No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
ii firefox 18.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.3 Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
Patches are all up to date as of this morning (about 1700 UTC).
In firefox, a number of dialog boxes ... maybe all of them ... that involve saving a file or browsing for a file are broken.
Example: I need Google Chrome for a site that won't work with anything else. The repo line I found is out of date, so I went to their install website. Selected 64-bit deb, get the download dialog, click OK, then nothing. Never shows up no matter whether I accept the default path or change it. Website reacts like it got the "OK, I'm done signal" and progresses to the next page.
I thought maybe it was that old problem that was worked around by using the LD_PRELOAD hack, but no (nor renaming /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload). Thought they were worth a try before posting.
Ideas?
On 01/09/13 14:52, Peter Laws wrote:
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
ii firefox 18.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.3 Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
Patches are all up to date as of this morning (about 1700 UTC).
In firefox, a number of dialog boxes ... maybe all of them ... that involve saving a file or browsing for a file are broken.
Example: I need Google Chrome for a site that won't work with anything else. The repo line I found is out of date, so I went to their install website. Selected 64-bit deb, get the download dialog, click OK, then nothing. Never shows up no matter whether I accept the default path or change it. Website reacts like it got the "OK, I'm done signal" and progresses to the next page.
Very amusing (not). I found the correct APT incantation for chrome and installed it (google-chrome-stable (23.0.1271.97-r171054)). Same problem with the upload dialog! I can select the file, but it never gets inserted in the correct place on the web page. Same as in Firefox.
On 01/09/13 15:10, Peter Laws wrote:
On 01/09/13 14:52, Peter Laws wrote:
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
ii firefox 18.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.3 Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
Patches are all up to date as of this morning (about 1700 UTC).
In firefox, a number of dialog boxes ... maybe all of them ... that involve saving a file or browsing for a file are broken.
Example: I need Google Chrome for a site that won't work with anything else. The repo line I found is out of date, so I went to their install website. Selected 64-bit deb, get the download dialog, click OK, then nothing. Never shows up no matter whether I accept the default path or change it. Website reacts like it got the "OK, I'm done signal" and progresses to the next page.
Very amusing (not). I found the correct APT incantation for chrome and installed it (google-chrome-stable (23.0.1271.97-r171054)). Same problem with the upload dialog! I can select the file, but it never gets inserted in the correct place on the web page. Same as in Firefox.
And could not attach the file to an email in Thunderbird. Clearly not an app problem but somewhere in Trinity?
Dnia środa, 9 stycznia 2013, Peter Laws napisał:
And could not attach the file to an email in Thunderbird. Clearly not an app problem but somewhere in Trinity?
Trinity has a broken GTK integration. Try uninstalling gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity. If that helps you can bump up this bug: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1244
Janek
On 01/10/13 04:25, Jan Stolarek wrote:
Dnia środa, 9 stycznia 2013, Peter Laws napisał:
And could not attach the file to an email in Thunderbird. Clearly not an app problem but somewhere in Trinity?
Trinity has a broken GTK integration. Try uninstalling gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity. If that helps you can bump up this bug: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1244
Thank you, Janek.
When I try to remove those two packages, apt-get wants to also remove kubuntu-desktop-trinity AND it says that since *those* guys are gone, autoremove will remove all *these* packages, too, and proceeds to list about 75 other packages.
I'm going to guess there's a flag that says "no, really, only the two packages I specified" ... but it's not obvious to me in apt-get(8) what that would be.
On Thursday 10 January 2013 08:07:41 you wrote:
On 01/10/13 04:25, Jan Stolarek wrote:
Dnia środa, 9 stycznia 2013, Peter Laws napisał:
And could not attach the file to an email in Thunderbird. Clearly not an app problem but somewhere in Trinity?
Trinity has a broken GTK integration. Try uninstalling gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity. If that helps you can bump up this bug: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1244
Thank you, Janek.
When I try to remove those two packages, apt-get wants to also remove kubuntu-desktop-trinity AND it says that since *those* guys are gone, autoremove will remove all *these* packages, too, and proceeds to list about 75 other packages.
I'm going to guess there's a flag that says "no, really, only the two packages I specified" ... but it's not obvious to me in apt-get(8) what that would be.
Meta package depends issues, kubuntu-desktop-trinity in this case. No harm in removing it other than the 'flag' changing on the packages.
The autoremove scenaro will only occur if you run 'apt-get autoremove'. Kind of a pain, but you can set the packages slated to 'autoremove' to manual install. Not sure how to do this gloabaly, aptitude might do it. I have done it for individual packages. i.e. 'apt-get install <package>' will sett he flag to manual if the package is already installed. Aptitude is morre efficient.
When I try to remove those two packages, apt-get wants to also remove kubuntu-desktop-trinity AND it says that since *those* guys are gone, autoremove will remove all *these* packages, too, and proceeds to list about 75 other packages.
