27 Oct
2023
27 Oct
'23
11 p.m.
Dear TDE users list,
This is a problem probably outside of TDE. I often use ImageMagick import
to take a snapshot of part of my screen, such as a particular image. With
previous installations, up to openSUSE 15.2 (and TDE), I have always been
able to enter something like:
import test.ppm
and then either use for example Ctrl+F4 or Alt+Tab to switch to a
different desktop or window. However, with openSUSE 15.4 (tested with TDE
and LXDE) after entering the command for import the keyboard freezes and I
cannot switch desktop or window, neither I can exit import by pressing
Ctrl+C. The mouse still works and I can still take a screenshot of
whatever is on the screen. However, this makes it more combersome to take
a screenshot. The interesting thing is that it seems like whatever I type
on the keyboard is "queued" and executed once import exits (by drawing a
rectangle with the mouse). So eventually it still switches but only after
import is done.
If anybody has encountered this same problem and has a possible solution,
I would be glad to hear.
Thanks,
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
27 Oct
27 Oct
11:12 p.m.
On Friday 27 October 2023 16:00:14 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Dear TDE users list,
This is a problem probably outside of TDE. I often use ImageMagick import
to take a snapshot of part of my screen, such as a particular image. With
previous installations, up to openSUSE 15.2 (and TDE), I have always been
able to enter something like:
import test.ppm
and then either use for example Ctrl+F4 or Alt+Tab to switch to a
different desktop or window. However, with openSUSE 15.4 (tested with TDE
and LXDE) after entering the command for import the keyboard freezes and I
cannot switch desktop or window, neither I can exit import by pressing
Ctrl+C. The mouse still works and I can still take a screenshot of
whatever is on the screen. However, this makes it more combersome to take
a screenshot. The interesting thing is that it seems like whatever I type
on the keyboard is "queued" and executed once import exits (by drawing a
rectangle with the mouse). So eventually it still switches but only after
import is done.
If anybody has encountered this same problem and has a possible solution,
I would be glad to hear.
Thanks,
Gianluca
This doesn't specifically address your issue, but maybe there is a TDE
solution for this non-TDE problem.
Have you ever tried ksnapshot? I use it all the time, and it is highly
configurable. You can take a snapshot of the whole screen, or just a section,
and it has other similar features.
Bill
11:48 p.m.
Thanks for the tip!
ksnapshot works better although it has the same problem, i.e., the
keyboard input is also not processed. If I use for example Alt+Tab I still
see the window selection, but it does not switch window or desktop.
However, as long as I put the window that I need to take the snapshot of
in the foreground, then ksnapshot works. I still cannot switch desktop,
but it already helps. I also like that ksnapshot gives you a preview of
your snapshot and that you can select fullscreen, window, section of a
window or just a region. I should have known it earlier!
Gianluca
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Friday 27 October 2023 16:00:14 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Dear TDE users list,
This is a problem probably outside of TDE. I often use ImageMagick import
to take a snapshot of part of my screen, such as a particular image. With
previous installations, up to openSUSE 15.2 (and TDE), I have always been
able to enter something like:
import test.ppm
and then either use for example Ctrl+F4 or Alt+Tab to switch to a
different desktop or window. However, with openSUSE 15.4 (tested with TDE
and LXDE) after entering the command for import the keyboard freezes and I
cannot switch desktop or window, neither I can exit import by pressing
Ctrl+C. The mouse still works and I can still take a screenshot of
whatever is on the screen. However, this makes it more combersome to take
a screenshot. The interesting thing is that it seems like whatever I type
on the keyboard is "queued" and executed once import exits (by drawing a
rectangle with the mouse). So eventually it still switches but only after
import is done.
If anybody has encountered this same problem and has a possible solution,
I would be glad to hear.
Thanks,
Gianluca
This doesn't specifically address your issue, but maybe there is a TDE
solution for this non-TDE problem.
