- tde-users - Trinity Desktop Environment

Unable to configure Konsole schema
by Edward 04 Dec '20

04 Dec '20

I am trying to change the screen background in Trinity's Konsole and not having any luck. In PCLinuxOS, it defaults to white text on a black screen. Settings/Configure Konsole/Schema shows it's on 'Linux Colors'. In both Debian and Ubuntu, it's the opposite, default is black text on a white screen. The Schema setting in both, is on 'Black on Light Color'. In all three, if I change the Schema to 'Transparent, Light Background' and click Apply, nothing happens. If I exit Konsole and relaunch, the Schema is back to 'Linux Colors' and 'Black on Light Color', respectively. PCLinuxOS is the main (or 'host') OS installed on the hard drive, both Debian and TDE Ubuntu are installed in VirtualBoxes. Am I perhaps missing a step somewhere?? Thanks in advance. Ed

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net_applet not configurable as user
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 04 Dec '20

04 Dec '20

Hi humans, AIs and others. I'm having a little problem with net_applet in that it's not configurable as user. Obviously a perms problem but ran out of places to look. It works normally as root. Any suggestions? Kate

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[trinity-users] Desktop theme regression in preliminary stable builds?
by Philip Ashmore 04 Dec '20

04 Dec '20

Hi there. Rather than file a bug which might not get noticed immediately I thought I would post here, sorry if that's not the right thing to do, but I thought it a good idea to start a thread to keep track of the issues. I'm running preliminary stable builds on bullseye/sid. The theme defaults to something from the Windows 95 time frame. I set it back to keramik, everything's back to how I want it. Manually save session, restart X and it's back to Windows 95. Konqueror has a background noise image in the detailed list view I don't remember it having before, plus the icons in the detailed list view are larger those in the tree view. The science screen saver, when activated hides all windows, shows the desktop background, and does nothing. At least the session manager doesn't crash when shutting down, which is a plus. Regards, Philip Ashmore --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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How to switch back from Kontact to Kmail
by J Leslie Turriff 04 Dec '20

04 Dec '20

I got curious and opened Kontact to see what it does, but I've decided not to use it because it doesn't show my customized toolbars in Kmail; but now if I open any of its components by name or icon, Kontact opens instead. How can I go back to using plain ol' Kmail with my customizations? Leslie

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Make Markdown documents viewable in Konqueror
by J Leslie Turriff 03 Dec '20

03 Dec '20

Just about every project on Git, etc. puts its readme and install documentation in Markdown documents any more. I have found a command-line tool, mdless, which works nicely in Konsole, but I can't see how to make it work with Konqueror. I have added an entry in Settings => File Associations for text/markdown that associates *.md with mdless, but it does nothing when I click on a *.md file. Is this something that I can accomplish with DCOP or some such? Leslie

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Thunderbird opening minimized with Trinity desktops
by Edward 01 Dec '20

01 Dec '20

I've noticed with the Debian and Ubuntu Trinity VirtualBoxes, as well as with Trinity/PCLinuxOS as the host OS, when I launch Thunderbird, it (kind of) opens minimized, taking up the left half of the screen each time and I have to select the maximize icon in the window title bar to maximize/full screen it. With the separate install of Debian (LXQt, without Trinity), Thunderbird opens full-screen each time. Is there a setting in Trinity that could be causing the above to occur?

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Re: [Emc-users] crazy #2
by Gene Heskett 01 Dec '20

01 Dec '20

On Tuesday 01 December 2020 12:41:57 you wrote: > Spam detection software, running on the system "coyote.coyote.den", > has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original > message has been attached to this so you can view it or label > similar future email. If you have any questions, see > the administrator of that system for details. > > Content preview: Den 2020-12-01 kl. 09:36, skrev Gene Heskett: > Has > anyone setup the at_pid to autotune at lcnc startup? > > If so, some > good starting value suggestions would be appreciated as I've > not a > clue as to [...] > > Content analysis details: (5.2 points, 5.0 required) > > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- 0.8 BAYES_50 > BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4985] > 0.8 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record > (neutral) 2.3 FSL_HELO_BARE_IP_1 No description available. > 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host > with no rDNS 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD > -0.0 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) > 0.0 HELO_MISC_IP Looking for more Dynamic IP Relays I can't answer your email with the tde version of kmail, it refuses to quote your text. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Libreoffice 7 + avahi + TDE
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 01 Dec '20

01 Dec '20

Hi all! I think the GNOMEs of GNOME have done it again. I just ran across 3 problems: 1) TDE sees all CUPS-printers in the LAN and can print to them. Libreoffice 7 does not. 2) Libreoffice uses 96dpi, no matter what I do. The workaround with GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.33 does not work any more. Does anybody know how I can solve these issues? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Trinity Slax LiveCD
by Edward 30 Nov '20

30 Nov '20

Does anyone know which Debian version the latest Trinity Slax LiveCD is based on? Although I have the Trinity Debian (20.04.1) image installed in a VirtualBox, Debian has not updated Thunderbird to version 78.5 (the latest from Mozilla) for this release. They have provided 78.5 for Debian 20.10, but for 20.04.1 and the previous two LTS releases, Thunderbird is still on version 68, which is now EOL'd and has been for some time now Thanks.

