On Sunday 19 July 2020 07:21:09 pm Michael wrote: > This seems too easy. > > ########### > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:05 pm > the files that we use to define what's in > mx-packageinstaller->popular apps are XML files. there are even > places for screenshots, pre and post install scripts if extra steps > are needed, like adding repos. > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist > ########### > > I found 4 examples with external repositories > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/search?q=re >posi tory &unscoped_q=repository > > To me ‘spotify_64.pm’ seems the closest match to what I believe > we’d want. ‘airvpn.pm’ is the most complex, probably good for > example/reference. In any event I copy/pasted/edited what I could > (attached as tde_64.pm). Which probably needs to go into the TDE > git somewhere. > > Things that definitely need checking: > > - <installable> architecture(s) (I picked 64, not completely sure > that’s correct). > - method/place for # Import GPG signing key. (needs review by MX > dev). - when to use sudo and when it’s not needed (got no real clue > why some commands use it). > - <description> needs an official English description and then as > many translations as we can do. > > We also need a TDE developer to interface with dolphin_oracle > directly for the ‘official’ request to add it to their system. > > Anything else I can help with let me know, > Michael - Updated .pm per dolphin_oracle comments. - Could use newer screenshot(s) posted to: - - https://www.trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php - - All those are from 2014. - - If at all possible do one similar to https://www.trinitydesktop.org/media/screenshots/large/tde1.png so that it includes the full, visible, "The Trinity Desktop is a full software desktop..." paragraph. (but possibly I don’t understand the use of that screenshot, so maybe not?) - .pm should be renamed to tde.pm if TDE is all architecture. https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=59309 > ########### by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:13 pm you don't need sudo anywhere. the script runs elevated already. if your packages are 64bit only, the 64 is appropriate. If you also have 32 bit packages, then "all" is appropriate. you will want to run an apt-get update in the post-uninstall area since you are removing a list. typically I don't remove list files unless there is a chance of some conflict, in which case they should not be left enabled at all. (deb-multimedia is an example here, good packages, but leaving the repo enabled is bad for mx). for the key, download into /tmp instead of /root. remove the temporary downloaded deb after install. we prefer the deb-src entries to be commented out by default. our debian.list file is a good example. > ###########

On Monday 20 July 2020 12:28:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Mon, 20 Jul 11:31:17 -0500 > > Michael scripsit: > > On Sunday 19 July 2020 07:21:09 pm Michael wrote: > > > This seems too easy. > > > > > > ########### > > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:05 pm > > > the files that we use to define what's in > > > mx-packageinstaller->popular apps are XML files. there are > > > even places for screenshots, pre and post install scripts if > > > extra steps are needed, like adding repos. > > > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist > > > ########### > > > > > > I found 4 examples with external repositories > > > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/search > > >?q=re posi tory &unscoped_q=repository > > > > > > To me ‘spotify_64.pm’ seems the closest match to what I > > > believe we’d want. ‘airvpn.pm’ is the most complex, probably > > > good for example/reference. In any event I copy/pasted/edited > > > what I could (attached as tde_64.pm). Which probably needs to > > > go into the TDE git somewhere. > > > > > > Things that definitely need checking: > > > > > > - <installable> architecture(s) (I picked 64, not completely > > > sure that’s correct). > > > - method/place for # Import GPG signing key. (needs review by > > > MX dev). - when to use sudo and when it’s not needed (got no > > > real clue why some commands use it). > > > - <description> needs an official English description and then > > > as many translations as we can do. > > > > > > We also need a TDE developer to interface with dolphin_oracle > > > directly for the ‘official’ request to add it to their system. > > > > > > Anything else I can help with let me know, > > > Michael > > > > - Updated .pm per dolphin_oracle comments. > > > > - Could use newer screenshot(s) posted to: > > - - https://www.trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php > > - - All those are from 2014. > > - - If at all possible do one similar to > > https://www.trinitydesktop.org/media/screenshots/large/tde1.png > > so that it includes the full, visible, "The Trinity Desktop is a > > full software desktop..." paragraph. (but possibly I don’t > > understand the use of that screenshot, so maybe not?) > > > > - .pm should be renamed to tde.pm if TDE is all architecture. > > > > > > https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=59309 > > > > > ########### > > > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:13 pm > > you don't need sudo anywhere. the script runs elevated already. > > > > if your packages are 64bit only, the 64 is appropriate. If you > > also have 32 bit packages, then "all" is appropriate. > > > > you will want to run an apt-get update in the post-uninstall > > area since you are removing a list. typically I don't remove > > list files unless there is a chance of some conflict, in which > > case they should not be left enabled at all. (deb-multimedia is > > an example here, good packages, but leaving the repo enabled is > > bad for mx). > > > > for the key, download into /tmp instead of /root. remove the > > temporary downloaded deb after install. > > > > we prefer the deb-src entries to be commented out by default. > > our debian.list file is a good example. > > > > > ########### > > @ screenshots: there where a number of newer ones on the site, > too. I remember that some of my FreeBSD box where there, too, as > TDE does quite nicely on FreeBSD these days. Don't know when they > vanished, where and why. Hopefully last edit of the .pm by me... I'm scheduled to test it next weekend, I'll update to the list next then (these minor edits are getting spammy, so see the MX formum post till then) best all, michael..

