10 Sep
2020
10 Sep
'20
5:44 p.m.
On Thursday 10 September 2020 10:27:38 BorgLabs - Kate
Draven via tde-users
wrote:
> On Thursday 10 September 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > Hello again!
> >
> > I told you that you'd miss me when I'm gone. :-]
> >
> > Please, I need recommendations or strategies for recovering data. I had
a
> > flash drive become unreadable, after I
plugged it into my new printer to
> > print out some documents that had been long in waiting. Then, before I
> > could save myself, I had a 1.5 TB hard drive also fail. On this hard
> > drive is (of course) the source of those backup copies on the flash
> > drive. This is the partition which I was just about to backup.
> >
> > I have several hard drives, from 200 GB up to 8 TB, from 20 years old to
> > brand-new; all are WD, except for one which is Seagate. Guess which one
> > failed? I forget when I got it, or why I ever would have got anything
but
> > WD, or why I would have put anything
important there.
> >
> > I have used ddrescue to try to recover the data, as well as other
> > forensics tools. Recovered images (img and iso) are saved, and taking up
> > space, but I cannot determine if there is any useful content in what was
> > recovered. The failing partition has not been deleted. It cannot be read
> > or mounted, so I have just left it like that, so that I can try to save
> > it.
> >
> > Every attempt to recover the data gives the same result: 2 errors, 3072
> > B, that cannot be read. I tried using tools to look inside the saved iso
> > image, but no luck there. I don't want to erase or format the failing
> > disk partition until I am sure that I have recovered the data.
> >
> > My last hope is that I have another 1.5 TB hard drive; I could try to
> > write the disk images to that partition before I format the old drive.
> > But first, of course, I would need to backup materials from that drive,
> > and now I am running out of space again.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > P.S. And if things were not bad enough, the skies here in San Francisco
> > are a muddy mixture of orange, black, brown and gray. At noon today, it
> > looked like the middle of the night.
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There's another option but a wee bit expensive.
Purchase the same model SG drive (or whatever model etc) that failed and
swap out the electronics.
Assuming there's no mechanical damage, it will work.
It's often why I buy drives in pairs.
Hope this was helpful.
Kate
10 Sep
10 Sep
6:02 p.m.
New subject: data recovery - recommendations & strategies
On Thursday 10 September 2020 10:44:42 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users
wrote:
It is an internal hard drive, not external. Is that what you mean?
Bill
_______________________________________________
I understand. I mean swap out the IDE boards on the drives.
Make sure to mark the bad one so you don't try to reuse it.
I've done that only a few times but it works. They must be the same model.
Kate
I do have another 1.5 TB hard drive (though I would need to backup its data
first); however, it is WD, not Seagate, and I would not willingly buy another
Seagate hard drive.
Bill
On Thursday 10
September 2020 10:27:38 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via
tde-users
wrote:
> On Thursday 10 September 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > Hello again!
> >
> > I told you that you'd miss me when I'm gone. :-]
> >
> > Please, I need recommendations or strategies for recovering data. I
> > had
a
> > flash drive become unreadable, after I
plugged it into my new printer
> > to print out some documents that had been long in waiting. Then,
> > before I could save myself, I had a 1.5 TB hard drive also fail. On
> > this hard drive is (of course) the source of those backup copies on
> > the flash drive. This is the partition which I was just about to
> > backup.
> >
> > I have several hard drives, from 200 GB up to 8 TB, from 20 years old
> > to brand-new; all are WD, except for one which is Seagate. Guess
> > which one failed? I forget when I got it, or why I ever would have
> > got anything
but
> > WD, or why I would have put anything
important there.
> >
> > I have used ddrescue to try to recover the data, as well as other
> > forensics tools. Recovered images (img and iso) are saved, and taking
> > up space, but I cannot determine if there is any useful content in
> > what was recovered. The failing partition has not been deleted. It
> > cannot be read or mounted, so I have just left it like that, so that
> > I can try to save it.
> >
> > Every attempt to recover the data gives the same result: 2 errors,
> > 3072 B, that cannot be read. I tried using tools to look inside the
> > saved iso image, but no luck there. I don't want to erase or format
> > the failing disk partition until I am sure that I have recovered the
> > data.
> >
> > My last hope is that I have another 1.5 TB hard drive; I could try to
> > write the disk images to that partition before I format the old
> > drive. But first, of course, I would need to backup materials from
> > that drive, and now I am running out of space again.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > P.S. And if things were not bad enough, the skies here in San
> > Francisco are a muddy mixture of orange, black, brown and gray. At
> > noon today, it looked like the middle of the night.
> > _______________________________________________
> > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > Web mail archive available at
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydes
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There's another option but a wee bit expensive.
Purchase the same model SG drive (or whatever model etc) that failed
and swap out the electronics.
Assuming there's no mechanical damage, it will work.
It's often why I buy drives in pairs.
Hope this was helpful.
Kate 
6:29 p.m.
New subject: data recovery - recommendations & strategies
On Thursday 10 September 2020 01:02:08 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Thursday 10 September 2020 10:44:42 BorgLabs - Kate
Draven via tde-users
Check ebay for a used drive (same exact model!), you might find one for $10.
What Kate is referring to is what data recovery services basically do in
reverse. * You’d be taking the electronic guts out of a ‘good’ drive and
sticking them in your ‘bad’ drive. Expect to chuck both of them into the
trash when done.
Like Kate, I’d guess it’s the electronics, not the platters. Any physical
damage to a platter is usually a lot more than a few bytes. And would be
getting worse every time it was powered on.
HTH,
Michael
* They usually rip the platters out of a 'bad' drive and stick them in
a 'good' drive housing. But they have clean rooms and the like...
I understand. I mean swap out the IDE boards on
the drives.
Make sure to mark the bad one so you don't try to reuse it.
I've done that only a few times but it works. They must be the same
model.
I do have another 1.5 TB hard drive (though I would need to backup its data
first); however, it is WD, not Seagate, and I would not willingly buy
another Seagate hard drive.
7:22 p.m.
New subject: data recovery - recommendations & strategies
On Thursday 10 September 2020 11:29:53 Michael via tde-users wrote:
Yeah, once it was explained, it made sense. I can't imagine why it would fail
for those few bad bits. It is at least another option, and since it's an old
drive, $10 or so isn't much to spend.
Bill
On Thursday 10 September 2020 01:02:08 pm William
Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Thursday 10
September 2020 10:44:42 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via
tde-users
Check ebay for a used drive (same exact model!), you might find one for
$10.
What Kate is referring to is what data recovery services basically do in
reverse. * You’d be taking the electronic guts out of a ‘good’ drive and
sticking them in your ‘bad’ drive. Expect to chuck both of them into the
trash when done.
Like Kate, I’d guess it’s the electronics, not the platters. Any physical
damage to a platter is usually a lot more than a few bytes. And would be
getting worse every time it was powered on.
HTH,
Michael
* They usually rip the platters out of a 'bad' drive and stick them in
a 'good' drive housing. But they have clean rooms and the like... I understand. I mean swap out the IDE boards on
the drives.
Make sure to mark the bad one so you don't try to reuse it.
I've done that only a few times but it works. They must be the same
model.
I do have another 1.5 TB hard drive (though I would need to backup its
data first); however, it is WD, not Seagate, and I would not willingly
buy another Seagate hard drive.
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