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tdenetworkmanager solved.
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Nov '20

29 Nov '20

NM Borgs, I found it. It's my fault. I thought I had deleted the .desktop from trinity's autostart. All did was accidentally renamed it to 7.desktop. I need to sleep. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Kate

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tdenetworkmanager
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Nov '20

29 Nov '20

Hi people, the hardware portion of the new beast is complete (it's so bloody fast). Anyway, I had an odd one, tdenetworkmanager keeps autostarting at boot. Even though, it not in any autostart dir. Granted, I only know of 3. Trinity, xdg and user's. Is there somewhere else I might look into that could explain why it's auto starting. Me session are set to start with an empty session, so that's not it. Thanks for the info, Kate

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[OT] Creative Sound Blaster Card SB1570
by Edward 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

I purchased the same Creative Sound Blaster (SB1570) card that Kate referenced in a prior message. The card arrived today and it works with Trinity/PCLinuxOS, right out of the box. lspci is showing the card using the 'snd_hda_intel' kernel module. -- This message was sent using virtual technology.

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Trinity Triple Play
by Edward 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

This morning, I finished installation of another VirtualBox. Installed the Debian 10.6 image, then after upgrading, installed the Trinity Debian packages. To my surprise, it automatically added and configured my HP printer. Once again, excellent work! :) Trinity PCLinuxOS (the host OS), Trinity Ubuntu, Trinity Debian. -- This message was sent using virtual technology.

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Re: TDE, ALSA and a seperate mic ...
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

> On Wednesday 25 November 2020 05:18:53 pm Edward via tde-users wrote: > > VirtualBox is all new to me. I'm just barely getting started with it to > > see what it can and cannot do. TDE/Ubuntu runs very well in it. > > Hi Ed, > > Do you have a VirtualBox tutorial and/or setup instructions guide that you > used (and liked)? > > Like you VirtualBox isn't something I've used before and I'm trying to get the > wife to move to TDE, but she has 2 windows programs she has to use (neither > run well under wine). > > Thanks, > Michael > ____________________________________________________ +1 on the tutorial request I use qemu but VB looks cool and might be easier in the long run. Kate

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Impressed with Trinity
by Edward 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

Now that I have had a chance to try out Trinity for a couple of weeks, with PCLinuxOS and (in a VirtualBox) Ubuntu, I am impressed with it. It's using no where near the amount of RAM that Fedora (my previous distro) used and on both desktops, despite being nine and 11 years old, Trinity runs very fast (yes, even with TDE/Ubuntu in a VB). Excellent work. :) -- This message was sent using virtual technology.

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New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 26 Nov '20

26 Nov '20

Ok update on the audio card question. Card chosen = SB Audigy RX - 100% natively supported. Please note this card has an optical io port that is ON by default when first installed. Turn it off to activate the 1/8 jacks. Otherwise there will be no signal out or in (no audio/mic/ or linein). The sound quality is as good as the card it replaced which is now in Gary's (brother from another mother) computer. He's having fun. Sadly, the RX, doesn't have a break out box like the Platinum does, so I have to make one. No biggy, 3 wires in a project box. According to the headaches I gave out freely at Creative Labs and a variety of other source. Any emu10kx chip is native on linux and, infact, has better support than mac and windows. Yeeeah for us. So.. solved, concluded, moving on (if anyone has any question please feel free to ask). Next... As I said I'm rebuilding me 20 year old machine. Here's a basics parts list. Asus Prime x299-a 2 (great bloody board) 32G Corsair RAM (32K I think) Intel Core i9-10980XE Cascade Lake 3.0 GHz LGA 2066 The computer has 7 hard drives, 1 BR optical drive (the board has 8 sata ports). 1 Seagate (sg) 500g ssd root / boot drive (sda) 1 sg 2tb ssd home (sdb) 5 (ssd & spin drives) are work drives and archives for redudant backups. Then there are 2 hotswap bays with can hold 2 drives a piece on an addon pci-e sata controller. The board uses uefi. So, I'd like some advice on the sda drive setup. Here's what I was going for essentially. Swap = 32G (I know it seems like overkill but lots of 4k video work so it helps plus need to hibernate). ESP partition of vfat32 / XX mbs. There's the first question, how big should it be? Test install is using 32mb. No other OSes will be installed. The remaining space will be used for / and all the software. sda1 = swap - 32g sda2 = esp - xx size sda3 = / - remaining space Second question, partition order. Good or are there better arrangements. sb1 /home (in case anyone needs to know). All input is welcomed. As always, thank you again collective, Kate

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Packages of pinentry in pinentry-tqt flavor
by Slávek Banko 25 Nov '20

25 Nov '20

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about pinetry-tqt packages: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers Slávek --

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Re: New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 25 Nov '20

25 Nov '20

> On 11/24/20 5:56 PM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > >>> Ok word of warning. > >>> > >>> If you suddenly lose a sata port, move the card. > >>> It's ok to put a x1 into a x4, 8 and 16 slot. > >>> Also, if you don't get any sound out of it, but it's completely detected, > >>> make sure the optical port option is OFF. You'll find that in the > >>> switches section of kmix. > >>> > >>> let us know how it goes, > >>> > >>> Kate > >> Thanks for this info. The PC (strangely) only came with two PCI-E x1 > >> (non-open-ended) slots, despite that system being two years *newer* than > >> this one (which has two PCI-E x1, one x16 and one legacy PCI). > >> > >> One of the x1 slots in the other PC is being used by the network card. > >> ____________________________________________________ > > Wait you don't have any x16 slots? > > > > As for kscd, I needed to delete the old configs and reinstall the associated > > packages and now I can play an audio cd. Thank you Slavek. > > > > Kate > > Two x1 slots: > > https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03054469 > > FWIW, when I inquired on the local Linux group's listserv about a > Radeon-based video card for an x1 slot, one of the respondents said it > was the first time he had heard of a PC shipping with *only* x1 slots. > > ____________________________________________________ I understand now. Proprietary computer makers, like to limit upgradability to encourage new sales. It's still a usable board. I see it as a challenge. Kate