I have no idea why this happens. Perhaps package dependancies in Kubuntu repo are screwed up? I also don't know any reasonable way to prevent deinstalation of other 75 packages. I think you might be able to pin them but that would be tedious and I think it would prevent you from getting updaes to those packages (not sure).
Janek
On 01/13/13 02:08, Jan Stolarek wrote:
When I try to remove those two packages, apt-get wants to also remove kubuntu-desktop-trinity AND it says that since *those* guys are gone, autoremove will remove all *these* packages, too, and proceeds to list about 75 other packages.
I have no idea why this happens. Perhaps package dependancies in Kubuntu repo are screwed up? I also don't know any reasonable way to prevent deinstalation of other 75 packages. I think you might be able to pin them but that would be tedious and I think it would prevent you from getting updaes to those packages (not sure).
Janek
So I'm back to where I was - Firefox and Thunderbird are broken (upload/download dialog boxes)
I can't remove gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity without removing dozens of other packages.
Sounds like 3.5.13.1 is broken to me.
Dne po 14. ledna 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
So I'm back to where I was - Firefox and Thunderbird are broken (upload/download dialog boxes)
I can't remove gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity without removing dozens of other packages.
Sounds like 3.5.13.1 is broken to me.
It's not hopeless.
Instead of uninstalling kgtk-qt3-trinity is sufficient to rename (or delete) /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload.
Instead of uninstalling gtk-qt-engine-trinity should be sufficient to install gtk2-engines-qtcurve and in GTK Styles and Fonts in Control Center set to style QTCurve instead of TDE.
Slavek --
Dne po 14. ledna 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
So I'm back to where I was - Firefox and Thunderbird are broken (upload/download dialog boxes)
I can't remove gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity without removing dozens of other packages.
Sounds like 3.5.13.1 is broken to me.
It's not hopeless.
Instead of uninstalling kgtk-qt3-trinity is sufficient to rename (or delete) /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload.
Instead of uninstalling gtk-qt-engine-trinity should be sufficient to install gtk2-engines-qtcurve and in GTK Styles and Fonts in Control Center set to style QTCurve instead of TDE.
Slavek
kgtk-qt3-trinity is the real problem; gtk-qt-engine-trinity is relatively innocuous but can still caus redraw problems in the latest Firefox versions due to some unknown optimization Firefox now uses.
The metapackage issues have been corrected for R14.0, with kgtk-qt3-trinity being completely removed due to the GTK3 transition which is now in progress. If you want to use TDE open/save dialogs in GTK programs, please tell the GTK developers to add the proper support here: https:// bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650780
Tim
Dne po 14. ledna 2013 Timothy Pearson napsal(a):
kgtk-qt3-trinity is the real problem; gtk-qt-engine-trinity is relatively innocuous but can still caus redraw problems in the latest Firefox versions due to some unknown optimization Firefox now uses.
The metapackage issues have been corrected for R14.0, with kgtk-qt3-trinity being completely removed due to the GTK3 transition which is now in progress. If you want to use TDE open/save dialogs in GTK programs, please tell the GTK developers to add the proper support here: https:// bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650780
It seems to me that sometimes due to gtk-qt-engine crashes Chromium (it is for me the most commonly used GTK application). Unfortunately for now I do not have details about crashes (backtraces).
Slavek --
On 01/14/13 11:16, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 14. ledna 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
So I'm back to where I was - Firefox and Thunderbird are broken (upload/download dialog boxes)
I can't remove gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kgtk-qt3-trinity without removing dozens of other packages.
Sounds like 3.5.13.1 is broken to me.
It's not hopeless.
Instead of uninstalling kgtk-qt3-trinity is sufficient to rename (or delete) /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload.
Doing that seems to help with attaching a file in Thunderbird, but not with saving a file or anything in Chrome or Firefox.
Instead of uninstalling gtk-qt-engine-trinity should be sufficient to install gtk2-engines-qtcurve and in GTK Styles and Fonts in Control Center set to style QTCurve instead of TDE.
Package was there already. In "Appearance - System Settings", I've set "GTK Styles" to QtCurve and "GTK Fonts" to "Use another font" (which shows Sans Serif).
I'll see if that helps.
Thanks again, Slávek!
On 01/14/13 12:19, Peter Laws wrote:
Package was there already. In "Appearance - System Settings", I've set "GTK Styles" to QtCurve and "GTK Fonts" to "Use another font" (which shows Sans Serif).
I'll see if that helps.
Well, no change. Do I need to restart the window manager, or should it be sufficient to restart Thunderbird and Firefox?
Dne po 14. ledna 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
On 01/14/13 12:19, Peter Laws wrote:
Package was there already. In "Appearance - System Settings", I've set "GTK Styles" to QtCurve and "GTK Fonts" to "Use another font" (which shows Sans Serif).
I'll see if that helps.
Well, no change. Do I need to restart the window manager, or should it be sufficient to restart Thunderbird and Firefox?
