I know exactly what Lisi is talking about. There's a growing trend that's moving away from function toward flash. Web designers are doing three things. 1. Using all websites as POS sites (check out verizon's nightmare of a site). 2. Using pale, small fonts against similarly coloured backgrounds (grey letters against a white bg). Using fonts that are "cool" rather than legable. 3. Designing websites so they can be used by mobile devices as well as standard screen sized machines. Rather than building two.
This trend is expanding to other things. All of this leads to unreadable pages, emails etc.
BTW, I have kmail set to show plain text as default. And I take over the fonts on pages using the build in tools/settings.
Lisi try check out the settings. See if you can alter the fonts, and set it to display text as the default. It might help.
I know this is exactly helpful, but...
Kate
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 16:51:43 Mike Bird wrote:
On Wed May 6 2015 06:46:34 Lisi Reisz wrote:
An HTML email can be shown as rendered HTML, which I can't read, or the underlying HTML source code.
Hi Lisi,
I'm guessing maybe bad color contrast or fonts too small, but I'd like to know for sure.
So that techies can better understand the issues, can you give us some insight into the problems of reading the rendered HTML?
Hi, Mike,
You've hit the nail right on the head! Except that, in addition, the fonts are apt to be chosen for "prettiness" rather than clarity. The exact font can make an enormous difference.
I did ask my power supplier the other day whether it was selling pictures or electricity. (It likes small writing in pale green on pale yellow. How on earth do even completely sighted people manage to read that??)
Thanks very much. Lisi
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On Wednesday 06 May 2015 19:32:53 Kate Draven wrote:
BTW, I have kmail set to show plain text as default. And I take over the fonts on pages using the build in tools/settings.
Lisi try check out the settings. See if you can alter the fonts, and set it to display text as the default. It might help.
I know this is exactly helpful, but...
Thanks, Kate. Yes, I have all the settings I can find on KMail, set to be as helpful as possible, and it is the fact that in almost every case they are so good and figurable that makes me reluctant to leave KMail. That and the fact it uses Maildir.
I have large Bitstream Vera Sans, adjusted to how much I actually need to read a particular pane. I display in plain text whenever possible, which is most of the time. And usually when I can't, I just don't read the email.
But there is a rump that determinedly is only in HTML, that I cannot read and need to, like my grocery order confirmation. The site is a nightmare so I make a lot of mistakes, and the order confirmation is so difficult to read that if I am tired I can't check it.
I currently have no ice cream. I made a mistake on my order. Worse things happen at sea, but I fancy some ice cream!!
Lisi
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From there you can rid it, of all the html crap. I've had to do that too.
Kate
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
On Wednesday 06 May 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 19:32:53 Kate Draven wrote:
BTW, I have kmail set to show plain text as default. And I take over the fonts on pages using the build in tools/settings.
Lisi try check out the settings. See if you can alter the fonts, and set it to display text as the default. It might help.
I know this is exactly helpful, but...
Thanks, Kate. Yes, I have all the settings I can find on KMail, set to be as helpful as possible, and it is the fact that in almost every case they are so good and figurable that makes me reluctant to leave KMail. That and the fact it uses Maildir.
I have large Bitstream Vera Sans, adjusted to how much I actually need to read a particular pane. I display in plain text whenever possible, which is most of the time. And usually when I can't, I just don't read the email.
But there is a rump that determinedly is only in HTML, that I cannot read and need to, like my grocery order confirmation. The site is a nightmare so I make a lot of mistakes, and the order confirmation is so difficult to read that if I am tired I can't check it.
I currently have no ice cream. I made a mistake on my order. Worse things happen at sea, but I fancy some ice cream!!
Lisi
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On Wednesday 06 May 2015 20:15:42 Kate Draven wrote:
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From there you can rid it, of all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly enlarged. But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make a different mistake this time.
Lisi
On Thursday 07 May 2015 10:25:35 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 20:15:42 Kate Draven wrote:
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From there you can rid it, of all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly enlarged. But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make a different mistake this time.
Lisi
Oh, my. Another ice cream addict. I swear that stuff will be the cause of my early demise. Oh wait, at 80, its too late for that already. ;-)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-05-07 15:25 (UTC+0100):
Kate Draven wrote:
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From there you can rid it, of all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly enlarged. But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
I'm surprised Kmail can't zoom HTML email. SeaMonkey Mail can, just as it can disregard the HTML component of multipart MIME messages.
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make a different mistake this time.
I was a chocolate ice cream addict until nearly a year ago when I changed my diet radically. Along with most breads, I dropped all dairy except cottage cheese for the first 6 months, and lost over 30 lbs. (15% of total body weight) simply from the dietary change to an abundance of greens, onions, mushrooms and nuts based on a PBS program I saw on TV by Dr. Fuhrman[1]. I fulfil my chocolate cravings since then with semi-sweet morsels made for chocolate chip cookies.
On Thursday 07 May 2015 11:58:32 Felix Miata wrote:
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-05-07 15:25 (UTC+0100):
Kate Draven wrote:
Ah, take the email and save it as plain text. From there you can rid it, of all the html crap.
Or open it with a browser. At least it can then be significantly enlarged. But it would be nice just to be able to read it!
I'm surprised Kmail can't zoom HTML email. SeaMonkey Mail can, just as it can disregard the HTML component of multipart MIME messages.