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Re: New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

> On 11/24/20 3:29 PM, deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > Edward via tde-users wrote: > > > >> I have not yet put the card in, but had a thought... The sound cards > >> from that era, have a jack where an audio cable connected it to the > >> CD/DVD drive. Where the card would override the on-board audio once > >> installed, would that audio cable still be necessary today, or would > >> today's motherboards know to route the audio from the CD/DVD through the > >> motherboard, directly to the sound card? I haven't actually looked at > >> the back of the DVD drive to see if it even has that connection on it. > >> That system is from 2009. > > I do not think modern drives have it - you can easily diagnose it by > > observing the front panel of the drive - if it has an audio jack, it can > > independently play audio. > > > > Applications such as kscd would work with the data being read from the > > drive. I do not know why Kate would say kscd needs an audio cable. > > I guess kscd is able to control the drive (play/pause etc.), so that if you > > have a CD player you could just tell it play and listen on the audio jack > > of the player. However it should be working as a player too - playing the > > cdrom. Last time I tried few months ago it worked nicely. > > The drive does not have an audio jack on the front. > > ____________________________________________________ kscd will control the hardware but it needs a optical drive to audio card audio cable to play the output. You can test it yourself. I think Ed was talking about the back cable not the audio out front panel port some optical drive had. Kate

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Re: New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

> On 11/23/20 3:41 PM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > On Monday 23 November 2020, Edward via tde-users wrote: > >> On 11/23/20 11:40 AM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > >>> Ok update on the audio card question. > >>> > >>> Card chosen = SB Audigy RX - 100% natively supported. Please note this > >>> card has an optical io port that is ON by default when first > >>> installed. Turn it off to activate the 1/8 jacks. Otherwise there will > >>> be no signal out or in (no audio/mic/ or linein). > >>> > >>> The sound quality is as good as the card it replaced which is now in > >>> Gary's (brother from another mother) computer. He's having fun. Sadly, > >>> the RX, doesn't have a break out box like the Platinum does, so I have > >>> to make one. No biggy, 3 wires in a project box. > >>> > >>> According to the headaches I gave out freely at Creative Labs and a > >>> variety of other source. Any emu10kx chip is native on linux and, > >>> infact, has better support than mac and windows. Yeeeah for us. > >>> > >>> So.. solved, concluded, moving on (if anyone has any question please > >>> feel free to ask). > >> This is good to know. I had been looking at my Creative Sound Blaster > >> Live! 5.1 (legacy PCI) sound card, which I believe has a year in the > >> early 2000's shown on its printed circuit board and have been > >> contemplating installing it in the other desktop, just to see if it > >> still works and if the audio is better than what's provided from the > >> on-board (NVIDIA). > >> > >> ____________________________________________________ > > I have tons of those and they all work perfectly. In fact, this machine has > > one Live! 5.1 and it's working grand. > > > > Go for it. > > > > Kate > > I have not yet put the card in, but had a thought... The sound cards > from that era, have a jack where an audio cable connected it to the > CD/DVD drive. Where the card would override the on-board audio once > installed, would that audio cable still be necessary today, or would > today's motherboards know to route the audio from the CD/DVD through the > motherboard, directly to the sound card? I haven't actually looked at > the back of the DVD drive to see if it even has that connection on it. > That system is from 2009. > > ____________________________________________________ Hi Ed, The cable is no longer needed. It's handled by software. The only app I think might need it is kscd. I'll check and get back to you. Kate

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No online audio with Trinity Ubuntu 20.04 Image
by Edward 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio. The 'lspci -v' command is showing two audio devices: 00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a6c Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fe028000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] Subsystem: VISIONTEK Device aa68 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28 Memory at fdcfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel The Trinity PCLinuxOS image is installed on this desktop's hard drive and audio works everywhere. KMix lists three mixers, PulseAudio (the default), HDA NVidia and HDA ATI HDMI. The AMD entry is actually a PCI-E x16 video card, with VGA, HDMI and DVI inputs. It's connected to a monitor via HDMI, but the monitor does not have built-in speakers. The NVIDIA entry is the on-board audio. I tried restarting the audio system by checking then un-checking a box, but on the Debian image, this didn't correct the lack of audio. Is the Debian software possibly not recognizing the audio setup correctly, even though the system sounds work? Thanks in advance.

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[tde-users][suse] update alternatives for default desktop
by Felix Miata 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/default-displaymanager default-displaymanager /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/tdm 15 /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --config default-displaymanager Above sets the default display manager to TDM. What is the corresponding first command to install TDE (as a desktop selection)? I know how to make it work via symlink, but what is the update-alternatives command method??? The symlink method doesn't make TDE an available selection when update-alternatives --config is run. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Windows are forgetting my size preferences
by J Leslie Turriff 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

For some time now, whenever I open a PDF file with kpdf, its window appears only a few inches tall instead of the max height from when I have previously closed it. I have tried to use Advanced => Special Window Settings => Maximized vertically [force], but that doesn't work. Now the main kmail window is starting to do the same thing. What's causing this, and how can I fix it? Leslie

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atlantikdesigner-trinity ?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 22 Nov '20

22 Nov '20

Somehow tdeaddons-trinity pulls in atlantikdesigner-trinity, but IMO this should only be a dependency iod tde-games. Or is there a reason for this? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Avengers Assemble
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 21 Nov '20

21 Nov '20

Ok humans, AIs and others... I hope this email finds you and yours healthy and safe. I never everyone's input here. Ok, every 20 years (yes that's right), I rebuild my primary computer. It's now time. I have all the pieces collect save for 1. I need to replace my fully linux supported Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum PCIx with a PCIe card. I'm currently looking at this one, Creative SoundBlaster AE-7. However I can't find any definitive info stating it's linux supported. I'm using Kernel 4.19.124-pclos1 because of it's excellent stability. Until the human unit, designated as "Alistair Izzard" (who's judgment I've come to trust well) rolls out a new ISO, I'll stick with this kernel. Can anyone find any info on it or suggest a similar but fully supported card? All input is welcome. Thanks in advance. Begin processing... Cheers, Kate PS, I'm so going to binge watch the marvel movies now.