Setting the font does not seem important to the function.
After weaning /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload is logout / login necessary. After change the style engine, I'm not sure. However, it should be seen in GTK applications, if using TDE style or QTCurve.
Slavek --
On 01/14/13 12:27, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 14. ledna 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
On 01/14/13 12:19, Peter Laws wrote:
Package was there already. In "Appearance - System Settings", I've set "GTK Styles" to QtCurve and "GTK Fonts" to "Use another font" (which shows Sans Serif).
I'll see if that helps.
Well, no change. Do I need to restart the window manager, or should it be sufficient to restart Thunderbird and Firefox?
Setting the font does not seem important to the function.
After weaning /opt/trinity/share/kgtk/preload is logout / login necessary. After change the style engine, I'm not sure. However, it should be seen in GTK applications, if using TDE style or QTCurve.
Ha. Logout, restart did the trick. Now will see if putting the Appearance stuff back reverts.
Many thanks!
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
When I click on Network Settings, I get a dialog saying "Your Platform is Not Supported" and asks me to select my OS from the list. [K]Ubuntu 12.04.1 is not listed.
As much as I'd like that to be fixed, I'd really rather dink with files directly. Is there an equivalent to RHEL's ``NM_CONTROLLED="no"''?
Dne út 5. února 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
When I click on Network Settings, I get a dialog saying "Your Platform is Not Supported" and asks me to select my OS from the list. [K]Ubuntu 12.04.1 is not listed.
As much as I'd like that to be fixed, I'd really rather dink with files directly. Is there an equivalent to RHEL's ``NM_CONTROLLED="no"''?
Thanks for the reminder. I have prepared a patch and tested right now - I'll do a commit soon. Will be included in 3.5.13.2.
Slavek --
On 02/05/13 12:55, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne út 5. února 2013 Peter Laws napsal(a):
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
When I click on Network Settings, I get a dialog saying "Your Platform is Not Supported" and asks me to select my OS from the list. [K]Ubuntu 12.04.1 is not listed.
As much as I'd like that to be fixed, I'd really rather dink with files directly. Is there an equivalent to RHEL's ``NM_CONTROLLED="no"''?
Thanks for the reminder. I have prepared a patch and tested right now - I'll do a commit soon. Will be included in 3.5.13.2.
Thanks, Slavek.
Is there an Ubuntuish equivalent to ``NM_CONTROLLED="no"''? I'd just as soon use the raw files anyway ...
BTW, I ended up working around this with "Network Tools 3.2.0", which I gather is a Gnome thingie.
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
Linux toto 3.2.0-38-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 13 13:22:43 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
When I do an apt-get to install Adobe Acrobat, apt-get insists that I need these other 243 packages as well, all of which seem to be i386. Output below.
Why is that? What does apt-get think it's doing? I thought maybe it was going to apply patches but I did an update/dist-upgrade and rebooted before attempting the install and got the same.
Is there some way to just install acroread? kpdf is nice, but ...
Le 21/02/2013 22:12, Peter Laws a écrit :
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
Linux toto 3.2.0-38-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 13 13:22:43 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
When I do an apt-get to install Adobe Acrobat, apt-get insists that I need these other 243 packages as well, all of which seem to be i386. Output below.
Why is that? What does apt-get think it's doing? I thought maybe it was going to apply patches but I did an update/dist-upgrade and rebooted before attempting the install and got the same.
Is there some way to just install acroread? kpdf is nice, but ...
Hello, Adobe Reader is a 32 bits application, that's why it requires 32 bits libraries on a 64 bits computer. It looks like you currently have almost no 32 bits library installed ... That's why apt wants to install a lots of them. There is nothing you can do to prevent this.
Francois
On 02/21/13 15:33, François Andriot wrote:
Hello, Adobe Reader is a 32 bits application, that's why it requires 32 bits libraries on a 64 bits computer. It looks like you currently have almost no 32 bits library installed ... That's why apt wants to install a lots of them. There is nothing you can do to prevent this.
Merci pour l'info, Francois. I guess those don't get installed by default. Hmm.
On Thursday 21 of February 2013 22:12:40 Peter Laws wrote:
No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise
Linux toto 3.2.0-38-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 13 13:22:43 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ii kdebase-trinity 4:3.5.13-1ubuntu0+ax3~precise base components from the official KDE release
When I do an apt-get to install Adobe Acrobat, apt-get insists that I need these other 243 packages as well, all of which seem to be i386. Output below.
Why is that? What does apt-get think it's doing? I thought maybe it was going to apply patches but I did an update/dist-upgrade and rebooted before attempting the install and got the same.
Is there some way to just install acroread? kpdf is nice, but ...
I use Debian Squeeze and for Acroread I use apt source deb-multimedia.org. Here is a 64bit package prepared in order to use the 32bit libraries ready for 64bit system - installed less than 20 additional packages.
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