I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
1. Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
2. How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500 Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Nik
On Monday 22 June 2020 14:55:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
- Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed
correctly?
- How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Not on Ubuntu, debian stretch.
Nik
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 15:30:34 -0400 Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Monday 22 June 2020 14:55:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
- Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed
correctly?
- How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Not on Ubuntu, debian stretch.
Nik
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Ooops, what's used there nowadays?
Nik
On Monday 22 June 2020 16:12:50 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 15:30:34 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Monday 22 June 2020 14:55:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
- Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed
correctly?
- How do I activate the desktop if the installation was
correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Not on Ubuntu, debian stretch.
Nik
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Ooops, what's used there nowadays?
Nik
R14.0.8/latest
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 June 2020 01:55:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Hi Klaus,
Welcome to TDE!
Edit: I vote for using a live image (USB) first. That will definitely help you get your feet wet and then you can (usually) install from that.
If you haven’t found this page, it should help some:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/configure.php
And, at the risk of giving you too many choices (which is rampant in the Linux world), I’ll offer up:
MX Linux 19. It also is systemd free and has a live image (and built on AntiX code).
https://mxlinux.org/current-release-features/
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Ins...
That page needs an update:
R14.0.x series MX-19 - Use debian buster packages
# # #
Handy chart of Distributions vs. versions [1]
Debian <> Ubuntu <> Devuan <> MX 11 (bullseye) <> 20.04 <> none <> MX-20? (not released yet) 10 (buster) <> 19.10 <> Beowulf * <> MX-19
Best Regards, Michael
* I’m making the educated guess exegnulinux is based off Devuan (Beowulf). [1] Snort, hopefully I didn’t copy/paste something wrong :(
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Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 14:41:42 -0500 Michael scripsit:
On Monday 22 June 2020 01:55:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 22 Jun 18:47:19 -0500
Klaus Cook scripsit:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May I point you to exegnulinux? It comes with TDE, has no GTK stuff (which makes live easier) and has no systemd (equiv. of M$ svchost): http://exegnulinux.net/
If you want to stay with ubuntu: Install tdm-trinity, uninstall all other login managers (slim, gdm ...), and try again.
Hi Klaus,
Welcome to TDE!
Edit: I vote for using a live image (USB) first. That will definitely help you get your feet wet and then you can (usually) install from that.
If you haven’t found this page, it should help some:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/configure.php
And, at the risk of giving you too many choices (which is rampant in the Linux world), I’ll offer up:
MX Linux 19. It also is systemd free and has a live image (and built on AntiX code).
https://mxlinux.org/current-release-features/
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Ins...
That page needs an update:
R14.0.x series MX-19 - Use debian buster packages
# # #
Handy chart of Distributions vs. versions [1]
Debian <> Ubuntu <> Devuan <> MX 11 (bullseye) <> 20.04 <> none <> MX-20? (not released yet) 10 (buster) <> 19.10 <> Beowulf * <> MX-19
Best Regards, Michael
- I’m making the educated guess exegnulinux is based off Devuan (Beowulf).
[1] Snort, hopefully I didn’t copy/paste something wrong :(
Hey, didn't know there's TDE for MX :)
Nik
Klaus Cook wrote:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
May be it is better to try some live image first (CD, DVD or USB). No need to install just copy the image to a USB (I prefer USB, cause easy to maintaine and rewritable)
For example http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/focal/
or Slax https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Slax_with_Trinity
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On Monday 22 June 2020 16:47:19 Klaus Cook wrote:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
If the Trinity desktop is already installed, open a shell (or console, or konsole ...), and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity. Just in case you are a total n00b, sudo means that you will need root privileges, meaning your password.
For some reason, tdm-trinity does not get activated as your default desktop, if you have other desktops installed (such as Gnome or KDE Plasma, etc.).
I did not like exegnulinux, myself. (Sorry, Nik!) It *seemed* to complete the installation, but I never could get it to boot into the desktop. It would just hang in boot process, and nothing happened. There is also Q4OS (I think that's the name), which is pretty good, but bugged me in a lot of little ways. I would maybe try out AntiX, as you can get that with TDE installed, I seem to recall; it is a small and very fast distro. But I would only recommend it for laptops, not desktops with more than a single internal hard drive.
Bill
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On 2020-06-22 14:20:38 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 16:47:19 Klaus Cook wrote:
I am 80 years old and retired after a career in Systems programming and consulting, but I am a complete novice when it comes to Linux. I have decided to try Ubuntu 20.04 and as part of the learning process I decided to install the Trinity Desktop Environment.
After struggling through the installation I finally was able to get the installation to run without errors, however, the Desktop does not activate when logging into Ubuntu. Also, Trinity is not listed in the "sessions" list on the log in page.
Is there anyway to check if the installation was completed correctly?
How do I activate the desktop if the installation was correct?
Thank you, Klaus Cook Houston, TX
If the Trinity desktop is already installed, open a shell (or console, or konsole ...), and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity. Just in case you are a total n00b, sudo means that you will need root privileges, meaning your password.
For some reason, tdm-trinity does not get activated as your default desktop, if you have other desktops installed (such as Gnome or KDE Plasma, etc.).
This is a problem also in OpenSuSE, which uses update-alternatives to manage the various *dm settings. When I upgraded to 14.0.8-1 tdm disappeared from the list of possible DMs in the login menu. Manual configuration of update-alternatives is difficult to understand, and it would be really nice if the OpenSuSE packager could add a post-installation script to the trinity-tdm RPM package to do this?
Leslie
I did not like exegnulinux, myself. (Sorry, Nik!) It *seemed* to complete the installation, but I never could get it to boot into the desktop. It would just hang in boot process, and nothing happened. There is also Q4OS (I think that's the name), which is pretty good, but bugged me in a lot of little ways. I would maybe try out AntiX, as you can get that with TDE installed, I seem to recall; it is a small and very fast distro. But I would only recommend it for laptops, not desktops with more than a single internal hard drive.
Bill
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