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Re: Windows shortened on opening
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

> For quite a while now, whenever I opened a PDF document the kpdf window > appeared only a few inches tall, not max height. I have tried using Advanced > => Window Settings => > ____________________________________________________ Yes, I've noticed kdf acting strangely. However, I close it, reopen and all is well. Here's a screenshot of what I get. Ok never mind, I can't get it do it now. 0_o Sorry, not helpful but I can say I've seen odd behavoir. Kate

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Windows shortened on opening
by J Leslie Turriff 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

For quite a while now, whenever I opened a PDF document the kpdf window appeared only a few inches tall, not max height. I have tried using Advanced => Window Settings =>

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Re: Startup sound not playing all the time
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:57 -0500 > Edward via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote: > > > I've noticed when the systems boot up, the startup sound is not > > playing all of the time, but the sound at logoff plays all the time. > > > > Is there a setting that will perhaps fix this? I looked at TCC/Sound & > > Multimedia/Sound System, but wasn't sure if any of those settings > > would correct it. > > > > Also, after I installed the OS on my other system, in order for the > > system sounds to play at all, I had to go to the same selection, > > choose Hardware, change the Audio Device from Autodetect to ALSA, save > > it, then change it back to Autodetect. Should this setting > > specifically be on ALSA? > > > > Thank you in advance. > > Want to provide an update. I found a web page from what appears to be a > Linux marketing company, which had images of the default sound settings > from KDE 3 in Ubuntu 8.10. > > On the TCC/Sound & Multimedia/Sound System Configure screen, the only > differences vs the KDE 3/Ubuntu screenshots, were that Networked Sound > was not checked and the Auto-Suspend setting was on 60 seconds (vs the > 1 second default in PCLinuxOS TDE Mini). > > I changed the Skip Prevention Sound Buffer back to the 232 > milliseconds default and made the other changes. So far, at every boot > (warm or cold), the startup sound has played each time on my main > desktop. I am going to make the same changes on my other desktop, to > see how it goes on that, it has a somewhat slower CPU than what's in > the main system. > > To be continued... :) > > ____________________________________________________ Thanks Ed, I'm saving this email to add to me knowledge dbase later. Thank you for sharing. Kate

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Startup sound not playing all the time
by Edward 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

I've noticed when the systems boot up, the startup sound is not playing all of the time, but the sound at logoff plays all the time. Is there a setting that will perhaps fix this? I looked at TCC/Sound & Multimedia/Sound System, but wasn't sure if any of those settings would correct it. Also, after I installed the OS on my other system, in order for the system sounds to play at all, I had to go to the same selection, choose Hardware, change the Audio Device from Autodetect to ALSA, save it, then change it back to Autodetect. Should this setting specifically be on ALSA? Thank you in advance.

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Re: konqueror
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 19 Nov '20

19 Nov '20

> I'm running minimal packages up to tdebase-14.0.7. What other packages > are needed to open mp3 files and read meta data. > > The base packages are running on a Manjaro system, don't want fancy, > just hate thunar > ____________________________________________________ install anything related to mp3, also mediainfo. Do a search of your package manager and search for... mp3 (there's lots) audio media info meta info trinity-multimedia easytag is another and the like. Good luck, Kate

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konqueror
by Dave 19 Nov '20

19 Nov '20

I'm running minimal packages up to tdebase-14.0.7. What other packages are needed to open mp3 files and read meta data. The base packages are running on a Manjaro system, don't want fancy, just hate thunar

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squawk about kmail fwding an email
by Gene Heskett 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

Greetings all; I don't often fwd a message by any kmail method, but with the recent election and the demonrat hijinks that gave it to Joe, I wanted to fwd a message from the local libertarian mailing list to another friend. But SA has been putting this is spam headers on those messages and I found that kmail, when it fwd's a msg so labeled, forwards only the sa header, not the whole maryann as I intended. The msg itself is not forwarded. Can this bug be addressed? Or do I have something in my config fubared? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Fwd: WE CAUGHT THEM! Part 2: Email Inventor Dr. Shiva Finds SAME IMPOSSIBLE BALLOT RATIO Feature in Michigan Results – WE CAUGHT THEM!
by Gene Heskett 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

