Stefan Krusche wrote: That is the long route to setting 'last-used session'. As I said: "Settings > configure > sessions > save session (last-used saves open docs, new session doesn't)." Select the Settings 'save session' option to save the current session configuration, e.g. the OP's hidden sidebars and documents tool views. Select 'start new session' to get a blank slate every time Kate starts. Select 'load last used session' to reopen any files left open in the previous session. What you did was set 'load last used session' via the 'choose session' menu checkbox. The only reason to select 'choose session' is if you want to choose a saved session during Kate startup.

On Monday 19 December 2016 10.40:36 Leslie Turriff wrote: Maybe I found a way - seems to work for the moment. 1) setup Kate with no side bar/document windows 2) save the session under the name "default" 3) set up Kate to start with a new session and not to save any 4) Kate does *not* name it default.katesession, so I rename this "new" sessions to this default.katesession in /trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions and delete any other session I rebooted the computer and kate opens with no side bar and no document windows. I include copies of the two files in case. See if it works for youa and I'll report if it continues to work for me. Have a nice day, Thierry

On Monday 19 December 2016 22.30:00 Dave Lers wrote: Kate seems to not always react the same. I was about to answer that your directions dos *not* work here (openSuSE, TDE 14.0.0 and 14.0.3). I followed your suggestion on my laptop and Kate still opens with Documents and side bar. Now the settings seem to stick on my desktop. Before, setting "save session" on exit would bring back the "Documents" window. You are right, it does not if you don't save sessions. But it can't hurt. No session is saved anyway here (that may be because I some time choose to always start with a new session?). For me, the setting that works best is to not save sessions (automaticaly) and save them manually. As I do this only rarely, I don't want to have to choose a session at start either Not for me when I want to make sure someting will work also next time I start the computer. Thierry

On 2016/12/20 03:05 PM, deloptes wrote: Emanoil, actually the code to handle sessions for R14.1 has been fully rewritten, although not pushed yet. If you are interested, I can send you a patch with all the current changes and you can test locally. It would be helpful to have additional feedback from you. I have been using the new functionality for about a year and is quite stable. Let me know ;-) Cheers Michele

This whole sessions configuration paradigm in Kate is extremely confusing and totally non-intuitive. That said, I got Kate to refrain from opening the document view ONCE by 1) Delete .trinity/Share/Apps/Kate folder 2) Open Kate 2) Settings -> Configure Kate -> Session -> Load last-used session Settings -> Configure Kate -> Session -> Save session 3) Close Kate 4) Reopen Kate -- Yay! No document view! 5) Closed Kate I started this reply, and reopened Kate to verify the settings, and Surprise! The D....d document view is back. :-( It doesn't seem to matter much what settings I make, or whether or not I explicitly save the session or not; Kate insists that I should have the document view whether I like it or not. :-( Leslie On 2016-12-19 15:30:00 Dave Lers wrote:

No, it doesn't. I changed it to Read Only, but then when I opened Kate again, there's the document view. So I changed it back to Read/Write, and changed Kate-MDI-Sidebar-Visible=true to Kate-MDI-Sidebar-Visible=false and made it Read Only once again; but opening Kate still gives me the document view. IMO, Kate is seriously broken with regards to its Sessions management. Leslie On 2016-12-21 03:21:55 relosrl wrote: > Il 21/12/2016 10:02, Leslie Turriff ha scritto: > > 1) Delete .trinity/Share/Apps/Kate folder > > 2) Open Kate > > 2) Settings -> Configure Kate -> Session -> Load last-used session > > Settings -> Configure Kate -> Session -> Save session > > 3) Close Kate >

Dave Lers wrote: I didn't follow that much the discussion, so excuse me if I am repeating something already said. I use many sessions related to different work subjects in kate. I just tried open kate close/hide the document/file view, closed kate. After this I opened kate and the view was hidden as expected. The default session is a bit odd, so I stopped using default long time ago. I recommend using custom session. you can remove the default one after creating your own. regards

On Wednesday 21 December 2016 10.06:43 Leslie Turriff wrote: rm ~/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/default.katesession Thierry

On 2016/12/21 06:28 PM, Leslie Turriff wrote: The default session is actually hardwired in Kate's code (up to R14.0.x series). Even if you delete it, it will be recreated. Cheers Michele

Am Mittwoch 21 Dezember 2016 schrieb Thierry de Coulon: I think so either, because this still works from program interface as said before (I just tried again in a completely new TDE user account): 1) open kate the first time with a new, empty session directory 2) close the documents list (and/or side bar), save the session. There is only "Default session", so the running session, which is the default session, will be saved as default.session in kate/sessions/ (would be saved in default.session anyway, but without your changes) 3) next time you start kate, it will find default.session with your saved changes concerning the view of docs list/side bar. BUT: still strange is, that the second time I tried that, kate would not let me save the freshly opened session, but popped up a dialog to enter a name for the session to save. I then "opened" from within kate "Default session" (the only one in the list), which did not (!) revert to opened docs list/side bar, and after that I could save the session as is, that is, default.session. And this file apparently will be found kate starts the next. Stefan