28 Feb
2020
28 Feb
'20
6:41 p.m.
hi all!
Looks like a little GNOME just hit me with a club: I'm working on a presentation with
libreoffice impress (yes, I hnow, why ...). Now that thing has a function "Edit image
using external tool". Selecting that, impress calls "xdg-open
file://tmp/sdfsfewf.png" - which call in my case kuickshow - which is not surprising,
as I use kuickshow for viewing images. But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to
call gimp ???
Nik
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28 Feb
7:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
hi all!
Looks like a little GNOME just hit me with a club: I'm working on a
presentation with libreoffice impress (yes, I hnow, why ...). Now that
thing has a function "Edit image using external tool". Selecting that,
impress calls "xdg-open file://tmp/sdfsfewf.png" - which call in my case
kuickshow - which is not surprising, as I use kuickshow for viewing images.
But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to call gimp ???
Nik
Start Menu -> Settings -> Control Center -> TDE Components -> File
Assiciations -> image -> png
in Application Preference Order - highlight GIMP and choose [Move Up] until
GIMP is at the top of the list.
That should do it, if not, click the Embedding tab and set the radio button to
'Show file in separate viewer'.
If that doesn't do it, then I'm out of bullets.
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7:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:49:24 -0600
David C. Rankin scripsit:
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On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Well, yes, but that kills the setting for the rest of the system :(
hi all!
Looks like a little GNOME just hit me with a club: I'm working on a
presentation with libreoffice impress (yes, I hnow, why ...). Now that
thing has a function "Edit image using external tool". Selecting that,
impress calls "xdg-open file://tmp/sdfsfewf.png" - which call in my case
kuickshow - which is not surprising, as I use kuickshow for viewing images.
But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to call gimp ???
Nik
Start Menu -> Settings -> Control Center -> TDE Components -> File
Assiciations -> image -> png
in Application Preference Order - highlight GIMP and choose [Move Up] until
GIMP is at the top of the list.
That should do it, if not, click the Embedding tab and set the radio button to
'Show file in separate viewer'.
If that doesn't do it, then I'm out of bullets. 
8:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
On Friday 28 February 2020 01:54:26 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:49:24 -0600
David C. Rankin scripsit:
Which is what it's suppose to do... ;)
michael@local [~]# xdg-open --help
xdg-open - opens a file or URL in the user's preferred application
I don't think the current rev's of LO have the ability to allow you to choose
what applications to use like FF does. I believe OO use to, but I'm finding
nothing in Options (and if it did it'd most likely be under either Tools >
Options > LibreOffice or Tools > Options > LibreOffice Base)
I wouldn't, but you could write a wrapper for xdg-open that captures
what/who's sending the request to do what you want. Most likely be a huge
pita, here's a way to get the parent pid:
$$ is defined to return the process ID of the parent in a subshell; from the
man page under "Special Parameters":
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21063765/why-is-returning-the-same-id-a…
Best,
Michael
On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Well, yes, but that kills the setting for the rest of the system :( hi all!
Looks like a little GNOME just hit me with a club: I'm working on a
presentation with libreoffice impress (yes, I hnow, why ...). Now that
thing has a function "Edit image using external tool". Selecting that,
impress calls "xdg-open file://tmp/sdfsfewf.png" - which call in my
case kuickshow - which is not surprising, as I use kuickshow for
viewing images. But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to call
gimp ???
Nik
Start Menu -> Settings -> Control Center -> TDE Components -> File
Assiciations -> image -> png
in Application Preference Order - highlight GIMP and choose [Move Up]
until GIMP is at the top of the list.
That should do it, if not, click the Embedding tab and set the radio
button to 'Show file in separate viewer'.
If that doesn't do it, then I'm out of bullets.
8:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
On Friday 28 February 2020 02:21:21 pm Michael wrote:
On Friday 28 February 2020 01:54:26 pm Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:49:24 -0600
> David C. Rankin scripsit:
> > On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > >
> > > But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to
> > > call gimp ???
Ah, hit send too soon :( Another possibility...
As they are both open source, IF LO and FF are written in close to the same
language and if you also know a similar language, it shouldn't be terribly
difficult to rip out the FF code (about:preferences > General > Applications)
and merge it into LO. LO already has a 'Paths' section, so you could use
that for your LO template.