This is an inline ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: WE CAUGHT THEM! Part 2: Email Inventor Dr. Shiva Finds SAME IMPOSSIBLE BALLOT RATIO Feature in Michigan Results – WE CAUGHT THEM! Date: Monday 16 November 2020, 05:32:15 From: Karl Swisher <k_swisher(a)shentel.net> To: Gene Heskett <gheskett(a)shentel.net>, Kenny Allman <kallman(a)cebridge.net>, JIM LITTON <smknhoot(a)yahoo.com>, Glenn Cary <skyraven13(a)gmail.com>, Jim Hines <lacojim(a)gmail.com>, Allen Rhodes <arhodes(a)3wlogic.net>, Arin Dickson <hungrylikethewolf_08(a)yahoo.com>, Justin Williams <justinmatthewwilliams(a)gmail.com>, Tim Waugh <timwaugh3(a)gmail.com>, Allen Butcher <butcherthr(a)msn.com>, Kennis Baker <kennisb(a)msn.com>, Steve Allison <freetekg(a)gmail.com>, Kim Monday <kimmondaymonday(a)gmail.com>, Michael Watkins <msw26(a)yahoo.com>, Alan Westfall <awwl09(a)yahoo.com>, Dave Compton <dcompton526(a)gmail.com> Spam detection software, running on the system "coyote.coyote.den", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: WE CAUGHT THEM! Part 2: Email Inventor Dr. Shiva Finds SAME IMPOSSIBLE BALLOT RATIO Feature in Michigan Results â WE CAUGHT THEM! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/caught-part-2-email-invento [...] Content analysis details: (6.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 0.0 NO_DNS_FOR_FROM DNS: Envelope sender has no MX or A DNS records 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 LOTS_OF_MONEY Huge... sums of money 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 2.3 FSL_HELO_BARE_IP_1 No description available. 0.0 T_MONEY_PERCENT X% of a lot of money for you 0.0 HELO_MISC_IP Looking for more Dynamic IP Relays 2.5 MONEY_FRAUD_3 Lots of money and several fraud phrases ------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Off Topic! No online audio with Trinity Ubuntu 20.04 Image Off Topic!
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:20:06 +0800 > Michele Calgaro via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Michele, > > > > > > You are correct, Pulse Audio isn't included in the Ubuntu image. > > > > > > Once I installed Pulse Audio into RAM from Synaptic, there was > > > still no audio from Firefox. When I exited Kmix and re-launched it, > > > Pulse Audio wasn't even listed as an option for it. > > > > Hi Edward, > > usually after restarting kmix, you should have two mixer to choose > > from, alsa and PA. Are you sure PA is running? > > > > Cheers > > Michele > > If it wasn't, I don't know why. But I have since decided to keep > Community PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this desktop as well. I > don't mind having it installed on two desktops. > > It works and it's a refreshing change from the previous distro. :) > > ____________________________________________________ You have been assimilated. Your pool pass to the Borg Collective swiming pool will be mailed to you in 6 to 8 weeks. Kate

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Re: No online audio with Trinity Ubuntu 20.04 Image
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:13:09 -0500 > "BorgLabs - Kate Draven" <borglabs4(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I can only speak to installed OSes and don't know much about ubuntus. > > However, I don't think you'll find these, by default, on any ubuntu > > live cds. > > > > The PA volume control of your choice, should auto start like kmix. > > I don't know about ubuntu, so you'll have to see what's available. > > I have pavucontrol/pavucontrol-qt, PNMixer, and Pulseaudio System > > Tray (the one I use). Use one of them to shunt the output to your > > device of choice. > > > > IE > > Internal audio card, hdmi video card with audio support, bluetooth > > spearker/headset etc. Experiment with each output until you have > > sound. > > > > I'm sure others will pop in with clear, better suggestions. So > > experiment until them. You can't hurt anything. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Kate > > After trying other LiveCD/DVD's, I've decided to keep Community > PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this system as well (have it installed > on two). It works to my satisfaction, boots up in a fraction of the time > that the previously-installed Linux distribution did and I'm happy with > it. :) > > I may also have solved the issue where the startup sound wasn't playing > at each system boot-up. I went into Trinity Control Center/Sound & > Multimedia/Sound System and changed the Skip Prevention Sound > Buffer setting from the default 232 milliseconds to 417 milliseconds. So > far, at every boot-up (warm or cold), the startup sound has played each > time. I have it set to 417 on both systems now. > ____________________________________________________ I'm glad this is working out for you. Please don't hesitate if you have any other questions or problems. I'll do what I can and, as you can see, so will everyone else. We have a great group here. Kate

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Avengers Assemble - update
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

Another card I'm looking at is the Creative Labs Sound Blaster AE-9 PCIe https://www.microcenter.com/product/610437/creative-labs-sound-blaster-ae-9… Although, as far as I can tell, has no linux support but I could be wrong. Thanks again Kate

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MediaWiki, CategoryTree not enabled by default?
by Michael 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

Hi Slávek (or anyone else who admin’s the Wiki), I’m trying to add the category list as displayed on: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Special:Categories to the bottom of the main wiki page: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment MediaWiki says CategoryTree is suppose to be able to do something like that and also is suppose to be enabled by default: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension%3aCategoryTree But, it’s not enabled?, or I’m typo’ing the examples? I could possibly do it manually, but then it’d get out of date. Would you know a way to accomplish this? Basically trying to embed the full top level category list into the bottom of main page, so there is some navigation for users. Best, Michael

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ksensors outputs no data
by Felix Miata 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

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Restructuring of main modules in TGW has been completed
by Michele Calgaro 15 Nov '20

15 Nov '20

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to the TDE announcements ML and use their own copy of the TDE source code, please take note of this message about the completion of the restructuring of main modules in TGW: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers Michele

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More unsigned packages
by Rick Ellis 15 Nov '20

