FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged 3.5.13 and re-installed 3.5.12.
In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install.
Peace,
Greg
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
I tried a fresh install on Ubuntu 10.04, on a machine with a somewhat old Nvidia 7300 (and using the nightly builds). There was no real problem (seems pulse audio is a little itchy) and setting up the dual monitors from the settings panel was a piece of cake.
So i could not say of your problems are linked to the upgrade, your hardware, It's not clear for me either what exactly you did, as you say "Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen". But if you removed desktop-base-trinity I'am not really surprised that "TDE apps worked" as it seems you had just removed the base they needed.
Thierry
On Saturday 05 November 2011 2:57:04 am Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
I tried a fresh install on Ubuntu 10.04, on a machine with a somewhat old Nvidia 7300 (and using the nightly builds). There was no real problem (seems pulse audio is a little itchy) and setting up the dual monitors from the settings panel was a piece of cake.
So i could not say of your problems are linked to the upgrade, your hardware, It's not clear for me either what exactly you did, as you say "Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen". But if you removed desktop-base-trinity I'am not really surprised that "TDE apps worked" as it seems you had just removed the base they needed.
Thierry
Thanks for the replies..everyone.
This is my workstation for my business, and has benn 'upgraded' through several Debian releases, also the previous TDE releases. The Debian component is current with all security updates. I get a little anxious when things do not go well :-)
The installation instructions do not mention upgrading, but it has not been an issue before.
As far as mixing versions of TDE, aside from the fact upgrades, in my thinking, take care of this. I did purge all of TDE, all versions, and did my best to get all the libs, which left me with my old Windowmaker install, minus TDE appps, then tried an 'install' of TDE 3.5.13, twice, with same results. Using the same purge and install, re-installed TDE 3.5.12, works fine.
Not sure what exactly 'desktop-base-trinity' does, but one feature is the background image for the login screen, TDE apps work without it in the past.
One thing I did not try, thanks for pointing this out, I use a Nvidia Quadro video card and use the Nvidia proprietary drive, the FOSS driver doesn't work for my setup. To be complete i should have re-installed the driver.
I have a spare partition on my boot drive, I am going to do a fresh install so I have a failsafe work environment, then can try 'upgrading' again paying attention to the video driver.
Thanks
Not sure what exactly 'desktop-base-trinity' does, but one feature is the background image for the login screen, TDE apps work without it in the past.
One thing I did not try, thanks for pointing this out, I use a Nvidia Quadro video card and use the Nvidia proprietary drive, the FOSS driver doesn't work for my setup. To be complete i should have re-installed the driver.
I have a spare partition on my boot drive, I am going to do a fresh install so I have a failsafe work environment, then can try 'upgrading' again paying attention to the video driver.
Thanks
I've Nvidia proprietary drivers, too, version 270.41.06. This is a list of TDE packages on my system, maybe it helps.
ark-trinity arts-trinity desktop-base-trinity hal-trinity k3b-data-trinity k3b-trinity k9copy-trinity kaddressbook-trinity kappfinder-trinity kate-plugins-trinity kate-trinity kcalc-trinity kcontrol-trinity kde-core-trinity kde-i18n-de-trinity kdeartwork-emoticons-trinity kdeartwork-misc-trinity kdeartwork-style-trinity kdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity kdeartwork-theme-window-trinity kdeartwork-trinity kdebase-data-trinity kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity kdebase-trinity kdebase-trinity-bin kdelibs-data-trinity kdelibs-trinity kdelibs4c2a-trinity kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data-trinity kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins-trinity kdemultimedia-kio-plugins-trinity kdenetwork-kfile-plugins-trinity kdepasswd-trinity kdepim-kio-plugins-trinity kdepim-kresources-trinity kdeprint-trinity kdesktop-trinity kdesvn-kio-plugins-trinity kdesvn-trinity kdewallpapers-trinity kdm-trinity kdmtheme-trinity kdvi-trinity kfind-trinity kghostview-trinity khelpcenter-trinity khexedit-trinity kicker-applets-trinity kicker-trinity kile-trinity kile-trinity-i18n-de kio-locate-trinity kio-umountwrapper-trinity klipper-trinity kmail-trinity kmenuedit-trinity kmix-trinity knotes-trinity kompare-trinity konq-plugins-trinity konqueror-nsplugins-trinity konqueror-trinity konsole-trinity konversation-trinity kpager-trinity kpdf-trinity kpersonalizer-trinity kregexpeditor-trinity kscreensaver-trinity kscreensaver-xsavers-trinity ksmserver-trinity ksplash-trinity ksvg-trinity ksysguard-trinity ksysguardd-trinity ktip-trinity ktorrent-trinity kuickshow-trinity kviewshell-trinity kwalletmanager-trinity kwin-trinity libarts1c2a-trinity libartsc0-trinity libindex0-trinity libk3b3-extracodecs-trinity libk3b3-trinity libkcal2b-trinity libkcddb1-trinity libkdepim1a-trinity libkleopatra1-trinity libkmime2-trinity libkonq4-trinity libkpimidentities1-trinity libksieve0-trinity libktnef1-trinity libmimelib1c2a-trinity libsvnqt4-trinity sudo-trinity
Am Samstag, 5. November 2011 schrieb Greg Madden:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged 3.5.13 and re-installed 3.5.12.