Have you ever tried ksnapshot? I use it all the time, and it is highly
configurable. You can take a snapshot of the whole screen, or just a section,
and it has other similar features.
Bill
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28 Oct
28 Oct
12:18 a.m.
On Friday 27 October 2023 16:48:08 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Thanks for the tip!
ksnapshot works better although it has the same problem, i.e., the
keyboard input is also not processed. If I use for example Alt+Tab I still
see the window selection, but it does not switch window or desktop.
However, as long as I put the window that I need to take the snapshot of
in the foreground, then ksnapshot works. I still cannot switch desktop,
but it already helps. I also like that ksnapshot gives you a preview of
your snapshot and that you can select fullscreen, window, section of a
window or just a region. I should have known it earlier!
Gianluca
Now that you mention this detail, it rings a bell! I have the same or a very
similar problem with my keyboard. (This is my old external keyboard, which
has both a USB 1.0 connector and one of those round pin connectors from the
late 1980s or early 1990s, I think.) Up until a couple weeks ago, it always
worked just fine, but lately I have been having all kinds of inexplicable
issues. One of those is that many of my usual commands will not work with my
keyboard; for example, alt+tab doesn't work to switch windows any more, and
instead I have to use the keyboard on my laptop.
For the record -- just in case anybody out there wonders why -- I cannot use
the laptop keyboard for any more than brief functions, etc., due to my big
fat hands. When using a laptop, I have always had to plug in an external
keyboard. If I try to enter my system password (which is exceptionally long
and complicated) on a laptop keyboard, it will take me maybe 15 minutes to
succeed in logging in. I bought a new external keyboard, but that doesn't
work at all with TDE's Secure Attention Key feature, and otherwise is
problematic with a Linux system, so I will try to return it for something
more compatible.
I wonder, though, if these similar issues are not symptoms of some deeper
problem. Has anybody else out there had such problems?
My own problems, by the way, keep growing, and soon, in order to keep track of
them, I will have to start a kind of encyclopedia of issues and bugs.
Anyway, I am glad to hear that this helped, at least a little. TDE's ksnapshot
is a great application.
Bill
2:58 a.m.
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Friday 27 October 2023 16:48:08 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
The problems that I mention only occur when I use a program that takes a
snapshot like import or ksnapshot. Othwerwise, I have no problems with the
keyboard and I am otherwise able to use Alt+Tab to switch between windows
(except when using import or ksnapshot). But I can't say whether they are
related to what you are observing or not.
Thanks!
Gianluca
Thanks for the tip!
ksnapshot works better although it has the same problem, i.e., the
keyboard input is also not processed. If I use for example Alt+Tab I still
see the window selection, but it does not switch window or desktop.
However, as long as I put the window that I need to take the snapshot of
in the foreground, then ksnapshot works. I still cannot switch desktop,
but it already helps. I also like that ksnapshot gives you a preview of
your snapshot and that you can select fullscreen, window, section of a
window or just a region. I should have known it earlier!
Gianluca
Now that you mention this detail, it rings a bell! I have the same or a very
similar problem with my keyboard. (This is my old external keyboard, which
has both a USB 1.0 connector and one of those round pin connectors from the
late 1980s or early 1990s, I think.) Up until a couple weeks ago, it always
worked just fine, but lately I have been having all kinds of inexplicable
issues. One of those is that many of my usual commands will not work with my
keyboard; for example, alt+tab doesn't work to switch windows any more, and
instead I have to use the keyboard on my laptop. For the record -- just in case anybody out there
wonders why -- I cannot use
the laptop keyboard for any more than brief functions, etc., due to my big
fat hands. When using a laptop, I have always had to plug in an external
keyboard. If I try to enter my system password (which is exceptionally long
and complicated) on a laptop keyboard, it will take me maybe 15 minutes to
succeed in logging in. I bought a new external keyboard, but that doesn't
work at all with TDE's Secure Attention Key feature, and otherwise is
problematic with a Linux system, so I will try to return it for something
more compatible.
