26 Apr
2020
26 Apr
'20
12:25 p.m.
I want to open konqueror from the command line -- in split screen -- with
one panel open in a default directory (e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) and the
other panel open in a command line given directory (e.g. /some/where/else/).
I have the profile saved - called "rfs_mount'
I seem to be able to load the command line given directory in one or
the other panels -- after saving a fresh copy of the profile with one or
the other panel "active" at the time the save is done.
But, I have been unable to specify the default directory
(e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) in the _other_ panel.
My semi-successful attempt:
konqueror --profile rfs_mount $HOME/VPS/
... but only the one panel is loaded, and the other is "un-located."
By "un-located", I mean it's not $HOME/ , or / , or anything.
Unless I'm missing something obvious, one cannot specify _two_ URIs on
the command line. Right?
I've tried specifying a home page for the not-active panel before
making the other panel active and saving the profile. No joy.
Has anyone been down this rabbit hole?
Thank you.
Jonesy
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26 Apr
1:19 p.m.
On Sunday 26 April 2020 21.25:07 Marvin Jones via trinity-users wrote:
I want to open konqueror from the command line -- in
split screen -- with
one panel open in a default directory (e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) and the
other panel open in a command line given directory (e.g.
/some/where/else/).
I've just run a test:
- open konqueror (my file management profile is basically dualpane)
- change left pane to /home
- change right pane to something else (here /video)
in konqueror
settings -> Configure view profiles... -> save under name "Test_profile"
(I
saved with url ans windows size ticked).
Now if I open konsole and type
konqueror --profile Test_profile
I get exactly what I have saved.
I have tried this with different new profiles, always works.
Debian Buster / R14.0.7
Thierry
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2020, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Sunday 26 April 2020 21.25:07 Marvin Jones via
trinity-users wrote:
And, I can get that,too.
What I want is
konqueror --profile Test_profile /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane
.. and be all set up copy files to and fro, etc.
And, the /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane maybe/will be different each time.
I do not want to save the 2nd URI in the profile.
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I want to open konqueror from the command line --
in split screen -- with
one panel open in a default directory (e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) and the
other panel open in a command line given directory (e.g.
/some/where/else/).
I've just run a test:
- open konqueror (my file management profile is basically dualpane)
- change left pane to /home
- change right pane to something else (here /video)
in konqueror
settings -> Configure view profiles... -> save under name "Test_profile"
(I
saved with url ans windows size ticked).
Now if I open konsole and type
konqueror --profile Test_profile
I get exactly what I have saved.
10:24 p.m.
On Sunday 26 April 2020 22.55:35 Marvin Jones via trinity-users wrote:
konqueror --profile Test_profile
/URI/for/the/OTHER/pane
.. and be all set up copy files to and fro, etc.
And, the /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane maybe/will be different each time.
I do not want to save the 2nd URI in the profile.
Ah sorry, didn't understand it right. I guess this would take some code
modification...
Thierry
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27 Apr
27 Apr
12:06 a.m.
Am Sonntag, 26. April 2020 schrieb Marvin Jones via trinity-users:
I have the profile saved - called
"rfs_mount'
I seem to be able to load the command line given directory in one or
the other panels -- after saving a fresh copy of the profile with one
or the other panel "active" at the time the save is done.
But, I have been unable to specify the default directory
(e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) in the _other_ panel.
My semi-successful attempt:
konqueror --profile rfs_mount $HOME/VPS/
... but only the one panel is loaded, and the other is "un-located."
By "un-located", I mean it's not $HOME/ , or / , or anything.
Confirmed, same here. When konqueror is started from a command line with
a profile with two panels and an URL, it opens the given URL in one
panel and the other panel empty. None of the directories, which are
defined/saved in the profile are loaded. I would consider this a BUG.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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4:58 a.m.
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, Stefan Krusche wrote:
Am Sonntag, 26. April 2020 schrieb Marvin Jones via
trinity-users:
I thought I could out-wit the process and set _both_ panes to the
default URI in the profile. Then, after setting one pane to be the
active pane, I saved the profile. However - as you found out - when
starting konqueror from the command line with the profile and a given
URI, it opens the given URI in what was the active panel when the
profile was saved, and the other panel is empty. The location bar for
the empty panel has no content, but it seems to be the same as seen
with [about:blank ].
I would also call it a BUG.
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I have the profile saved - called
"rfs_mount'
I seem to be able to load the command line given directory in one or
the other panels -- after saving a fresh copy of the profile with one
or the other panel "active" at the time the save is done.
But, I have been unable to specify the default directory
(e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) in the _other_ panel.
My semi-successful attempt:
konqueror --profile rfs_mount $HOME/VPS/
... but only the one panel is loaded, and the other is "un-located."
By "un-located", I mean it's not $HOME/ , or / , or anything.