In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install.
That happens, when mixing packages are from 3.5.12 and 3.5.13 occures. When you finish your update ensure there is nothing of 3.5.12 left.
Peace,
Greg
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On 05/11/11 08:21, Greg Madden wrote:
FYI,
I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was working great,
I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the nightlies server.
Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked.
I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12.
All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged 3.5.13 and re-installed 3.5.12.
In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install.
Peace,
Greg
3 machines; HD installs and various virtualbox setups running 3.5.13 so far flawlessly here.
How did you do this upgrade? Got the latest Squeeze updates installed first? Proprietary graphics drivers? The old custom xorg.conf sounds suspect.
I use only apt-get (apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade) Nik is absolutely right, any major upgrade in X is asking for trouble, maybe that should be clarified in any official TDE upgrade instructions.
It's probably best to do just the squeeze updates first and reboot, there could be a new kernel, new xorg... proprietary graphics drivers might need reinstalling before X will run
Regards, David
I don't see how 3.5.13 can be working in Squeeze yet. It's certainly not working for me. Comparing the sizes of the files in these two directories suggests that 3.5.13 is incomplete, or am I missing something?
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/debian/dists/squeeze/main/b... [ ] Packages 13-Oct-2011 08:17 679K [ ] Packages.bz2 13-Oct-2011 08:17 97K [ ] Packages.gz 13-Oct-2011 08:17 134K [ ] Release 13-Oct-2011 08:17 131
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/dists/squeez... [ ] Packages 30-Oct-2011 13:00 118K [ ] Packages.bz2 30-Oct-2011 13:00 21K [ ] Packages.gz 30-Oct-2011 13:00 24K [ ] Release 30-Oct-2011 13:00 147
Note, I started at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/ but the URLs always get redirected to uidaho.
Thanks,
--Mike
On Saturday 05 November 2011 1:59:51 pm Mike Bird wrote:
I don't see how 3.5.13 can be working in Squeeze yet. It's certainly not working for me. Comparing the sizes of the files in these two directories suggests that 3.5.13 is incomplete, or am I missing something?
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity/debian/dists/squeeze/main/ binary-i386/ [ ] Packages 13-Oct-2011 08:17 679K [ ] Packages.bz2 13-Oct-2011 08:17 97K [ ] Packages.gz 13-Oct-2011 08:17 134K [ ] Release 13-Oct-2011 08:17 131
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/dists/squee ze/main/binary-i386/ [ ] Packages 30-Oct-2011 13:00 118K [ ] Packages.bz2 30-Oct-2011 13:00 21K [ ] Packages.gz 30-Oct-2011 13:00 24K [ ] Release 30-Oct-2011 13:00 147
Note, I started at http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/ but the URLs always get redirected to uidaho.
Thanks,
--Mike
I used the nightlies server, aaccording to Timothy Pearson it is 'bit for bit' the same as the releaseed version of TDE 3.5.13.
AFAIK the mirrors are not up to date yet, last I checked.
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