30 Nov
2020
30 Nov
'20
12:54 p.m.
Hi all!
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not.
2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33
does not work any more.
Does anybody know how I can solve these issues?
Nik
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30 Nov
5:39 p.m.
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just
ran across 3
problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them.
Libreoffice 7 does not. 2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do.
The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Does anybody know how I can solve these issues?
Apache Open Office - I gave up on Libreoffice since it went gnomish
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8:34 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:54:16 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just
ran across 3 problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not.
cups support is technically optional—make sure the packager compiled it in.
2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The
workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Beat the people working on GTK3 about the head with a blunt instrument until
they produce something that's usable outside the context of Gnome? (Also,
that "GDK_" looks suspicious—typo?)
It seems to be possible to compile LibreOffice 7 against QT5/KDE5 instead of
GTK3, but that drags in a bunch of KDE5 libs. I'm not sure about compiling
against just QT5, or trying to turn off both QT5 and GTK3 in the hope of
reverting to GTK2—the ebuild doesn't say whether either of those setups is
broken, or they were just never tested. And you'd have to armwrestle LO's
build system, which looks ugly.
E. Liddell
10:12 p.m.
Ok, problem solved :)
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 30 Nov 15:34:38 -0500
E. Liddell scripsit:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:54:16 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
It is definitly GDK_DPI_SCALE - it interfers with font size given in
"gtk-font-name" in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 , which interestingly is used by GTK3
applications for default font. You can do interesting things with that variable and e.g.
firefox or chromium ... and the developers are definitly brainwashed.
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I
just ran across 3 problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not.
cups support is technically optional—make sure the packager compiled it in.
2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do.
The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more.
Beat the people working on GTK3 about the head with a blunt instrument until
they produce something that's usable outside the context of Gnome? (Also,
that "GDK_" looks suspicious—typo?) It seems to be possible to compile LibreOffice 7
against QT5/KDE5 instead of
GTK3, but that drags in a bunch of KDE5 libs. I'm not sure about compiling
against just QT5, or trying to turn off both QT5 and GTK3 in the hope of
reverting to GTK2—the ebuild doesn't say whether either of those setups is
broken, or they were just never tested. And you'd have to armwrestle LO's
build system, which looks ugly.
I installed libreoffice-qt5 and libreoffice-gtk3 (libreoffice-gtk2 is not available any
more) and then had to set "SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kf5". I don't know if it uses
GTK3 or QT5 now, but at least it uses the font size from ~/.gtkrc-2.0 now ... *sigh*
Nik
E. Liddell
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1:36 p.m.
Am Montag, 30. November 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
I installed libreoffice-qt5 and libreoffice-gtk3
(libreoffice-gtk2 is
not available any more) and then had to set "SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kf5".
I don't know if it uses GTK3 or QT5 now, but at least it uses the
font size from ~/.gtkrc-2.0 now ... *sigh*
It's there…
$ acp libreoffice-gtk2
libreoffice-gtk2:
Installiert: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6
Installationskandidat: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6
Versionstabelle:
*** 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main amd64 Packages
My2¢
Kind regards,
Stefan
1:54 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 1 Dec 14:36:05 +0100
Stefan Krusche via tde-users scripsit:
Am Montag, 30. November 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp:
Yep, but the T14 requires Chimaera :)
Ok, here's the solution:
- remove avahi and friends, they kill DNS.
- create /etc/cups/clients.conf with this line:
ServerName <ip-of-cups-server>
- restart cups.
And now you can print from libreoffice and all that GTK infested packages, too.
Nik
I installed libreoffice-qt5 and libreoffice-gtk3
(libreoffice-gtk2 is
not available any more) and then had to set "SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kf5".
I don't know if it uses GTK3 or QT5 now, but at least it uses the
font size from ~/.gtkrc-2.0 now ... *sigh*
It's there…
$ acp libreoffice-gtk2
libreoffice-gtk2:
Installiert: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6
Installationskandidat: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6
Versionstabelle:
*** 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main amd64 Packages
My2¢
Kind regards,
Stefan
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9:31 p.m.
On Monday 30 November 2020 13.54:16 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3
problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice
7 does not
I have LO7 installed on Debian 9 (and won't change it on my main Debian 10
machine yet because I only change version at the start of summer as I often
find I have to reformat many documents), but there LO 7 found my cups
printers without any problem.
AFAIK I don't use avahi and have almost everything runing with fixed IP, don't
know if that plays a role...
Thierry
10:16 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 30 Nov 22:31:00 +0100
Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit:
On Monday 30 November 2020 13.54:16 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
can you post a list of your libreoffice packages? e.g.
$ dpkg -l|awk '/libreoffice/{print $2}'
Hi all!
I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3
problems:
1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice
7 does not
I have LO7 installed on Debian 9 (and won't change it on my main Debian 10
machine yet because I only change version at the start of summer as I often
find I have to reformat many documents), but there LO 7 found my cups
printers without any problem. AFAIK I don't use avahi and have almost everything
runing with fixed IP, don't
know if that plays a role...
I think I miss a package from the 200something
libreoffice packagedumpyard. Probably something "cups".
Nik
Thierry
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1 Dec
6 a.m.
On Monday 30 November 2020 23.16:19 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
can you post a list of your libreoffice packages?
e.g.
$ dpkg -l|awk '/libreoffice/{print $2}'
Here it is :
libobasis7.0-libreofficekit-data
libreoffice
libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
libreoffice-base
libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-base-drivers
libreoffice-calc
libreoffice-common
libreoffice-core
libreoffice-draw
libreoffice-evolution
libreoffice-gnome
libreoffice-gtk3
libreoffice-help-en-us
libreoffice-help-fr
libreoffice-impress
libreoffice-java-common
libreoffice-l10n-fr
libreoffice-math
libreoffice-ogltrans
libreoffice-pdfimport
libreoffice-report-builder
libreoffice-report-builder-bin
libreoffice-script-provider-bsh
libreoffice-script-provider-js
libreoffice-script-provider-python
libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql
libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-style-tango
libreoffice-writer
libreoffice6.0-debian-menus
libreoffice7.0
libreoffice7.0-base
libreoffice7.0-calc
libreoffice7.0-debian-menus
libreoffice7.0-dict-en
libreoffice7.0-dict-es
libreoffice7.0-dict-fr
libreoffice7.0-draw
libreoffice7.0-en-gb
libreoffice7.0-en-us
libreoffice7.0-impress
libreoffice7.0-math
libreoffice7.0-ure
libreoffice7.0-writer
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