Confirmed, same here. When konqueror is started from a command line with
a profile with two panels and an URL, it opens the given URL in one
panel and the other panel empty. None of the directories, which are
defined/saved in the profile are loaded. I would consider this a BUG. 
6:38 a.m.
On 2020-04-26 14:25:07 Marvin Jones via trinity-users wrote:
I want to open konqueror from the command line -- in
split screen -- with
one panel open in a default directory (e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) and the
other panel open in a command line given directory (e.g.
/some/where/else/).
I have the profile saved - called "rfs_mount'
I seem to be able to load the command line given directory in one or
the other panels -- after saving a fresh copy of the profile with one or
the other panel "active" at the time the save is done.
But, I have been unable to specify the default directory
(e.g. $HOME/somewhere/) in the _other_ panel.
My semi-successful attempt:
konqueror --profile rfs_mount $HOME/VPS/
... but only the one panel is loaded, and the other is "un-located."
By "un-located", I mean it's not $HOME/ , or / , or anything.
Unless I'm missing something obvious, one cannot specify _two_ URIs on
the command line. Right?
I've tried specifying a home page for the not-active panel before
making the other panel active and saving the profile. No joy.
Has anyone been down this rabbit hole?
Thank you.
Jonesy
(I see "TDE shirts" is a Trinity code word for "Business Plan" :-)
In Settings -> Load View Profile you will see a "Midnight Commander"
option,
which will open Konqueror with the screen split vertically.
There ought to be a command-line method for invoking this, but unfortunately
the Konqueror Handbook doesn't tell how to do it so that it provides the
split screen; e.g.
konqueror --profile "Midnight Commander" $HOME&
starts it with a single pane. Adding additional paths to the command causes
a "Malformed URL" message.
Does anyone know how to make this work from the command line?
Leslie
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7:08 a.m.
On Monday 27 April 2020 15.38:41 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
In Settings -> Load View Profile you will see a
"Midnight Commander"
option, which will open Konqueror with the screen split vertically.
Only in your distribution/TDE version. This profile does not exist on Debian.
You can create and save it however.
There ought to be a command-line method for invoking
this, but
unfortunately the Konqueror Handbook doesn't tell how to do it so that it
provides the split screen; e.g.
konqueror --profile "Midnight Commander" $HOME&
starts it with a single pane. Adding additional paths to the command
causes a "Malformed URL" message.
Does anyone know how to make this work from the command line?
This is what has been discussed to far. Assuming there is a "Midnight
Commander" profile:
konqueror --profile "Midnight Commander"
will open this profile with whatever content has been saved in *both* panes.
konqueror --profile <whatever profile> <whatever url>
will open konqueror as single or dual pane (depending on your settings in
the "File Management" profile I guess) and only the left pane (if two)
populated with <url>, the other pane is empty.
In short, if you give an url konqueror ignores the profile you typed. I think
this is what they find to be a bug.
Thierry
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
In Settings -> Load View Profile you will see a "Midnight Commander"
option, which will open Konqueror with the screen split vertically.
I do not see that profile. I believe konqueror comes with just two
profiles: "File Management" and "Web Browsing". Possibly your
"Midnight Commander" was added after the Trinity install, or you
have some old KDE 3.5 config files in play.
There ought to be a command-line method for invoking
this, but
+1 :-)
... unfortunately the Konqueror Handbook doesn't
tell how to do it so
that it provides the split screen; e.g.
konqueror --profile "Midnight Commander"
$HOME&
starts it with a single pane. Adding additional paths to the command
causes a "Malformed URL" message.
I avoid embedded spaces in "things" at all costs. :-) Try renaming the
profile to "Midnight_Commander" and test that.
Does anyone know how to make this work from the command
line?
What you're attempting _does_ work for me at the command line:
A split pane profile, with one or the other pane "active" when saving
the profile. Then
konqueror --profile Midnight_Commander $HOME
... would open konqueror in split screen with the user's home directory
in the saved, active pane -- and the other panel totally blank -- ala
about:blank
HTH
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7:25 a.m.
sorry snipped it all, got too long :(
Bug workaround, (temporary, quick and dirty, not tested, I used ‘$HOME/trash/’
for sed testing so make sure to fix the paths!...)
Hmmm, I pretty sure I switched panel-one for panel-two, so fix that too ;)
Part A:
- Open Konqueror
- Like Thierry did setup with two pane paths being different
- change left pane to /home
- change right pane to something else (here /video)
- Save it as profile ‘konqtemplate’
Part B:
- Fine the profile in .trinity/share/apps/konqueror/profiles
- Change the /home to ‘/konquerortemplatepanelone’
- Change the /video to ‘/konquerortemplatepaneltwo’
- Copy konqtemplate to konqtemplate.template (the .template probably needs
to be in some other directory)
Part C:
- Create a batch file to wrapper your ‘konqueror --profile
konqtemplate /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane’ command
- Basic structure
# cat konq2p
{snip, that was going to break}
See: konq2p attached.
