On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Gerente de Sistemas viabsb@gmail.com wrote:

... but, isn't skype for monkeys?

Many podcasters use skype for interviews. WebRTC may very well be better in every way, that doesn't make it _useful_.

And there are other alternatives:

https://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp/

https://www.linphone.org/

https://www.linphone.org/downloads-for-desktop.html/

http://getvoca.com/

https://www.teamspeak.com/teamspeak3/

https://www.teamspeak.com/downloads/

https://vsee.com/

https://jitsi.org/

http://www.oovoo.com/

https://www.viber.com/pt/

https://www.airdroid.com/pt-br/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software/

Maybe the major problem could be a complete and easy to use application to do one simple task: 2 people communication with no problems at all ....

I am testing ElementaryOS - ubuntu based distro - and I like it. Maybe it is a move from fedora to EOS.

Take a look at EOS.

We can test www.appear.in/equipelinux/.

Regards.

Bye.

2016-01-16 14:45 GMT-02:00 Kate Draven borglabs4@gmail.com:

On Saturday 16 January 2016, Gerente de Sistemas wrote:

...

... but, isn't skype for monkeys?

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I hope it helps you to leave the jungle.

Have nice day and a beautiful 2$16.

I m here: https://tryit.jssip.net/?invited-by=b7396351/

Gerente,

Thank you for this. I will looking into today asap. I did, however, resolve the sound problems with skype.

As it turns out, because the distro is a remastered ISO, it has config files left over from the author. I had to purge pulseaudio to remove all config files and reinstall. Once I did that, it worked fine.

I do agree with you in the skype is for crakmonkeys. I would LOVE to get ride of it. I'll let you know if any of these work for us.

Thank you again.

Kate

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On 2016-01-18 04:54, Kate Draven wrote:

Thank you Gerente

I appreciate all your research. As soon as I have time, I'll look into all of it. This does indeed look promising.

Thank you again,

That is always the problem, isn’t it, having the time. Most of us have lives and jobs. "iadest" has already given up, as have I. When I need Skype I use a Samsung tablet instead of my desktop with Wheezy and TDE 14.0.2 -- soon to upgraded to Jessie "when I have the time" -- famous last words.

This instance is not the first time I have given up on some "improvement" because of lack of time -- the price of living with Linux, I suppose -- not that Microsoft is that much better if any.

Ken

iadest@o2.pl wrote:

Thanks for alternatives. About a year ago I was looking for open alternative for Skype (voice connections). Unfortunately, I found that no such thing exists for connections which are not a server-grade (with public IP). I'm behind a router, then another one (ISP NAT), with some port blocking, then probably another one (I'm not sure), and I cannot use anything except server-based solutions. I haven't found any open-source solutions working. Half of these just couldn't connect (throwing illogical errors), the other half tried to manipulate router which is not mine. Well, after researching about Skype and how its internals are protected far more beyond normal copyright (do they try to mask backdoors this way?), I decided not to go with it and not use voice communication at all. MCbx

No skype is not using any backdoor, rather it has comprehensive mechanism to try and find a way to get the connection to the other part. There was a nice article years ago, about the internal structure and how people tried to reverse engineer it. If you can use etherape or alike (wireshark) you can see what is going on when you are behind NAT and in a less protected network. We did a test with very restrictive network and it had a callback channel via some skype server - I think it finds out which port is open and uses this port to get the communication via some skype server.

The problem with using alternative is also related to what your counter part would use. The bigger problem here is incompatibility of protocol implementations, so that you are not free to decide but use whatever the counter part uses to have a communication.

I recently read more about OTR, which seems to be implemented AFAIR also in TDE or some patch for KDE3 - I don't know exactly now. Unfortunately there is no similar voice/video solution to encrypt the stream ... well there are some kinds of encryption, but I don't think anything was implemented on unix bases and still your peer must use the same or similar application ... that is the problem (with democracy) ;-)

regards

Thank you