9 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
On Friday 28 February 2020 12:29:40 Michael wrote:
On Friday 28 February 2020 02:21:21 pm Michael wrote:
For what it's worth, I open up graphics files for editing directly in GIMP,
and almost never use "open with" features; but especially not in a word
processing program. (Also, I use Open Office, and never warmed up to
LibreOffice. They say they're interchangeable, but it's not true.)
Too many things can go wrong, like everything crashing, etc. Better to open it
in GIMP, then edit, then save, and when you're done, import the file, however
you like to do it, into your office program.
If you're working on short documents, maybe it doesn't matter too much, but
when you have large documents with lots of big graphics files, you will run
into that problem of crashing. And nothing kills inspiration like a
misbehaving machine.
Bill
On Friday 28 February 2020 01:54:26 pm Dr.
Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:49:24 -0600
>
> David C. Rankin scripsit:
> > On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to
> > > call gimp ???
Ah, hit send too soon :( Another possibility...
As they are both open source, IF LO and FF are written in close to the same
language and if you also know a similar language, it shouldn't be terribly
difficult to rip out the FF code (about:preferences > General >
Applications) and merge it into LO. LO already has a 'Paths' section, so
you could use that for your LO template.
9:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
Thanks for all the support! Next time I'll insist on LaTeX again,I guess :(
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:00:56 -0800
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
On Friday 28 February 2020 12:29:40 Michael wrote:
> On Friday 28 February 2020 02:21:21 pm Michael wrote:
> > On Friday 28 February 2020 01:54:26 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:49:24 -0600
> > >
> > > David C. Rankin scripsit:
> > > > On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to
> > > > > call gimp ???
>
> Ah, hit send too soon :( Another possibility...
>
> As they are both open source, IF LO and FF are written in close to the same
> language and if you also know a similar language, it shouldn't be terribly
> difficult to rip out the FF code (about:preferences > General >
> Applications) and merge it into LO. LO already has a 'Paths' section, so
> you could use that for your LO template.
>
Ok, there's no way to configure that pestilence. It always calls xdg-open with
absolute path (I'm sure somebody got payed quite a reasonable amount of money to
remove the config dialog that was present some versions back). Patching LO is way too
clumsy, so I'll have to patch xdg-open - at least that is still an editable textfile
... yes, cheers, somebody will soon discover that and patch it to be binary :(
For what it's worth, I open up graphics files for
editing directly in GIMP,
and almost never use "open with" features; but especially not in a word
processing program. (Also, I use Open Office, and never warmed up to
LibreOffice. They say they're interchangeable, but it's not true.)
Problem is: there are already images inside the presentation and I do not have the
original images. And guess what: the "feature" "save image as .." is
gone, too. Probably removed by the same GNOME as the config dialog.
Too many things can go wrong, like everything crashing, etc. Better to open it
in GIMP, then edit, then save, and when you're done, import the file, however
you like to do it, into your office program.
If you're working on short documents, maybe it doesn't matter too much, but
when you have large documents with lots of big graphics files, you will run
into that problem of crashing. And nothing kills inspiration like a
misbehaving machine.
Oh yes. That's the next thing I fear. And the stuff is graphic-intense. Oh my, I think
it's called progress ... wait a second, wasn't that the deault behaviour of
"the great destroyer of companies and unlimited macro fun" aka
"Word"?
Nik
Bill
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12:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
On Friday 28 February 2020 13:22:19 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
In general, I stick to the most primitive features of office programs. When I
do page layout, I basically am doing it the old-fashioned way (I mean, before
computers), so that my pages have the look of a real book. Whenever I use the
automated "features", something almost always goes wrong; and the best
possible result is to end up with pages that don't quite look like I want.
Rather than expecting the machine to do things for me unasked, or to
anticipate what I want, I just want my machine to obey me. If I wanted
something with a mind of its own, I would get a dog, or worse, a cat.
Bill
Thanks for all the support! Next time I'll insist
on LaTeX again,I guess :(
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:00:56 -0800
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
In Open Office, I am pretty sure that I can still right-click on images and
then choose to copy them. (This might have changed, as I haven't used that
trick in a long while.) Then I manually paste them into a file manager, such
as Konqueror, then open that file in GIMP. Then repeat the other steps as I
said already.