I wonder, though, if these similar issues are not symptoms of some deeper
problem. Has anybody else out there had such problems?
My own problems, by the way, keep growing, and soon, in order to keep track of
them, I will have to start a kind of encyclopedia of issues and bugs.
Anyway, I am glad to hear that this helped, at least a little. TDE's ksnapshot
is a great application.
Bill
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+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
4:25 a.m.
On Friday 27 October 2023 19:58:23 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023, William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
Oh well, then maybe not.
Bill
On Friday 27 October 2023 16:48:08 Gianluca
Interlandi via tde-users
The problems that I mention only occur when I use a
program that takes a
snapshot like import or ksnapshot. Othwerwise, I have no problems with the
keyboard and I am otherwise able to use Alt+Tab to switch between windows
(except when using import or ksnapshot). But I can't say whether they are
related to what you are observing or not.
Thanks!
Gianluca 
29 Oct
29 Oct
12:19 a.m.
On 2023-10-27 18:00:14 you wrote:
Dear TDE users list,
This is a problem probably outside of TDE. I often use ImageMagick import
to take a snapshot of part of my screen, such as a particular image. With
previous installations, up to openSUSE 15.2 (and TDE), I have always been
able to enter something like:
import test.ppm
and then either use for example Ctrl+F4 or Alt+Tab to switch to a
different desktop or window. However, with openSUSE 15.4 (tested with TDE
and LXDE) after entering the command for import the keyboard freezes and I
cannot switch desktop or window, neither I can exit import by pressing
Ctrl+C. The mouse still works and I can still take a screenshot of
whatever is on the screen. However, this makes it more combersome to take
a screenshot. The interesting thing is that it seems like whatever I type
on the keyboard is "queued" and executed once import exits (by drawing a
rectangle with the mouse). So eventually it still switches but only after
import is done.
If anybody has encountered this same problem and has a possible solution,
I would be glad to hear.
Thanks,
Gianluca
There are three workarounds that you can use to switch screens without using
the keyboard:
You can use the scrollwheel on your mouse to switch screens by placing the
mouse cursor over the 'Desktop Preview and Pager' applet in your panel and
rolling the scrollwheel, or by clicking on the desired screen rectangle in
the Desktop Preview and Pager grid.
You can also check 'Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop' in
Control Center => Desktop => Multiple Desktops.
You can also change 'Active Desktop Borders' to 'Always enabled' in
Control
Center => Desktop => Window Behavior, Advanced tab, which allows you to
change screens by pushing the mouse cursor against one of the four edges of
the current screen.
HTH,
Leslie
--
Platform: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.1.0
tde-config: 1.0
30 Oct
30 Oct
6:24 p.m.
Hi Leslie,
You can use the scrollwheel on your mouse to
switch screens by
placing the mouse cursor over the 'Desktop Preview and Pager' applet in
your panel and rolling the scrollwheel, or by clicking on the desired
screen rectangle in the Desktop Preview and Pager grid.
Thanks for the suggestion. Normally, I can switch desktop using the wheel
of the mouse. However, when in snapshot mode (import or ksnapshot) using
the wheel has no effect either. If I click on the desired screen
rectangle, as you suggest, then it takes a snapshot of that section of the
panel. So, switching desktops after entering snapshot mode seems not
possible. However, ksnapshot is still helpful in mitigating the issue. In
fact, after entering `ksnapshot` a new window appears with ksnapshot
options. I can then move that window to the desired desktop and click on
"New Snapshot", which makes the window with options disappear so I can
take a snapshot of what I need to. I hope TDE lives for very long.
