Hi all!
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not. 2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Does anybody know how I can solve these issues?
Nik
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
- TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them.
Libreoffice 7 does not. 2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Does anybody know how I can solve these issues?
Apache Open Office - I gave up on Libreoffice since it went gnomish
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:54:16 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" office@klepp.biz wrote:
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
- TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not.
cups support is technically optional—make sure the packager compiled it in.
- Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Beat the people working on GTK3 about the head with a blunt instrument until they produce something that's usable outside the context of Gnome? (Also, that "GDK_" looks suspicious—typo?)
It seems to be possible to compile LibreOffice 7 against QT5/KDE5 instead of GTK3, but that drags in a bunch of KDE5 libs. I'm not sure about compiling against just QT5, or trying to turn off both QT5 and GTK3 in the hope of reverting to GTK2—the ebuild doesn't say whether either of those setups is broken, or they were just never tested. And you'd have to armwrestle LO's build system, which looks ugly.
E. Liddell
Ok, problem solved :)
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 30 Nov 15:34:38 -0500 E. Liddell scripsit:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:54:16 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" office@klepp.biz wrote:
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
- TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not.
cups support is technically optional—make sure the packager compiled it in.
- Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Beat the people working on GTK3 about the head with a blunt instrument until they produce something that's usable outside the context of Gnome? (Also, that "GDK_" looks suspicious—typo?)
It is definitly GDK_DPI_SCALE - it interfers with font size given in "gtk-font-name" in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 , which interestingly is used by GTK3 applications for default font. You can do interesting things with that variable and e.g. firefox or chromium ... and the developers are definitly brainwashed.
It seems to be possible to compile LibreOffice 7 against QT5/KDE5 instead of GTK3, but that drags in a bunch of KDE5 libs. I'm not sure about compiling against just QT5, or trying to turn off both QT5 and GTK3 in the hope of reverting to GTK2—the ebuild doesn't say whether either of those setups is broken, or they were just never tested. And you'd have to armwrestle LO's build system, which looks ugly.
I installed libreoffice-qt5 and libreoffice-gtk3 (libreoffice-gtk2 is not available any more) and then had to set "SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kf5". I don't know if it uses GTK3 or QT5 now, but at least it uses the font size from ~/.gtkrc-2.0 now ... *sigh*
Nik
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Am Montag, 30. November 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
I installed libreoffice-qt5 and libreoffice-gtk3 (libreoffice-gtk2 is not available any more) and then had to set "SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kf5". I don't know if it uses GTK3 or QT5 now, but at least it uses the font size from ~/.gtkrc-2.0 now ... *sigh*
It's there…
$ acp libreoffice-gtk2 libreoffice-gtk2: Installiert: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 Installationskandidat: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 Versionstabelle: *** 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 500 500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4 500 500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main amd64 Packages
My2¢
Kind regards, Stefan
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 1 Dec 14:36:05 +0100 Stefan Krusche via tde-users scripsit:
Am Montag, 30. November 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
I installed libreoffice-qt5 and libreoffice-gtk3 (libreoffice-gtk2 is not available any more) and then had to set "SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kf5". I don't know if it uses GTK3 or QT5 now, but at least it uses the font size from ~/.gtkrc-2.0 now ... *sigh*
It's there…
Yep, but the T14 requires Chimaera :)
Ok, here's the solution: - remove avahi and friends, they kill DNS. - create /etc/cups/clients.conf with this line:
ServerName <ip-of-cups-server>
- restart cups.
And now you can print from libreoffice and all that GTK infested packages, too.
Nik
$ acp libreoffice-gtk2 libreoffice-gtk2: Installiert: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 Installationskandidat: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 Versionstabelle: *** 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 500 500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4 500 500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main amd64 Packages
My2¢
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On Monday 30 November 2020 13.54:16 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
- TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice
7 does not
I have LO7 installed on Debian 9 (and won't change it on my main Debian 10 machine yet because I only change version at the start of summer as I often find I have to reformat many documents), but there LO 7 found my cups printers without any problem.
AFAIK I don't use avahi and have almost everything runing with fixed IP, don't know if that plays a role...
Thierry
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 30 Nov 22:31:00 +0100 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit:
On Monday 30 November 2020 13.54:16 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
- TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice
7 does not
I have LO7 installed on Debian 9 (and won't change it on my main Debian 10 machine yet because I only change version at the start of summer as I often find I have to reformat many documents), but there LO 7 found my cups printers without any problem.
can you post a list of your libreoffice packages? e.g. $ dpkg -l|awk '/libreoffice/{print $2}'
AFAIK I don't use avahi and have almost everything runing with fixed IP, don't know if that plays a role...
I think I miss a package from the 200something libreoffice packagedumpyard. Probably something "cups".
Nik
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On Monday 30 November 2020 23.16:19 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
can you post a list of your libreoffice packages? e.g. $ dpkg -l|awk '/libreoffice/{print $2}'
Here it is :
libobasis7.0-libreofficekit-data libreoffice libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-evolution libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk3 libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-help-fr libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-l10n-fr libreoffice-math libreoffice-ogltrans libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-script-provider-bsh libreoffice-script-provider-js libreoffice-script-provider-python libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer libreoffice6.0-debian-menus libreoffice7.0 libreoffice7.0-base libreoffice7.0-calc libreoffice7.0-debian-menus libreoffice7.0-dict-en libreoffice7.0-dict-es libreoffice7.0-dict-fr libreoffice7.0-draw libreoffice7.0-en-gb libreoffice7.0-en-us libreoffice7.0-impress libreoffice7.0-math libreoffice7.0-ure libreoffice7.0-writer
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