On Friday 28 February 2020 12:29:40 Michael
wrote:
> On Friday 28 February 2020 02:21:21 pm Michael wrote:
> > On Friday 28 February 2020 01:54:26 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Feb 13:49:24 -0600
> > >
> > > David C. Rankin scripsit:
> > > > On 02/28/2020 12:41 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > But how do I persuade that piece of a genius to
> > > > > call gimp ???
>
> Ah, hit send too soon :( Another possibility...
>
> As they are both open source, IF LO and FF are written in close to the
> same language and if you also know a similar language, it shouldn't be
> terribly difficult to rip out the FF code (about:preferences > General
> > Applications) and merge it into LO. LO already has a 'Paths'
> section, so you could use that for your LO template.
Ok, there's no way to configure that pestilence. It always calls xdg-open
with absolute path (I'm sure somebody got payed quite a reasonable amount
of money to remove the config dialog that was present some versions back).
Patching LO is way too clumsy, so I'll have to patch xdg-open - at least
that is still an editable textfile ... yes, cheers, somebody will soon
discover that and patch it to be binary :(
For what it's worth, I open up graphics files
for editing directly in
GIMP, and almost never use "open with" features; but especially not in a
word processing program. (Also, I use Open Office, and never warmed up to
LibreOffice. They say they're interchangeable, but it's not true.)
Problem is: there are already images inside the presentation and I do not
have the original images. And guess what: the "feature" "save image as
.."
is gone, too. Probably removed by the same GNOME as the config dialog. Too many things can go wrong, like everything
crashing, etc. Better to
open it in GIMP, then edit, then save, and when you're done, import the
file, however you like to do it, into your office program.
If you're working on short documents, maybe it doesn't matter too much,
but when you have large documents with lots of big graphics files, you
will run into that problem of crashing. And nothing kills inspiration
like a misbehaving machine.
Oh yes. That's the next thing I fear. And the stuff is graphic-intense. Oh
my, I think it's called progress ... wait a second, wasn't that the deault
behaviour of "the great destroyer of companies and unlimited macro fun" aka
"Word"?
Nik
1 Mar
1 Mar
10:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
Hi Nik,
Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
Problem is: there are already images inside the
presentation and I do
not have the original images. And guess what: the "feature" "save
image as .." is gone, too. Probably removed by the same GNOME as the
config dialog.
I have tried that in libreoffice-impress.
In presentation mode there indeed is no way to "save as..." the image.
But when I switch to editing mode, there is.
Version information of libreoffice-impress on the system I use:
*** 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u11 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64
HTH
Kind regards,
Stefan
11:54 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
Hi Stefan!
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 1 Mar 11:43:19 +0100
Stefan Krusche scripsit:
Hi Nik,
Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
Found it.
I also tried to patch xdg-open, but somehow libreoffice refuses to refresh/reload the
modified image, so no success on that battlefield.
Nik
Problem is: there are already images inside the
presentation and I do
not have the original images. And guess what: the "feature" "save
image as .." is gone, too. Probably removed by the same GNOME as the
config dialog.
I have tried that in libreoffice-impress.
In presentation mode there indeed is no way to "save as..." the image.
But when I switch to editing mode, there is.
Version information of libreoffice-impress on the system I use:
*** 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u11 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64
HTH
Kind regards,
Stefan
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New subject: [trinity-users] xdg-open and libreoffice
On 02/28/2020 01:54 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
It will be a toughie from within Impress. Generally, from konqueror, I just
right-click and Open with... if I want to open with something other than the
default.
My only other thought would be checking the minutia of the Impress settings to
see if it doesn't have some separate Open With... setting for image editing
(it's pretty smart, so it wouldn't surprise me if it did). Otherwise, I think
you are stuck with a default File Association choice.
--
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Start Menu
-> Settings -> Control Center -> TDE Components -> File
Assiciations -> image -> png
in Application Preference Order - highlight GIMP and choose [Move Up] until
GIMP is at the top of the list.
That should do it, if not, click the Embedding tab and set the radio button to
'Show file in separate viewer'.
If that doesn't do it, then I'm out of bullets.
Well, yes, but that kills
the setting for the rest of the system :(
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