I've installed a brand new "Jessie" with TDE. Globally a smooth install.
Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
- if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the password. Neither the root password nor the user password work.
- if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command, the password is asked first, and the program works correctly.
This is no problem with gostcrypt, but with kpackage it means that I can't use "open with" with a package, I must load the package in kpackage (not a big deal, but I wish I would understand what the problem is).
I did not see this problem with openSuSE, seems to be Debian related.
Thierry
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On 12/30/2015 10:23 AM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I've installed a brand new "Jessie" with TDE. Globally a smooth install.
Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
- if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the password. Neither the root password nor the
user password work.
- if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command, the password is asked first, and the program
works correctly.
This is no problem with gostcrypt, but with kpackage it means that I can't use "open with" with a package, I must load the package in kpackage (not a big deal, but I wish I would understand what the problem is).
I did not see this problem with openSuSE, seems to be Debian related.
Thierry
Hi Thierry, I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything wrong. But maybe I was doing something different from you. Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce the post? Some screenshots would also be useful . Thanks Michele
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19.59:42 Michele Calgaro wrote: (...)
Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
- if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the
password. Neither the root password nor the user password work.
- if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command,
the password is asked first, and the program works correctly.
(...)
Thierry
Hi Thierry, I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything wrong. But maybe I was doing something different from you. Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce the post? Some screenshots would also be useful . Thanks Michele
Hi Michele,
Not so easy... There's not much showing.
With kpackage, I get the same behaviour wether I start kpackage (from the TDE/kicker menu) or by right-clicking on the *.deb file and choosing "open with":
kpackage opens, I choose install, kpackage asks for the password (snapshot 1). Maybe a clue? It asks for the SUDO password - I have no sudo password. Neither the root nor the user password work. The dialog box disappears, then comes back, and so on.
If I modify the menu command in "tdesu kpackage", kpackage works (albeit I get a "tdeinit could not start tdesu" message...).
I tried starting kpackage from the command line but all I get is:
thierry@haswell:~$ kpackage TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing TQLayout "unnamed" added to TQVBox "page", which already has a layout thierry@haswell:~$ ^C thierry@haswell:~$
No idea if this tells you something...
Gostcrypt shows a similar behaviour, but with no message at all. I can select the crypted partition, but when I want to mount it this requires the root password, which is not taken, so of course gostcrypt does not get the superuser rights (snapshot 2). tdesu gostcrypt works perfectly, so this is not really a problem.
I also need tdesu to start synaptic, but this is more to get a nice dialog box (otherwise some text window is used to ask for the root password.
Thank you,
Thierry
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 11:39:13 am Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19.59:42 Michele Calgaro wrote: (...)
Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
- if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the
password. Neither the root password nor the user password work.
- if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command,
the password is asked first, and the program works correctly.
(...)
Thierry
Hi Thierry, I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything wrong. But maybe I was doing something different from you. Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce the post? Some screenshots would also be useful . Thanks Michele
Hi Michele,
Not so easy... There's not much showing.
With kpackage, I get the same behaviour wether I start kpackage (from the TDE/kicker menu) or by right-clicking on the *.deb file and choosing "open with":
kpackage opens, I choose install, kpackage asks for the password (snapshot 1). Maybe a clue? It asks for the SUDO password - I have no sudo password. Neither the root nor the user password work. The dialog box disappears, then comes back, and so on.
If I modify the menu command in "tdesu kpackage", kpackage works (albeit I get a "tdeinit could not start tdesu" message...).
I tried starting kpackage from the command line but all I get is:
thierry@haswell:~$ kpackage TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing TQLayout "unnamed" added to TQVBox "page", which already has a layout thierry@haswell:~$ ^C thierry@haswell:~$
No idea if this tells you something...
Gostcrypt shows a similar behaviour, but with no message at all. I can select the crypted partition, but when I want to mount it this requires the root password, which is not taken, so of course gostcrypt does not get the superuser rights (snapshot 2). tdesu gostcrypt works perfectly, so this is not really a problem.
I also need tdesu to start synaptic, but this is more to get a nice dialog box (otherwise some text window is used to ask for the root password.
Thank you,
Thierry
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have you tried adding a sudo password and using it, at least as a workaround
d.
On Thursday 31 December 2015 13.44:14 kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:
have you tried adding a sudo password and using it, at least as a workaround
d.
No, IMHO it would be too messy: I would have a user password, a sudo password, a root password. I don't like sudo because I don't see the limits between user and root, to me it's a bad solution (but I don't want to start yet another sudo vs root discussion).
Starting the programs with tdesu is OK, it's clear that you are root and they work perfectly this way. I will check if addding my user to the sudo group helps, but I am definitely not going to use sudo.
Thanks for the suggestion however.
Note: of course I could give the same password everywhere :) It's not really a joke, as that's what openSuSE's install proposes (to use the user password for root). How they came to that idea I don't know.
Thierry
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