe it’s just a sole proprietor thing?)
I’m pretty sure donations to TDE don’t make a dent in Tim’s account receivables, but . . .
Questions:
- Has anyone ever received a donation acknowledgment from Tim?
- Is there a donation acknowledgment page somewhere?
- Do we, the donators, think we should get one?
It would be nice.
However the last time I saw a plea from Tim for donations, years ago now, I could not convince paypal that Tim was a registered recipient of funds, so I asked Tim on this list for a place to send a check, 2 or 3 times. Never got a reply. I am a firm believer in TANSTAAFL, have a bank balance that makes a $100 check annually un-noticable. Never getting a reply means its never been sent, but its there and I feel bad for not having supported what I think is a very worthwhile free software endeavor. I'm not a huge user of paypal, ebays click and done has worked simpler although my bank occasionally emails me a confirmation request, so theres been no real reason to use paypal. If I knew where to send it, its trivial to have my bank issue the check. But Tim never answered me, privately or on this list. So there it is.
- Tim how are you doing? (Talk to us man!)
OT Questions:
- Does anyone else make a set amount of donations per year?
- Pro’s? Con’s?
- What other methods do people use for rewarding open source?
Best All, Michael
[1] In case anyone cares (this was the last ‘prediction’ for the next year thread), here’s a overview explanation I did 2 years ago: https://www.drupal.org/forum/general/news-and-announcements/2018-02-11 /predictions-for-2018
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