Part D:
- Run the command
konq2p “$dir pane one” [“$dir pane two”]
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7:57 a.m.
On 2020-04-27 09:08:29 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday 27 April 2020 15.38:41 J Leslie Turriff
wrote:
Yeah; sorry, I should have waited to reply before reading only the first few
posts, but it looked like the "Midnight Commander" profile was being
overlooked.
And thanks for pointing out that saving its settings keeps the split screen
setup.
Leslie
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In Settings -> Load View Profile you will see
a "Midnight Commander"
option, which will open Konqueror with the screen split vertically.
Only in your distribution/TDE version. This profile does not exist on
Debian. You can create and save it however.
There ought to be a command-line method for
invoking this, but
unfortunately the Konqueror Handbook doesn't tell how to do it so that it
provides the split screen; e.g.
konqueror --profile "Midnight Commander" $HOME&
starts it with a single pane. Adding additional paths to the command
causes a "Malformed URL" message.
Does anyone know how to make this work from the command line?
This is what has been discussed to far. Assuming there is a "Midnight
Commander" profile:
konqueror --profile "Midnight Commander"
will open this profile with whatever content has been saved in *both*
panes.
konqueror --profile <whatever profile> <whatever url>
will open konqueror as single or dual pane (depending on your settings in
the "File Management" profile I guess) and only the left pane (if two)
populated with <url>, the other pane is empty.
In short, if you give an url konqueror ignores the profile you typed. I
think this is what they find to be a bug.
Thierry
7:58 a.m.
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, Michael wrote:
sorry snipped it all, got too long :(
Bug workaround, (temporary, quick and dirty, not tested, I used
‘$HOME/trash/’ for sed testing so make sure to fix the paths!...)
Hmmm, I pretty sure I switched panel-one for panel-two, so fix that too ;)
Hey, Michael, that looks Just Like the kind of bodge that I thrive on!
I have "chores" laid out for today, but I will put it in play tomorrow
and report back.
(I was about to start digging into the .trinity/ files for clues,
but I do not have the detailed knowledge of what to look for --
except, perhaps, to do a recursive grep for my profile name.
You just gave me a Big Head Start!)
Thanks!
Jonesy
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28 Apr
28 Apr
6:12 p.m.
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, Michael wrote:
sorry snipped it all, got too long :(
Bug workaround, (temporary, quick and dirty, not tested, I used ‘$HOME/trash/’
for sed testing so make sure to fix the paths!...)
Hmmm, I pretty sure I switched panel-one for panel-two, so fix that too ;)
Part A:
- Open Konqueror
- Like Thierry did setup with two pane paths being different
- change left pane to /home
- change right pane to something else (here /video)
- Save it as profile ‘konqtemplate’
Part B:
- Fine the profile in .trinity/share/apps/konqueror/profiles
- Change the /home to ‘/konquerortemplatepanelone’
- Change the /video to ‘/konquerortemplatepaneltwo’
- Copy konqtemplate to konqtemplate.template (the .template probably needs
to be in some other directory)
Part C:
- Create a batch file to wrapper your ‘konqueror --profile
konqtemplate /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane’ command
- Basic structure
# cat konq2p
{snip, that was going to break}
See: konq2p attached.
Part D:
- Run the command
konq2p “$dir pane one” [“$dir pane two”]
Michael,
Ok, I said I'd take a crack at it today, and I did.
I took your idea as an "idea platform" to launch my
own solution and it's attached. `rfs_konqueror`
Instead of your idea to use a template file, I dumped the
template directly into my bash script as a HEREDOC. Read
the comments in the head of the script to try and understand
the weirdness in the code. :-)
I just used the script to upload itself to my VPS, where I'm
now doing this email.
I'm just a modest hacker in bash, so I'm sure you or others
will see errors, or "things" that could be better fixed up.
Be kind. I welcome critiques. :-)
I learned several things today. But, the Big One was that
bash variables can be used in a HEREDOC!! Heretofore I had
only used static data with HEREDOCs, and never thought that
bash would interpret any variables as they were pulled out.
Wow! What a day! HEREDOCs with bash variables, and file
permissions fully copied by konqueror!
Best regards,
Jonesy
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10:35 p.m.
On Tuesday 28 April 2020, Marvin Jones via trinity-users wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, Michael wrote:
I love konqueror. It's never failed me. Until khtml became outdated I used it
for a webbrowser too. I miss it for that.
I've written a few action menus but mostly assimilated and adapted existing
ones. Everything from audio/video conversion to graphics stuff. Konq is
amazing, a power tool.
