2 Dec
2015
2 Dec
'15
3:22 p.m.
Hi
I have one very important question as well. How are you guys/pros syncing
your mobile phones with TDE.
Years ago I worked on opensync, which died because of syncml. I am also
following the story of syncevolution, but they provided only support for
kde4+
I recall the time (must be 10y ago) when I had no issue to sync up my palm
III with KDE ... and after this all went wrong. Since the time I have a
smart phone it does not work for me.
I would never use an external service that is not under my control, but I
could run a service on my public server.
(Working) solutions are highly appreciated
thanks in advance
regards
2 Dec
2 Dec
4:18 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] mobile phone sync with TDE - how the pro is doing it
Dne st 2. prosince 2015 deloptes napsal(a):
Hi
I have one very important question as well. How are you guys/pros syncing
your mobile phones with TDE.
Years ago I worked on opensync, which died because of syncml. I am also
following the story of syncevolution, but they provided only support for
kde4+
I recall the time (must be 10y ago) when I had no issue to sync up my palm
III with KDE ... and after this all went wrong. Since the time I have a
smart phone it does not work for me.
I would never use an external service that is not under my control, but I
could run a service on my public server.
(Working) solutions are highly appreciated
thanks in advance
regards
I successfully use SOGo - http://www.sogo.nu/ - this is an excellent groupware
server that uses standard protocols - SMTP / IMAP (Sieve), CalDAV, CardDAV.
TDE includes support for CalDAV and CardDAV, however, still need to work on
them a bit.
--
Slávek
6:31 p.m.
Slávek Banko wrote:
I successfully use SOGo - http://www.sogo.nu/ - this
is an excellent
groupware server that uses standard protocols - SMTP / IMAP (Sieve),
CalDAV, CardDAV. TDE includes support for CalDAV and CardDAV, however,
still need to work on them a bit.
Hi thanks for quick response, so you installed it in your network and you
can confirm it works fine with TDE.
What set of items are you syncing. I am interested in the typical set of
tools: calendar, todo, note, address at least.
What is the part in TDE that supports those protocols (Cal/CardDAV), I could
perhaps help a bit - depends on the language its written.
I'll have a look into Sogo next.
regards
9:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: mobile phone sync with TDE - how the pro is doing it
On Wednesday 02 of December 2015 19:31:13 deloptes wrote:
Slávek Banko wrote:
KAddressbook can use CardDAV == contacts. Thanks to KAddressbook contacts are
available in all programs that use it - for example, KMail, KOrganizer,...
KOrganizer can use CalDAV == calendar events, tasks.
For general notes SOGo unfortunately does not have interface. If I understand
correctly, there is no standard protocol for notes (like CalDAV). I use tasks
instead of notes.
As I mentioned above, TDE plugins for CalDAV and CardDAV are not yet working
absolutely flawlessly - there are some shortcomings that need to be fixed.
However, it is reasonably usable.
--
Slávek
I successfully use SOGo - http://www.sogo.nu/ -
this is an excellent
groupware server that uses standard protocols - SMTP / IMAP (Sieve),
CalDAV, CardDAV. TDE includes support for CalDAV and CardDAV, however,
still need to work on them a bit.
Hi thanks for quick response, so you installed it in your network and you
can confirm it works fine with TDE.
What set of items are you syncing. I am interested in the typical set of
tools: calendar, todo, note, address at least.
What is the part in TDE that supports those protocols (Cal/CardDAV), I
could perhaps help a bit - depends on the language its written.
I'll have a look into Sogo next.
regards
3 Dec
3 Dec
8:24 a.m.
Slávek Banko wrote:
As I mentioned above, TDE plugins for CalDAV and
CardDAV are not yet
working absolutely flawlessly - there are some shortcomings that need to
be fixed. However, it is reasonably usable.
When we were discussing the state of opensync - the question was what
happens if you have a central repo for the sync. I am not sure if the
solution does not raise same question.
Imagine you have at least 2 devices (Computer, Mobile) and the server where
the SOG is running.
You have following scenario:
- modify address or calendar information for record N
- sync up Computer with Server - record N gets synced up with Server
- In the meantime you modify this record N on the mobile
- sync up Mobile with Server - what is the state of record N on the Mobile
If you don't get asked - which one should have precedence ... could be a
problem
I'm just trying to estimate usability and effort - perhaps I should sit down
and write plugins for TDE and SyncEvo - it looks like all of us are
planning to use TDE in the future
From the discussion with SyncEvo I understood they have the best SyncML
library available.
8:44 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: mobile phone sync with TDE - how the pro is doing it
Hi deloptes:
I have a virtual machine running OwnCloud. Calender and addresss data is
managed on the computer with thunderbird (or by the web frondend) and
for syncing there are cheap (~ 1€) apps for iphone and adroid and windows.
There is a file syncing tool in debian available, but I use konquerer
with webdav to access files.
I found no way to use CalDav and/or CardDAV with net connections (only
on local machine) and get no answer for related question on this list.
Hope that helps
Rolf
9:53 a.m.
Rolf Schmidt wrote:
Thanks Rolf, it helps get a better picture.
Here some comments
Hi deloptes:
I have a virtual machine running OwnCloud. Calender and addresss data is
managed on the computer with thunderbird (or by the web frondend) and
for syncing there are cheap (~ 1€) apps for iphone and adroid and windows.
This means OwnCloud is the master for your PIM data.
One of the things that make it more complex is that I do use Nokia N9 and
the next phone I'll buy will be Jolla. I'm also thinking of buying Jolla
tablet. That is why I was hoping that someone would sit down and write a
decent plugin for t(k)depim. The problem is in the complexity of the SyncML
protocol ... so the only way would be to implement it based on
syncevolution as they did it with akonadi.
In fact I'm not sure what is the status of the TDEPIM. I got desperate and
dropped the work on the KDE+ akonadi and opensync and then dropped the idea
to use KDE4+.
One of the reasons was the discussion with syncevo and the syncml protocol.
The other was the status of KDE4+.
I then decided to stick to KDE3 , which fortunately got support by Thimothy.
(God bless him!)
There is a file syncing tool in debian available, but I use konquerer
with webdav to access files.
Which tool do you mean?
I found no way to use CalDav and/or CardDAV with net connections (only
on local machine) and get no answer for related question on this list.
I am not sure this is the best way as well - you surely need a local server
to provide the connection, however I need to sync at least 2 devices with
the PC - so 3 devices in total, where the PC would be the one to provide
the sync engine. I am not aware of any service keeping track of clients and
changes in this context, which is the case in SyncML.
Having too many projects == work I was and am still not able to spend too
much time in open source development.
However checking the status I think it would benefit us all to bring the
syncevo engine to the TDE community. Which means developing TDEPIM
interface and plugin(s).
Perhaps I should move the discussion to the dev list as the picture from
user perspective is pretty clear now.
Any additional input is appreciated
Thanks
2 Dec
2 Dec
7:18 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] mobile phone sync with TDE - how the pro is doing it
On Wednesday 02 December 2015 16.22:16 deloptes wrote:
Hi
I have one very important question as well. How are you guys/pros syncing
your mobile phones with TDE.
I use... Google. I don't like the company itself, but I must admit that using
contacts and calendar make sync easy.
Thierry
8:17 p.m.
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I use... Google. I don't like the company itself,
but I must admit that
using contacts and calendar make sync easy.
Hi
I feel sorry for you - I can't give away my private and business infomation
to foreign company, less to a one like Google.
My question implies that such simple solutions are not an answer.
thanks anyway
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