Gianluca
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
On 2023-10-27 18:00:14 you wrote:
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Dear TDE users list,
This is a problem probably outside of TDE. I often use ImageMagick import
to take a snapshot of part of my screen, such as a particular image. With
previous installations, up to openSUSE 15.2 (and TDE), I have always been
able to enter something like:
import test.ppm
and then either use for example Ctrl+F4 or Alt+Tab to switch to a
different desktop or window. However, with openSUSE 15.4 (tested with TDE
and LXDE) after entering the command for import the keyboard freezes and I
cannot switch desktop or window, neither I can exit import by pressing
Ctrl+C. The mouse still works and I can still take a screenshot of
whatever is on the screen. However, this makes it more combersome to take
a screenshot. The interesting thing is that it seems like whatever I type
on the keyboard is "queued" and executed once import exits (by drawing a
rectangle with the mouse). So eventually it still switches but only after
import is done.
If anybody has encountered this same problem and has a possible solution,
I would be glad to hear.
Thanks,
Gianluca
There are three workarounds that you can use to switch screens without using
the keyboard:
You can use the scrollwheel on your mouse to switch screens by placing the
mouse cursor over the 'Desktop Preview and Pager' applet in your panel and
rolling the scrollwheel, or by clicking on the desired screen rectangle in
the Desktop Preview and Pager grid.
You can also check 'Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop' in
Control Center => Desktop => Multiple Desktops.
You can also change 'Active Desktop Borders' to 'Always enabled' in
Control
Center => Desktop => Window Behavior, Advanced tab, which allows you to
change screens by pushing the mouse cursor against one of the four edges of
the current screen.
HTH,
Leslie
--
Platform: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.1.0
tde-config: 1.0
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31 Oct
31 Oct
1:44 a.m.
On 2023/10/31 03:24 AM, Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Hi Leslie,
Hi Gianluca,
ksnapshot has a "snapshot delay" field: put a value there (for example 4
seconds) and press "New screenshot". You have
for seconds to move around (change desktop, select window) before the snapshot is taken. I
just tested changing desktop
during the delay, it works fine.
Cheers
Michele
You can use the scrollwheel on your mouse
to switch screens by placing the mouse cursor over the 'Desktop
Preview and Pager' applet in your panel and rolling the scrollwheel, or by clicking
on the desired screen rectangle in
the Desktop Preview and Pager grid.
Thanks for the suggestion. Normally, I can switch desktop using the wheel of the mouse.
However, when in snapshot mode
(import or ksnapshot) using the wheel has no effect either. If I click on the desired
screen rectangle, as you suggest,
then it takes a snapshot of that section of the panel. So, switching desktops after
entering snapshot mode seems not
possible. However, ksnapshot is still helpful in mitigating the issue. In fact, after
entering `ksnapshot` a new window
appears with ksnapshot options. I can then move that window to the desired desktop and
click on "New Snapshot", which
makes the window with options disappear so I can take a snapshot of what I need to. I
hope TDE lives for very long.
Gianluca
2:24 a.m.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/10/31 03:24 AM, Gianluca Interlandi via
tde-users wrote:
Hi Michele,
Thanks for the suggestion. It works for all modes of capture except
"Region". You also need to have it placed right over the window you want
to take a snapshot of at the time when the delay ends. But I think it is
still useful and makes it simpler to take a snapshot of a window.
Sometimes I need to select a region. In that case, I need to already be in
the correct desktop. The alternative is to take a snapshot of a window and
then use gimp to select a portion of the window.
Thanks!
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Hi Leslie,
Hi Gianluca,
ksnapshot has a "snapshot delay" field: put a value there (for example 4
seconds) and press "New screenshot". You have for seconds to move around
(change desktop, select window) before the snapshot is taken. I just tested
changing desktop during the delay, it works fine. You can use the scrollwheel on your mouse
to switch screens by
placing the mouse cursor over the 'Desktop Preview and Pager' applet in
your panel and rolling the scrollwheel, or by clicking on the desired
screen rectangle in the Desktop Preview and Pager grid.