15 Nov '20

While trying to upgrade to Fedora 33: Package trinity-tdepacman-0.3.2-14.0.9_1.fc33.x86_64.rpm is not signed Package trinity-desktop-14.0.9-1.fc33.noarch.rpm is not signed Package trinity-desktop-all-14.0.9-1.fc33.noarch.rpm is not signed Package trinity-desktop-applications-14.0.9-1.fc33.noarch.rpm is not signed Package trinity-desktop-devel-14.0.9-1.fc33.noarch.rpm is not signed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Kmail : no mails received from Gmail
by ajh-valmer 14 Nov '20

14 Nov '20

Hello, I have a Gmail.com account mail. It works quite well with Webmail, but no, with Kmail. I don't receive any mails (POP). (login and password are OK). If I choose to receive only mails from Gmail, I receive : "login or password error". If I choose to receive globally all the mails from others providers, also Gmail, no mails are received from Gmail and with no error message. Bug with Kmail or with Gmail ? Thanks André --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Bug on scroll
by Christian Schmitz 14 Nov '20

14 Nov '20

Hi Everyone: I am having a strange issue. With firefox and openoffice. The mouse wheel DONT WORK this ocurr a little random but specially after change desktop or make click on lower panel of TDE. If i do click on any point of window and after that i press CTRL+tab then mouse wheel start to work. I make a small video, and i can attach to who need it. Is in low quality to take fewer bytes. I think that are a problem with focus pasing from TDE to program, but is only my idea. Best Regads. Christian -- Be Free, Be Linux --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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VNC + TDE + keyboard problem
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 14 Nov '20

14 Nov '20

I don't know if this is a TDE issue or not, but it's kind of strange: vncviewer translates local keyboard (german) to a stipped down version of an english keyboard, translates that to soem scancodes and sends these to the vnc server. Notably it translates "z" to "y", "forgets" german umlauts etc., but whhen I set the OS at the vnc server side to "english" it partly remaps the scancodes to keys e.g. "z" is "z" and "y" is "y", but still umlauts are missing. Has anybody a great idea what to do in this case? HJow do I get the correct scancodes sent to the server? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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How to check if TDE is the currently running desktop?
by Michael 13 Nov '20

13 Nov '20

Hi All, I’d like to add a <preuninstall> to the tde.pm that checks to see if TDE is the currently running desktop. On the theory it’d suck if someone un-installed a desktop while in that desktop... Would one of the TDE dev’s be so kind as to point me in the right direction on how to do that (the uninstall process runs as sudo)? Thank you, Michael

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Re: Bluetooth Headphone Microphone
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 13 Nov '20

13 Nov '20

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 21:00:06 -0500 > "BorgLabs - Kate Draven" <borglabs4(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Human, > > > > Do you have blueman-manager installed and PulseAudio System Tray. > > If not, install them. > > > > 1. Connect your headset, as such. > > 2. Launch PulseAudio System Tray > > 3. Click on the little grey speaker and click volume control. > > 4. Go to configuration, > > 5. Go to your device, for example mine is Insignia NS etc etc. > > It's likely you will find a choice between hi fedelity > > playback and headset head unit HFP/HSP. Choose the headset. > > 6. To test, launch Audacity and start recording. > > 7. Send me lots 0 chocolate. > > > > Let me know if this works for you. > > > > Kate > > blueman-manager is installed. The system tray has Kmix in it. > > HSP/HFP is accessible with certain headphones, once the ofono package > is installed and after a system reboot. Although the microphone works, > the audio is somewhat subdued. After testing several Bluetooth headsets, > I have two that will work. > > ____________________________________________________ Do you have PulseAudio System Tray? That gives you complete control over pulseaudio, which is what the headset will use with bluetooth. I'm glad you have something working. Kate

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Bug on scroll
by Christian Schmitz 13 Nov '20

13 Nov '20

Hi Everyone: I am having a strange issue. With firefox and openoffice. The mouse wheel DONT WORK this ocurr a little random but specially after change desktop or make click on lower panel of TDE. If i do click on any point of window and after that i press CTRL+tab then mouse wheel start to work. I make a small video, is in low quality to take fewer bytes. Sadly is take the phone inverted, but you can see the proble very well. I think that are a problem with focus pasing from TDE to program, but is only my idea. Best Regads. Christian -- Be Free, Be Linux --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 13 Nov '20

13 Nov '20

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:15 +0100 > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote: > > > You can print on any printer, but for zeroconf aka "magicly see the > > other printers on the net" you need "avahi" - which I ended up > > removing fom any devices, 'cause it screws up routing tables when you > > happen to be in the same as a silvery rotton tomato laptop. > > > > Nik > > In all the years I've used Linux, the only time I could access a remote > printer from another PC, was when the printer was wireless. > > Seeing CUPS accessing a printer USB-connected to the other PC, that was > definitely a first for me. :) > > ____________________________________________________ We have been using the share printer function for years. Go to localhost:631 and go to manage printers in admin. It's buried somewhere, in there, an option to share the printer. Kate

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Re: Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 13 Nov '20

13 Nov '20

> Anno domini 2020 Thu, 12 Nov 11:34:43 -0500 > Gene Heskett via tde-users scripsit: > > On Thursday 12 November 2020 11:10:11 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:15 +0100 > > > > > > > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote: > > > > > You can print on any printer, but for zeroconf aka "magicly see > > > > > the other printers on the net" you need "avahi" - which I ended up > > > > > removing fom any devices, 'cause it screws up routing tables when > > > > > you happen to be in the same as a silvery rotton tomato laptop. > > > > > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > > > In all the years I've used Linux, the only time I could access a > > > > remote printer from another PC, was when the printer was wireless. > > > > > > > > Seeing CUPS accessing a printer USB-connected to the other PC, that > > > > was definitely a first for me. :) > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > We have been using the share printer function for years. > > > Go to localhost:631 and go to manage printers in admin. > > > It's buried somewhere, in there, an option to share the printer. > > > > > > Kate > > That's half of it Kate, the cups installed on the clients needs to > > have "browser" enabled. Once that's done you can keep the chainsaws > > busy. Until you run out of ink or toner. > > Oh my ... that's the reason why I set up a "drop stuff here" folder on the only computer that's connected to a printer. Whenever I drop a file into it, it gets printed and deleted. > > Nik > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > -- Oh that's interesting. Never used that. Kate