Thanks to all the TDE devels for keeping it all alive. KDE/TDE continues to be
a power tool gui. When you actually do work on your computer.
Thanks Jonesy (cool nick) for the tips and tricks.
Kate
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sorry snipped it all, got too long :(
Bug workaround, (temporary, quick and dirty, not tested, I used
‘$HOME/trash/’ for sed testing so make sure to fix the paths!...)
Hmmm, I pretty sure I switched panel-one for panel-two, so fix that too ;)
Part A:
- Open Konqueror
- Like Thierry did setup with two pane paths being different
- change left pane to /home
- change right pane to something else (here /video)
- Save it as profile ‘konqtemplate’
Part B:
- Fine the profile in .trinity/share/apps/konqueror/profiles
- Change the /home to ‘/konquerortemplatepanelone’
- Change the /video to ‘/konquerortemplatepaneltwo’
- Copy konqtemplate to konqtemplate.template (the .template probably
needs to be in some other directory)
Part C:
- Create a batch file to wrapper your ‘konqueror --profile
konqtemplate /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane’ command
- Basic structure
# cat konq2p
{snip, that was going to break}
See: konq2p attached.
Part D:
- Run the command
konq2p “$dir pane one” [“$dir pane two”]
Michael,
Ok, I said I'd take a crack at it today, and I did.
I took your idea as an "idea platform" to launch my
own solution and it's attached. `rfs_konqueror`
Instead of your idea to use a template file, I dumped the
template directly into my bash script as a HEREDOC. Read
the comments in the head of the script to try and understand
the weirdness in the code. :-)
I just used the script to upload itself to my VPS, where I'm
now doing this email.
I'm just a modest hacker in bash, so I'm sure you or others
will see errors, or "things" that could be better fixed up.
Be kind. I welcome critiques. :-)
I learned several things today. But, the Big One was that
bash variables can be used in a HEREDOC!! Heretofore I had
only used static data with HEREDOCs, and never thought that
bash would interpret any variables as they were pulled out.
Wow! What a day! HEREDOCs with bash variables, and file
permissions fully copied by konqueror!
Best regards,
Jonesy 
11:07 p.m.
Anno domini 19:12:47 Tue, 28 Apr 2020 -0600 (MDT)
Marvin Jones via trinity-users scripsit:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, Michael wrote:
This is nice :)
Nik
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sorry snipped it all, got too long :(
Bug workaround, (temporary, quick and dirty, not tested, I used ‘$HOME/trash/’
for sed testing so make sure to fix the paths!...)
Hmmm, I pretty sure I switched panel-one for panel-two, so fix that too ;)
Part A:
- Open Konqueror
- Like Thierry did setup with two pane paths being different
- change left pane to /home
- change right pane to something else (here /video)
- Save it as profile ‘konqtemplate’
Part B:
- Fine the profile in .trinity/share/apps/konqueror/profiles
- Change the /home to ‘/konquerortemplatepanelone’
- Change the /video to ‘/konquerortemplatepaneltwo’
- Copy konqtemplate to konqtemplate.template (the .template probably needs
to be in some other directory)
Part C:
- Create a batch file to wrapper your ‘konqueror --profile
konqtemplate /URI/for/the/OTHER/pane’ command
- Basic structure
# cat konq2p
{snip, that was going to break}
See: konq2p attached.
Part D:
- Run the command
konq2p “$dir pane one” [“$dir pane two”]
Michael,
Ok, I said I'd take a crack at it today, and I did.
I took your idea as an "idea platform" to launch my
own solution and it's attached. `rfs_konqueror`
Instead of your idea to use a template file, I dumped the
template directly into my bash script as a HEREDOC. Read
the comments in the head of the script to try and understand
the weirdness in the code. :-)
I just used the script to upload itself to my VPS, where I'm
now doing this email.
I'm just a modest hacker in bash, so I'm sure you or others
will see errors, or "things" that could be better fixed up.
Be kind. I welcome critiques. :-)
I learned several things today. But, the Big One was that
bash variables can be used in a HEREDOC!! Heretofore I had
only used static data with HEREDOCs, and never thought that
bash would interpret any variables as they were pulled out.
Wow! What a day! HEREDOCs with bash variables, and file
permissions fully copied by konqueror!
Best regards,
Jonesy
11:56 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 April 2020 03.12:47 Marvin Jones via trinity-users wrote:
Ok, I said I'd take a crack at it today, and I
did.
I took your idea as an "idea platform" to launch my
own solution and it's attached. `rfs_konqueror`
Very interresting, although I don't see for the time where I would use it,
I'll have to look if I can adapt it (I am not very experienced with bash,
mostly used tcl).
What I descovered by reading it is kdialog. I used zenity in my scripts. I'd
prefer the passive dialog to look like a normal message box (I have to use it
as it seems to be the only one with a timeout option).
Thierry
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