22 Jun
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22 Jun
'20
11:47 p.m.
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I
am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as
part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to
run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also,
Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
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6:55 p.m.
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I
have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install
the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to
run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also,
Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live
easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers
(slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Nik
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7:30 p.m.
On Monday 22 June 2020 14:55:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
Not on Ubuntu, debian stretch.
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming
and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux.
I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning
process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get
the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does
not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed
in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed
correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff
(which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost):
http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all
other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Nik
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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8:12 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 15:30:34 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Monday 22 June 2020 14:55:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Ooops, what's used there nowadays?
Nik
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Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
Not on Ubuntu, debian stretch.
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming
and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux.
I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning
process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get
the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does
not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed
in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed
correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff
(which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost):
http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all
other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Nik
Cheers, Gene Heskett
8:38 p.m.
On Monday 22 June 2020 16:12:50 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 15:30:34 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
R14.0.8/latest
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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- Louis D. Brandeis
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On Monday 22 June 2020 14:55:48 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
Ooops, what's used there nowadays?
Nik Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
Not on Ubuntu, debian stretch.
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems
programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it
comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part
of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop
Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to
get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop
does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not
listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed
correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was
correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK
stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$
svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall
all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again. Nik
Cheers, Gene Heskett 
7:41 p.m.
On Monday 22 June 2020 01:55:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
Hi Klaus,
Welcome to TDE!
Edit: I vote for using a live image (USB) first. That will definitely help
you get your feet wet and then you can (usually) install from that.
If you haven’t found this page, it should help some:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/configure.php
And, at the risk of giving you too many choices (which is rampant in the Linux
world), I’ll offer up:
MX Linux 19. It also is systemd free and has a live image (and built on AntiX
code).
https://mxlinux.org/current-release-features/
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_In…
That page needs an update:
R14.0.x series
MX-19 - Use debian buster packages
# # #
Handy chart of Distributions vs. versions [1]
Debian <> Ubuntu <> Devuan <> MX
11 (bullseye) <> 20.04 <> none <> MX-20? (not released yet)
10 (buster) <> 19.10 <> Beowulf * <> MX-19
Best Regards,
Michael
* I’m making the educated guess exegnulinux is based off Devuan (Beowulf).
[1] Snort, hopefully I didn’t copy/paste something wrong :(
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I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming and
consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have
decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided
to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the
installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not
activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the
"sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which
makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost):
http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other
login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
8:11 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 14:41:42 -0500
Michael scripsit:
On Monday 22 June 2020 01:55:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Hey, didn't know there's TDE for MX :)
Nik
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Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
Hi Klaus,
Welcome to TDE!
Edit: I vote for using a live image (USB) first. That will definitely help
you get your feet wet and then you can (usually) install from that.
If you haven’t found this page, it should help some:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/configure.php
And, at the risk of giving you too many choices (which is rampant in the Linux
world), I’ll offer up:
MX Linux 19. It also is systemd free and has a live image (and built on AntiX
code).
https://mxlinux.org/current-release-features/
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_In…
That page needs an update:
R14.0.x series
MX-19 - Use debian buster packages
# # #
Handy chart of Distributions vs. versions [1]
Debian <> Ubuntu <> Devuan <> MX
11 (bullseye) <> 20.04 <> none <> MX-20? (not released
yet)
10 (buster) <> 19.10 <> Beowulf * <> MX-19
Best Regards,
Michael
* I’m making the educated guess exegnulinux is based off Devuan (Beowulf).
[1] Snort, hopefully I didn’t copy/paste something wrong :( I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming and
consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have
decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided
to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the
installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not
activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the
"sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which
makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost):
http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other
login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again. 
7:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Activating the Trinity Desktop Environment
Klaus Cook wrote:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming and
consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have
decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided
to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the
installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate
when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions"
list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
May be it is better to try some live image first (CD, DVD or USB). No need
to install just copy the image to a USB (I prefer USB, cause easy to
maintaine and rewritable)
For example
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/focal/
or Slax
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Slax_with_Trinity
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7:20 p.m.
On Monday 22 June 2020 16:47:19 Klaus Cook wrote:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming and
consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have
decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided
to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the
installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate
when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions"
list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
If the Trinity desktop is already installed, open a shell (or console, or
konsole ...), and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity. Just in case you are
a total n00b, sudo means that you will need root privileges, meaning your
password.
For some reason, tdm-trinity does not get activated as your default desktop,
if you have other desktops installed (such as Gnome or KDE Plasma, etc.).
I did not like exegnulinux, myself. (Sorry, Nik!) It *seemed* to complete the
installation, but I never could get it to boot into the desktop. It would
just hang in boot process, and nothing happened. There is also Q4OS (I think
that's the name), which is pretty good, but bugged me in a lot of little
ways. I would maybe try out AntiX, as you can get that with TDE installed, I
seem to recall; it is a small and very fast distro. But I would only
recommend it for laptops, not desktops with more than a single internal hard
drive.
Bill
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9:34 p.m.
On 2020-06-22 14:20:38 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 16:47:19 Klaus Cook wrote:
This is a problem also in OpenSuSE, which uses update-alternatives to
manage
the various *dm settings. When I upgraded to 14.0.8-1 tdm disappeared from
the list of possible DMs in the login menu.
Manual configuration of update-alternatives is difficult to understand, and it
would be really nice if the OpenSuSE packager could add a post-installation
script to the trinity-tdm RPM package to do this?
Leslie
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in
Systems programming and
consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have
decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided
to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the
installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not
activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the
"sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you,
Klaus Cook
Houston, TX
If the Trinity desktop is already installed, open a shell (or console, or
konsole ...), and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity. Just in case you
are a total n00b, sudo means that you will need root privileges, meaning
your password.
For some reason, tdm-trinity does not get activated as your default
desktop, if you have other desktops installed (such as Gnome or KDE Plasma,
etc.).
I did not like exegnulinux, myself. (Sorry, Nik!) It *seemed* to complete
the installation, but I never could get it to boot into the desktop. It
would just hang in boot process, and nothing happened. There is also Q4OS
(I think that's the name), which is pretty good, but bugged me in a lot of
little ways. I would maybe try out AntiX, as you can get that with TDE
installed, I seem to recall; it is a small and very fast distro. But I
would only recommend it for laptops, not desktops with more than a single
internal hard drive.
Bill
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