PS, I can't believe you're without ice cream, the horror.
Next delivery Saturday. The end is in sight. Provided taht I make a different mistake this time.
I was a chocolate ice cream addict until nearly a year ago when I changed my diet radically. Along with most breads, I dropped all dairy except cottage cheese for the first 6 months, and lost over 30 lbs. (15% of total body weight) simply from the dietary change to an abundance of greens, onions, mushrooms and nuts based on a PBS program I saw on TV by Dr. Fuhrman[1]. I fulfil my chocolate cravings since then with semi-sweet morsels made for chocolate chip cookies.
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter you ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't enough snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet, get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on. :-D
Find Dr. Fuhrman's video and watch it.
On 05/08/2015 04:11 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter you ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't enough snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet, get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on. :-D
Find Dr. Fuhrman's video and watch it.
To loose 8 kg in 8 months is the easy part. To keep it like that for the next 2 years is H E L L I went from 105 kg to around 76 in 2 years. It was fun doing so. The next 20 years , including now.....not funny at all
On 08/05/15 02:40, Tony Wolfs wrote:
On 05/08/2015 04:11 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter you ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't enough snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet, get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on. :-D
Find Dr. Fuhrman's video and watch it.
To loose 8 kg in 8 months is the easy part. To keep it like that for the next 2 years is H E L L I went from 105 kg to around 76 in 2 years. It was fun doing so. The next 20 years , including now.....not funny at all
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Oh <Deity/ >, every bodies body has subtly different chemistry so different diets work or don't work for different people.
One thing we do have in common is, muscles burn fat. I got an exercise belt and you can pretty much eat what you like as long as you put it on three times a day, 30 minutes at a time. I've read that you shouldn't use one if you have high blood pressure, so get that down first, then use the belt.
In three days you'll feel the difference, months you'll see the difference, in 6 months your friends will and in 9 months everyone else will.
I juiced mine up with two 4-AA battery packs in parallel containing rechargeable batteries, 4x1.2 = 4.8, replacing the puny 3xAAA non-rechargeable ones, 3x1.5 = 4.5.
The one I got had several programs which train you into getting used to it. It also doesn't use gel, just dampen the conductive pads and your tummy with plain tap water and slap it on.
Don't over do it though. I thought "this isn't that strong, I'll keep hitting restart a couple of times". The next day my stomach muscles had swollen from the equivalent of a couple of thousand sit-ups, so I gave it a rest for a week.
Initially I had to use the belt extension (it's uses Velcro too) but before long I didn't need it.
Give it a try!
Regards, Philip Ashmore
And then get hit while crossing the street.
:-D
--- Original Message --- From: Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...) Date: Thu, May 7, 2015
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter you ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't enough snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet, get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on. :-D
On Friday 08 May 2015 00:46:34 Tini wrote:
And then get hit while crossing the street.
:-D
Or silently shot, crawling out of a bedroom window at 4AM. ;-) Camera shutters don't make that much noise.
In a past life I was handy with a camera loaded with IR film and IR flashbulbs. Divorce lawyers paid well for the output of my darkroom sink & trays. Then they decided no-fault divorces was ok, so there went that business all to zip.
Good grief folks, that was 40+ years ago. Don't get old, you remember things like it was just last year.
--- Original Message --- From: Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] OT-food (was: Bug 2440...) Date: Thu, May 7, 2015
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-05-07 14:09 (UTC-0400):
I'd like to get rid of 20 lbs, my diabetes would be a hell of a lot easier to control. But its either starve all day & gorge for dinner, or eat when I'm hungry, either manages to keep me at about 170. I haven't got brains enough to quit when theres a bag of chips laying here, or soda crackers & extra crunchy Jif PB.
Don't buy chips or soda crackers, and especially don't buy peanut butter you ever saw advertised on TV. Buy peanut butter made entirely from peanuts, or peanuts and salt. Snack on nuts: peanuts, soy nuts, pistachios, sunflower seeds, cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. Good fats from nuts kill hunger without providing significant sugars, in addition to providing nutrients your body is hungry for that are missing from bag and boxed "foods". If nuts aren't enough snacking, snack on raw carrots or celery, which consume more calories to digest than the calories they provide. If you must eat crackers, buy the ones with only whole wheat, oil and salt in the ingredients list, and eat them either plain or with real peanut butter (yummy like candy if you add cinnamon and a dribble of honey) or apple butter. Popcorn works well too if you skip the addition of chemicals and fats other than olive oil. If you crave sweet, get if from fresh or frozen fruit, not a box or bag.
-15% of body weight in less than 8 months by changing nothing other than what's listed on my grocery store receipts, and thus what I find on my copious trips into the kitchen. What isn't there doesn't get snacked on.
:-D
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Fri, 8 May 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
... Good grief folks, that was 40+ years ago. Don't get old, you remember things like it was just last year.
heh... +1 And, you cannot remember if you ate breakfast this morning.
Jonesy
On Friday 08 May 2015 07:45:20 Jonesy wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
... Good grief folks, that was 40+ years ago. Don't get old, you remember things like it was just last year.
heh... +1 And, you cannot remember if you ate breakfast this morning.
Jonesy
Well, I my case its because I haven't had any yet. :) And may not have anything till mid-afternoon. I just put the coffee on at about 8:15 localtime.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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