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Re: Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 13 Nov '20

13 Nov '20

> On Thursday 12 November 2020 11:10:11 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:15 +0100 > > > > > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote: > > > > You can print on any printer, but for zeroconf aka "magicly see > > > > the other printers on the net" you need "avahi" - which I ended up > > > > removing fom any devices, 'cause it screws up routing tables when > > > > you happen to be in the same as a silvery rotton tomato laptop. > > > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > In all the years I've used Linux, the only time I could access a > > > remote printer from another PC, was when the printer was wireless. > > > > > > Seeing CUPS accessing a printer USB-connected to the other PC, that > > > was definitely a first for me. :) > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > We have been using the share printer function for years. > > Go to localhost:631 and go to manage printers in admin. > > It's buried somewhere, in there, an option to share the printer. > > > > Kate > That's half of it Kate, the cups installed on the clients needs to > have "browser" enabled. Once that's done you can keep the chainsaws > busy. Until you run out of ink or toner. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- Well spotted. I never run out of it. I have ALL the ink in the world! Kate

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Wiki file tde.pm updated for MX/TDE Installation
by Michael 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

Hi All, I just updated the TDE ‘automagic’ install file for MX Linux on our wiki based on additions made by the MX dev’s. MX Linux Trinity Repository Installation Instructions https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_In… Change Log: - Added extra code to handle interactive needs. - Added more wrappers to handle debconf, pkexec, and update-grub. - The default x-session-manager will now be set/default to trinity-desktop. - - Full details: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=60417 I tested it fairly extensively, if you have issues, please notify me. Best, Michael

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Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by Edward 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

I installed the PCLinuxOS Trinity Mini image to my second desktop today. Iniitially, the printer was working. When I tried to use the HP Device Manager, once the printer was added to it, it stopped working. The Control Center showed the printer was 'stopped'. The printer is an HP OfficeJet 3830. I was able to get the printer to work again by adding it a second time in the Control Center, but using a different name for it. Then, when I attempted to remove the original printer (in Administrator Mode), the original printer will disappear from the listing once 'Remove' is selected, then about 5 or 10 seconds later, it reappears in the list by itself. I have attempted three additional times in reinstalling the OS from scratch. But after each reinstall and reboot, once logged in, I went to the Printers section and the printer was still listed. On this third reinstall, the printer was physically disconnected from the computer during the re-installation of the OS, no power, no USB. Please understand that this has become frustrating. Some questions: 1. Once in Administrator Mode, why does the printer reappear by itself again, once removed? 2. Why after a fresh, new reinstall of the OS, complete with partitioning of the hard drive (?), does the printer still appear on the Printers screen when it's physically disconnected, once the system comes up after the initial reboot? If no printers are connected, it should not be showing any printers. In fact, the printer status showed: 'Idle (accepting jobs)'. I am going to attempt a fourth reinstall of the OS, but will be using Gparted to format the hard drive, prior to this re-installation.

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kworker using a lot of CPU
by Dan Youngquist 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

Hi all, Fresh installation of MX 19.2 (Debian 10) and TDE 14.0.9. There's a process called "kworker/0:3-events" that continually uses 30% CPU. Maybe 3 times a minute it changes to "kworker/0:3+events_freezable" for several seconds. It isn't there in XFCE; but if you start TDE, then logout and login to XFCE, it is there and continues. Any ideas what this is and how I can make it stop? -- PGP key: http://homestead-products.com/pubkey.htm

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machines spying on us - NEW thread!
by William Morder 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

It occurs to me that this thread is starting to go off-topic, but I am also curious to know what might happen. Thus the new thread ... On Wednesday 11 November 2020 08:50:33 Michael via tde-users wrote: > What went wrong? Do you remember the time when computers > > > > were a tool to help you, not to spy on you? > > > > > > Nik > > > > Yes, one can read about such a computer here: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus > > Funny story (not), > > I was working at Dell at the time when Windows 95 was beta released (mid > ‘94 ish). The network group (being real IT geeks) did some ‘testing’ > (using the pre-cursor to wireshark) and found that if the Win95 install had > network access then Win95 1) did a full disk scan, 2) packaged that up and > sent it to a Microsoft server, and 3) deleted all traces of the disk scan. > > Why I remember it, is it amused me that they were in their lab yanking the > plug out of the wall half way through an install then sticking the drive > into another PC (Unix!) to see what Win95 was doing. > > So, probably, the last time Windows didn’t ‘spy on you’ was probably Win > 3.1. Only because it couldn't. > > Best, > Michael As soon as they could be connected, either through a network, or through "sneaker-net", or sharing information between them, that is about when they because surveillance tools. About the only way to escape them is to go back to the Stone Age and make our own tools. I got into a conversation awhile ago when somebody described Orwell as a futurist. No, I said, he was very bad at guessing about the technological side of the future; but what he did guess was that those new "computing machines" that were used in the "war effort" would soon be used for controlling citizens rather than fighting an external enemy. Orwell worked writing and broadcasting for the BBC during the war years (which he called propaganda), and had an insider's glimpse of what was in store for us in the future; the future which is now. Bill