Thanks for the suggestion. Normally, I can switch desktop using the wheel
of the mouse. However, when in snapshot mode (import or ksnapshot) using
the wheel has no effect either. If I click on the desired screen rectangle,
as you suggest, then it takes a snapshot of that section of the panel. So,
switching desktops after entering snapshot mode seems not possible.
However, ksnapshot is still helpful in mitigating the issue. In fact, after
entering `ksnapshot` a new window appears with ksnapshot options. I can
then move that window to the desired desktop and click on "New Snapshot",
which makes the window with options disappear so I can take a snapshot of
what I need to. I hope TDE lives for very long.
Gianluca
2:40 a.m.
On 2023/10/31 11:24 AM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Hi Michele,
Thanks for the suggestion. It works for all modes of capture except "Region".
You also need to have it placed right over
the window you want to take a snapshot of at the time when the delay ends. But I think it
is still useful and makes it
simpler to take a snapshot of a window. Sometimes I need to select a region. In that
case, I need to already be in the
correct desktop. The alternative is to take a snapshot of a window and
then use gimp to select a portion of the window.
Ciao Gianluca,
Ah I see. Not sure why it is not available for the "Region", I guess there is no
hard stopper IMO.
Can you file an issue on TGW as an enhancement request to get "Delay"
functionality also for "Region" mode?
Cheers
Michele
3:31 a.m.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/10/31 11:24 AM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
The delay function may not be available for "Region" mode because when the
delay is over it takes a snapshot of the window right away. If you have
"No delay" and you click on "New Snapshot", then the mouse cursor
becomes
a cross and you need to click on a window to take a screenshot of it. So,
it behaves slightly differently with or without delay. But who knows,
maybe it is possible to implement a delay with "Region" mode. As soon as I
have time I will submit such a request.
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Hi Michele,
Thanks for the suggestion. It works for all modes of capture except
"Region". You also need to have it placed right over the window you want to
take a snapshot of at the time when the delay ends. But I think it is still
useful and makes it simpler to take a snapshot of a window. Sometimes I
need to select a region. In that case, I need to already be in the correct
desktop. The alternative is to take a snapshot of a window and
then use gimp to select a portion of the window.
Ciao Gianluca,
Ah I see. Not sure why it is not available for the "Region", I guess there is
no hard stopper IMO.
Can you file an issue on TGW as an enhancement request to get "Delay"
functionality also for "Region" mode?
4:54 a.m.
On 2023/10/31 12:31 PM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Good point, that maybe is the reason why it does not work with "Region". But
maybe it is possible to add a delay to move
around and then allow to capture a region after the delay is over.
Will see what is possible and reasonable. Thanks for creating the issue report.
Cheers
Michele
Ciao Gianluca,
Ah I see. Not sure why it is not available for the "Region", I guess there is
no hard stopper IMO.
Can you file an issue on TGW as an enhancement request to get "Delay"
functionality also for "Region" mode?
The delay function may not be available for "Region" mode because when the
delay is over it takes a snapshot of the
window right away. If you have "No delay" and you click on "New
Snapshot", then the mouse cursor becomes a cross and you
need to click on a window to take a screenshot of it. So, it behaves slightly differently
with or without delay. But who
knows, maybe it is possible to implement a delay with "Region" mode. As soon as
I have time I will submit such a request.
Gianluca
3:54 a.m.
Ciao Michele,
I have just created the issue:
ksnapshot delay function does not work with "Region" Capture mode #71
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdegraphics/issues/71
Gianluca
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/10/31 11:24 AM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Hi Michele,
Thanks for the suggestion. It works for all modes of capture except
"Region". You also need to have it placed right over the window you want to
take a snapshot of at the time when the delay ends. But I think it is still
useful and makes it simpler to take a snapshot of a window. Sometimes I
need to select a region. In that case, I need to already be in the correct
desktop. The alternative is to take a snapshot of a window and
then use gimp to select a portion of the window.