On Thursday 23 July 2020 06:07:25 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Mon, 20 Jul 13:23:27 -0500 > > Michael scripsit: > > On Monday 20 July 2020 12:28:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Anno domini 2020 Mon, 20 Jul 11:31:17 -0500 > > > > > > Michael scripsit: > > > > On Sunday 19 July 2020 07:21:09 pm Michael wrote: > > > > > This seems too easy. > > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:05 pm > > > > > the files that we use to define what's in > > > > > mx-packageinstaller->popular apps are XML files. there are > > > > > even places for screenshots, pre and post install scripts > > > > > if extra steps are needed, like adding repos. > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist > > > > > ########### > > > > > > > > > > I found 4 examples with external repositories > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/se > > > > >arch ?q=re posi tory &unscoped_q=repository > > > > > > > > > > To me ‘spotify_64.pm’ seems the closest match to what I > > > > > believe we’d want. ‘airvpn.pm’ is the most complex, > > > > > probably good for example/reference. In any event I > > > > > copy/pasted/edited what I could (attached as tde_64.pm). > > > > > Which probably needs to go into the TDE git somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > Things that definitely need checking: > > > > > > > > > > - <installable> architecture(s) (I picked 64, not > > > > > completely sure that’s correct). > > > > > - method/place for # Import GPG signing key. (needs > > > > > review by MX dev). - when to use sudo and when it’s not > > > > > needed (got no real clue why some commands use it). > > > > > - <description> needs an official English description and > > > > > then as many translations as we can do. > > > > > > > > > > We also need a TDE developer to interface with > > > > > dolphin_oracle directly for the ‘official’ request to add > > > > > it to their system. > > > > > > > > > > Anything else I can help with let me know, > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > - Updated .pm per dolphin_oracle comments. > > > > > > > > - Could use newer screenshot(s) posted to: > > > > - - https://www.trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php > > > > - - All those are from 2014. > > > > - - If at all possible do one similar to > > > > https://www.trinitydesktop.org/media/screenshots/large/tde1. > > > >png so that it includes the full, visible, "The Trinity > > > > Desktop is a full software desktop..." paragraph. (but > > > > possibly I don’t understand the use of that screenshot, so > > > > maybe not?) > > > > > > > > - .pm should be renamed to tde.pm if TDE is all > > > > architecture. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=59309 > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > > > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:13 pm > > > > you don't need sudo anywhere. the script runs elevated > > > > already. > > > > > > > > if your packages are 64bit only, the 64 is appropriate. If > > > > you also have 32 bit packages, then "all" is appropriate. > > > > > > > > you will want to run an apt-get update in the post-uninstall > > > > area since you are removing a list. typically I don't remove > > > > list files unless there is a chance of some conflict, in > > > > which case they should not be left enabled at all. > > > > (deb-multimedia is an example here, good packages, but > > > > leaving the repo enabled is bad for mx). > > > > > > > > for the key, download into /tmp instead of /root. remove the > > > > temporary downloaded deb after install. > > > > > > > > we prefer the deb-src entries to be commented out by > > > > default. our debian.list file is a good example. > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > > @ screenshots: there where a number of newer ones on the site, > > > too. I remember that some of my FreeBSD box where there, too, > > > as TDE does quite nicely on FreeBSD these days. Don't know > > > when they vanished, where and why. > > > > Hopefully last edit of the .pm by me... > > > > I'm scheduled to test it next weekend, I'll update to the list > > next then (these minor edits are getting spammy, so see the MX > > formum post till