First is the tde desktop looks a bit strange.
When I installed, because getting rid of gnome is such a pain in the ass, I chose xfce4 during the install, and although I've installed several hundred of the core trinity bits, I still have an xfce4 desktop.
/etc/X11/default-display-manager says twm. /etc/init.d has lightdm.
I'm getting the tde login but am not getting tde. And I can't run a root session in a Konsole, display 10 no perms.
I guess thats more than two problems. Do I rip lightdm out by its hair with an rm to it in etc/init.d or what to actually get a tde x session running?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-05 07:58 (UTC-0400):
First is the tde desktop looks a bit strange.
When I installed, because getting rid of gnome is such a pain in the ass, I chose xfce4 during the install, and although I've installed several hundred of the core trinity bits, I still have an xfce4 desktop.
/etc/X11/default-display-manager says twm. /etc/init.d has lightdm.
I'm getting the tde login but am not getting tde. And I can't run a root session in a Konsole, display 10 no perms.
I guess thats more than two problems. Do I rip lightdm out by its hair with an rm to it in etc/init.d or what to actually get a tde x session running?
At this installation, these were kernel cmdline inclusions: tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false Thus there was nothing to get rid of to get a good clean TDE installation. # dpkg -l | grep lightdm # # inxi -GxxSM System: Host: fi965 Kernel: 4.9.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 Desktop: Trinity R14.0.6 tk: Qt 3.5.0 wm: Twin dm: startx Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5B-Deluxe v: Rev 1.xx serial: MB-1234567890 BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1238 date: 09/30/2008 Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV620 PRO [Radeon HD 3470] vendor: Dell driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 1002:95c0 Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: ati resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV620 (DRM 2.49.0 / 4.9.0-8-amd64 LLVM 3.9.1) v: 3.3 Mesa 13.0.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes # ll /etc/alternatives/*n-manager lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Apr 29 2017 /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager -> /opt/trinity/bin/starttde # aptitude search libinp p libinput-bin - input device management and event handling library - udev quirks p libinput-dev - input device management and event handling library - development files p libinput-pad-dev - On-screen Input Pad to Send Characters with Mouse - dev p libinput-pad-xtest - On-screen Input Pad to Send Characters with Mouse - xtest p libinput-pad1 - On-screen Input Pad to Send Characters with Mouse - libs p libinput-tools - input device management and event handling library - command line tools v libinput-tools:any - p libinput10 - input device management and event handling library - shared library p xserver-xorg-input-libinput - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver p xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver (development headers) # dpkg -query | grep input ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.10.5-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.9.2-1+b1 amd64 X.Org X server -- mouse input driver # cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager /opt/trinity/bin/tdm # systemctl status tdm รข tdm.service - Trinity Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/tdm.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:tdm-trinity(1)
On 04/05/2019 04:58 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Do I rip lightdm out by its hair with an rm to it in etc/init.d or what to actually get a tde x session running?
Are you saying that lightdm isn't giving you the choice to select a Trinity session at the login screen? Have you actually installed enough of Trinity to get a desktop -- tde-trinity, tdebase-trinity, or tde-core-trinity -- or just "several hundred of the core trinity bits"? The only reason I can think of that the display manager wouldn't give you the choice, is if the desktop isn't installed.
I gotta say, it sure seems like you run into more problems with one Linux install than I've had in the last 10 years. I usually just install the XFCE version of whatever Debian flavor I'm using, install TDE, switch to it, and go.
On Friday 05 April 2019 09:13:36 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 04/05/2019 04:58 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Do I rip lightdm out by its hair with an rm to it in etc/init.d or what to actually get a tde x session running?
Are you saying that lightdm isn't giving you the choice to select a Trinity session at the login screen? Have you actually installed enough of Trinity to get a desktop -- tde-trinity, tdebase-trinity, or tde-core-trinity -- or just "several hundred of the core trinity bits"? The only reason I can think of that the display manager wouldn't give you the choice, is if the desktop isn't installed.
I gotta say, it sure seems like you run into more problems with one Linux install than I've had in the last 10 years. I usually just install the XFCE version of whatever Debian flavor I'm using, install TDE, switch to it, and go.
I finally groked that the tde login had a menu. and you could change the desktop, so now I do have tde running. Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-05 14:39 (UTC-0400):
I finally groked that the tde login had a menu. and you could change the desktop, so now I do have tde running. Thanks.
Down on or near line 463 of /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmrc is this:
UseTheme=true
I make it false. That enables the highly functional, good contrast, 15-20 year old default theme. Its options are all obvious.
Beginning around line 346 are fonts. I make them 50%-100% bigger, which enlarges the greeter window as necessary to fit.
Around line 318 I enable the analog clock.
If you use KControl to manage tdmrc, then all the comments and defaults may disappear from the file, shrinking it from over 20kb to as small as a triple digit size.
On Friday 05 April 2019 13.58:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
First is the tde desktop looks a bit strange.
When I installed, because getting rid of gnome is such a pain in the ass, I chose xfce4 during the install, and although I've installed several hundred of the core trinity bits, I still have an xfce4 desktop.
/etc/X11/default-display-manager says twm. /etc/init.d has lightdm.
I'm getting the tde login but am not getting tde. And I can't run a root session in a Konsole, display 10 no perms.
I guess thats more than two problems. Do I rip lightdm out by its hair with an rm to it in etc/init.d or what to actually get a tde x session running?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
I'd say you're running xfce on tdm. At the login you should have a way to choose your session.
I usually manage to install tde/tdm, set tdm as display-manager, choose tde at login, then remove Gnome 3.
Thierry
On Friday 05 April 2019 04:58:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
First is the tde desktop looks a bit strange.
When I installed, because getting rid of gnome is such a pain in the ass, I chose xfce4 during the install, and although I've installed several hundred of the core trinity bits, I still have an xfce4 desktop.
Try MATE instead. MATE is enough like TDE, KDE, etc., that I found it the next-best thing to having TDE installed (or at least available in the menu choices when running tasksel ... ).
I was able to do all the necessary intermediate stuff (i.e., between first installation and then actually running TDE).
When you need to install all those other packages, including Trinity's, MATE is better than XFCE or even LXDE as a desktop. I've also used the newer KDE, which I've heavily modified to make it behave better, but MATE is still my choice for when I am stuck in that stage of installation or rebuilding a system.
Bill
/etc/X11/default-display-manager says twm. /etc/init.d has lightdm.
I'm getting the tde login but am not getting tde. And I can't run a root session in a Konsole, display 10 no perms.
I guess thats more than two problems. Do I rip lightdm out by its hair with an rm to it in etc/init.d or what to actually get a tde x session running?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
If you don't already run Devuan, I'd suggest giving it a try, as I found most of my problems quickly went away when I got rid of systemd; but after trying several ways of installing Debian, then getting rid of systemd and using instead sysvinit, I found it much less bother just to start with Devuan and never touch systemd at all. Then *poof* almost like magic (because it took a few more *poofs* yet), my problems practically all vanished.
Bill
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