Ciao Gianluca,
Ah I see. Not sure why it is not available for the "Region", I guess there is
no hard stopper IMO.
Can you file an issue on TGW as an enhancement request to get "Delay"
functionality also for "Region" mode?
Cheers
Michele
6:51 a.m.
On Tuesday 31 October 2023 04.54:56 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
I have just created the issue:
ksnapshot delay function does not work with "Region" Capture mode #71
I don't really understand how you intend to use a delay with the region mode.
My understanding (and use) is that I need to see the region I want to capture
to select it, so "select and change desktop" does not make sense.
I could imagine a delay being useful to capture a region with the cursor
inside - actually in such case I capture a full screen and und Gimp.
Thierry
11:49 a.m.
On 2023/10/31 03:51 PM, Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
I don't really understand how you intend to use a
delay with the region mode.
My understanding (and use) is that I need to see the region I want to capture
to select it, so "select and change desktop" does not make sense.
That would be something like the delay with "Section of a window": during the
initial delay you can move around freely
(including changing desktop), then after the delay expires the mouse cursor changes and
you can select the region of
interest.
Whether it is possible or not and how easy/difficult it is to implement, we will have to
see :-)
Cheers
Michele
8:15 p.m.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/10/31 03:51 PM, Thierry de Coulon via
tde-users wrote:
Thierry,
The situation with my installation of openSUSE Leap 15.4 is that whenever
the mouse is in capture mode, the keyboard I/O is frozen so that I cannot
switch desktop or change windows. By allowing a delay in region capture
mode I would be able to switch desktops before the mouse enters capture
mode. I have submitted the issue about the keyboard freezing to the
openSUSE forums and I have to hear back yet. I am not sure whether this
issue persists also in Leap 15.5. I wonder whether other distributions
experience this, too.
Best,
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
I don't really understand how you intend to
use a delay with the region
mode.
My understanding (and use) is that I need to see the region I want to
capture
to select it, so "select and change desktop" does not make sense.
That would be something like the delay with "Section of a window": during the
initial delay you can move around freely (including changing desktop), then
after the delay expires the mouse cursor changes and you can select the
region of interest.
Whether it is possible or not and how easy/difficult it is to implement, we
will have to see :-)
9:26 p.m.
On Tuesday 31 October 2023 13:15:49 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
The situation with my installation of openSUSE Leap 15.4 is that whenever
the mouse is in capture mode, the keyboard I/O is frozen so that I cannot
switch desktop or change windows. By allowing a delay in region capture
mode I would be able to switch desktops before the mouse enters capture
mode. I have submitted the issue about the keyboard freezing to the
openSUSE forums and I have to hear back yet. I am not sure whether this
issue persists also in Leap 15.5. I wonder whether other distributions
experience this, too.
Best,
Gianluca
I am not sure of how you need to use ksnapshot or other applications, but I
think that it is possible to use it in the same window or desktop in which
you are taking a screenshot.
Maybe I am totally off here, but I will give it a try, anyway. When you click
on ksnapshot, go to the top of the application window, right-click, then
choose Advanced, then Special Application Settings, or maybe sometimes
Special Window Settings. The choose Desktop, then Force, and you can set an
application to open only in its special window, or to stay open on all
desktops.
This will work for any TDE application, so far as I know, and maybe also
non-TDE apps when running within TDE.
Perhaps I misunderstand your needs, and how you use these applications to make
screenshots, but this seems like it ought to work.
Bill
9:35 p.m.
Hi Bill,
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 31 October 2023 13:15:49 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
This certainly works, too and it is my workaround for now. We were
discussing the delay as an alternative method.