then) > > > > best all, michael.. > > Hi Michael, > > When I have MX installed, whet do I do with that tde.pm ? Hi Nik, Notes: 1) This has not been tested! Do scan for typo’s before use. (wget line was tested) 2) I’ve set the attached .pm for 64 bit architectures. (change as needed) 3) AFAIK this only works if you’ve installed the full MX. (so you’ll already have Xfce4 installed) After the MX install, drop it in: /usr/share/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist -rw-r--r-- root root Then from Xfce4 Menu >> MX Tools >> MX Package Installer {Tab} Popular Applications {Expand} Desktop Environments {Check} Trinity Desktop Environment {Click} Install Logout of Xfce4 Login TDE {set default window manager, etc.} I think that’s it. Let me know how it goes :) Best, Michael Notes continued: 4) Still needs translations of the description. 5) Has several extra, extraneous comments. Ref: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=587347#p587347

Anno domini 2020 Mon, 20 Jul 11:31:17 -0500 Michael scripsit: > On Sunday 19 July 2020 07:21:09 pm Michael wrote: > > This seems too easy. > > > > ########### > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:05 pm > > the files that we use to define what's in > > mx-packageinstaller->popular apps are XML files. there are even > > places for screenshots, pre and post install scripts if extra steps > > are needed, like adding repos. > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist > > ########### > > > > I found 4 examples with external repositories > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/search?q=re > >posi tory &unscoped_q=repository > > > > To me ‘spotify_64.pm’ seems the closest match to what I believe > > we’d want. ‘airvpn.pm’ is the most complex, probably good for > > example/reference. In any event I copy/pasted/edited what I could > > (attached as tde_64.pm). Which probably needs to go into the TDE > > git somewhere. > > > > Things that definitely need checking: > > > > - <installable> architecture(s) (I picked 64, not completely sure > > that’s correct). > > - method/place for # Import GPG signing key. (needs review by MX > > dev). - when to use sudo and when it’s not needed (got no real clue > > why some commands use it). > > - <description> needs an official English description and then as > > many translations as we can do. > > > > We also need a TDE developer to interface with dolphin_oracle > > directly for the ‘official’ request to add it to their system. > > > > Anything else I can help with let me know, > > Michael > > - Updated .pm per dolphin_oracle comments. > > - Could use newer screenshot(s) posted to: > - - https://www.trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php > - - All those are from 2014. > - - If at all possible do one similar to > https://www.trinitydesktop.org/media/screenshots/large/tde1.png so > that it includes the full, visible, "The Trinity Desktop is a full > software desktop..." paragraph. (but possibly I don’t understand the > use of that screenshot, so maybe not?) > > - .pm should be renamed to tde.pm if TDE is all architecture. > > > https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=59309 > > > ########### > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:13 pm > you don't need sudo anywhere. the script runs elevated already. > > if your packages are 64bit only, the 64 is appropriate. If you also > have 32 bit packages, then "all" is appropriate. > > you will want to run an apt-get update in the post-uninstall area > since you are removing a list. typically I don't remove list files > unless there is a chance of some conflict, in which case they should > not be left enabled at all. (deb-multimedia is an example here, good > packages, but leaving the repo enabled is bad for mx). > > for the key, download into /tmp instead of /root. remove the > temporary downloaded deb after install. > > we prefer the deb-src entries to be commented out by default. our > debian.list file is a good example. > > > ########### @ screenshots: there where a number of newer ones on the site, too. I remember that some of my FreeBSD box where there, too, as TDE does quite nicely on FreeBSD these days. Don't know when they vanished, where and why.