Gianluca
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+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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The situation with my installation of openSUSE Leap 15.4 is that whenever
the mouse is in capture mode, the keyboard I/O is frozen so that I cannot
switch desktop or change windows. By allowing a delay in region capture
mode I would be able to switch desktops before the mouse enters capture
mode. I have submitted the issue about the keyboard freezing to the
openSUSE forums and I have to hear back yet. I am not sure whether this
issue persists also in Leap 15.5. I wonder whether other distributions
experience this, too.
Best,
Gianluca
I am not sure of how you need to use ksnapshot or other applications, but I
think that it is possible to use it in the same window or desktop in which
you are taking a screenshot.
Maybe I am totally off here, but I will give it a try, anyway. When you click
on ksnapshot, go to the top of the application window, right-click, then
choose Advanced, then Special Application Settings, or maybe sometimes
Special Window Settings. The choose Desktop, then Force, and you can set an
application to open only in its special window, or to stay open on all
desktops.
This will work for any TDE application, so far as I know, and maybe also
non-TDE apps when running within TDE.
Perhaps I misunderstand your needs, and how you use these applications to make
screenshots, but this seems like it ought to work.
9:47 p.m.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Hi Bill,
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Having the delay would make the process faster since I could simply set 4
sec, during which I have time to for example press Ctrl+<F4> to switch
desktop and then take the snapshot of the region of interest.
Gianluca
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Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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On Tuesday 31 October 2023 13:15:49 Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users
wrote:
This certainly works, too and it is my workaround for now. We were discussing
the delay as an alternative method.
The situation with my installation of openSUSE Leap 15.4 is that whenever
the mouse is in capture mode, the keyboard I/O is frozen so that I cannot
switch desktop or change windows. By allowing a delay in region capture
mode I would be able to switch desktops before the mouse enters capture
mode. I have submitted the issue about the keyboard freezing to the
openSUSE forums and I have to hear back yet. I am not sure whether this
issue persists also in Leap 15.5. I wonder whether other distributions
experience this, too.
Best,
Gianluca
I am not sure of how you need to use ksnapshot or other applications, but I
think that it is possible to use it in the same window or desktop in which
you are taking a screenshot.
Maybe I am totally off here, but I will give it a try, anyway. When you
click
on ksnapshot, go to the top of the application window, right-click, then
choose Advanced, then Special Application Settings, or maybe sometimes
Special Window Settings. The choose Desktop, then Force, and you can set an
application to open only in its special window, or to stay open on all
desktops.
This will work for any TDE application, so far as I know, and maybe also
non-TDE apps when running within TDE.
Perhaps I misunderstand your needs, and how you use these applications to
make
screenshots, but this seems like it ought to work.
1 Nov
1 Nov
9:57 a.m.
On 2023/10/31 08:49 PM, Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 2023/10/31 03:51 PM, Thierry de Coulon via
tde-users wrote:
Implemented and will be part of R14.1.2 release.
Cheers
Michele
I don't really understand how you intend to
use a delay with the region mode.
My understanding (and use) is that I need to see the region I want to capture
to select it, so "select and change desktop" does not make sense.
That would be something like the delay with "Section of a window": during the
initial delay you can move around freely
(including changing desktop), then after the delay expires the mouse cursor changes and
you can select the region of
interest.
Whether it is possible or not and how easy/difficult it is to implement, we will have to
see :-)
Cheers
Michele
3:20 p.m.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/10/31 08:49 PM, Michele Calgaro wrote:
Thanks Michele!
Gianluca
On 2023/10/31 03:51 PM, Thierry de Coulon via
tde-users wrote:
Implemented and will be part of R14.1.2 release. I don't really understand how you intend to
use a delay with the region
mode.
My understanding (and use) is that I need to see the region I want to
capture
to select it, so "select and change desktop" does not make sense.
That would be something like the delay with "Section of a window": during
the initial delay you can move around freely (including changing desktop),
then after the delay expires the mouse cursor changes and you can select
the region of interest.
Whether it is possible or not and how easy/difficult it is to implement, we
will have to see :-)
Cheers
Michele Cheers
Michele
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+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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