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Restructuring of main modules in TGW
by Michele Calgaro 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to the TDE announcements ML and use their own copy of the TDE source code, please take note of this message: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers Michele

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Re: pmount vs. udisks2
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

> Hi all! > > Is it just me or can sombody else replicate this behaviour: > > 1) pmount installed, udisks2 not installed: I get the "device inserted .."-dialog, but the device icons do not show up. Mounting and unmounting works. After removing all external devicis I still have /media/ populated with "interesting" folders, each containing one file ".creaded_by_pmount". Zhese survive a reboot, so I have to remove them by hand. > > 2) udisks2 is installed, pmount not instaled: I get the "device inserted .."-dialog, and all device icons as expected. Mounting and unmounting works. /media/ is working as expected, i.e. folders disappear when the device is removed. > > So ... save to say "install udisks2 and forget aboult pmount" ? pmount i used in exegnulinux, that's why I ran into it. > > Nik > > > -- Hi Nik I don't use pmount, so I can't speak to its behavior. udisk2, as you described, is how it works for me. udisk2, at least for me, works perfectly. However, I would wait for the remaining collective to speak. We might just learn something. Cheers, Kate

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Re: d.moat Best Home Network Security And Home Firewall Device
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

> On Tuesday 10 November 2020 06:48:00 amlidajame25(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Another commercial that has zero to do with trinity. nuke this sub. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > ____________________________________________________ Aye captain! Kate

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d.moat Best Home Network Security And Home Firewall Device
by amlidajame25＠gmail.com 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

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QTcurve & Dark themes
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

Just a quick note to all dark theme lovers out ther: whoever has problems with invisible checkmarks and sliders (like myself) should take a look at "tde-style-qtcurve-trinity" :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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TDE screenshot for upcoming release
by Michele Calgaro 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

Hi everyone, R14.0.9 will be out very soon. I know it is a bit late for asking, but if any of you is willing to send through some screenshots of their desktop, we may include them in the release notes. Thanks in advance! Cheers Michele

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Survey: distros with KDE?
by Steven D'Aprano 09 Nov '20

09 Nov '20

Hi all, I'm currently running Fedore 29, but I will soon need to upgrade or reinstall a new distro. I'd like something with TDE available. Can we do a short survey of: - which distro you are running - whether it provides TDe from the official repos; - and whether you had trouble installing and running TDE. Thanks in advance. Steve

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Are you interested in arm64/armhf packates for Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy)?
by Slávek Banko 08 Nov '20

08 Nov '20

Hi, are there users among you who use Ubuntu and RPi? Because Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy) mentions RPi4 in the release notes, I noticed an interest in arm64 and armhf packages for Groovy. Currently, we have built only armhf packages only for LTS versions of Ubuntu. That's why I'm now deciding whether to build arm64 and armhf packages for Groovy as well. Are there anyone else who would welcome such packages? Cheers -- Slávek

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What happened to kdocp, the GUI dcop browser?!
by Stefan Krusche 08 Nov '20

08 Nov '20

Hi, sometime there was a GUI program called kdocp to browse the dcop objects tree. I can't find it neither in the repository (apt/devuan) nor on my system. Does anybody know where or how to find it? Thanks and kind regards, Stefan

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soundkonverter-trinity - installed but will not run?
by William Morder 08 Nov '20

08 Nov '20

Just wondering if anybody else has had problems with soundkonverter-trinity. I installed the package and dependencies, and when I try to reinstall or upgrade, both apt and aptitude tell me that it's already installed, and the most recent version, etc. But when I try to run the program, I get an error message (see attachment for screenshot). TDEinit could not launch 'soundkonverter-trinity', could not find the executable. In the meanwhile, I've been using soundconverter, which is adequate for the moment, but not what I want for regular use. TDE's soundkonverter-trinity offers so many more options for fine adjustments, and sound quality is very important to me, as music is my side hustle. ;-) This is the only problem I've been having with TDE at the moment. By the way, I am running Devuan Beowulf, and just ran upgrade, but I am told that everything is current. I would appreciate any help or suggestions here, as I use this program a lot. Bill

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Re: Survey: distros with KDE?
by midi-pascal 07 Nov '20

07 Nov '20

On 2020-11-07 12:34 a.m., Steven D'Aprano via tde-users wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently running Fedore 29, but I will soon need to upgrade or > reinstall a new distro. I'd like something with TDE available. > > Can we do a short survey of: > > - which distro you are running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS > > - whether it provides TDe from the official repos; No > > - and whether you had trouble installing and running TDE. Never: I have always installed from the TDE Live CD Image. It simply works, no trouble! > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Steve > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…

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Strange audio problem
by deloptes 07 Nov '20

07 Nov '20

Hi, I encountered a strange audio problem. I and a peer have skype installed and use TDE. On my PC call audio notification (the ringing) is audiable after restart and login. On the peers PC the audio notification (the ringing) is not audiable after restart and login. It turns out there skype starts from the session after pulseaudio and does not produce any sound, because it registers on ALSA something. Stop and start skype makes notifications work again. Where and how is that order stored and can be setup? thanks in advance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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pmount vs. udisks2
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 07 Nov '20

07 Nov '20

Hi all! Is it just me or can sombody else replicate this behaviour: 1) pmount installed, udisks2 not installed: I get the "device inserted .."-dialog, but the device icons do not show up. Mounting and unmounting works. After removing all external devicis I still have /media/ populated with "interesting" folders, each containing one file ".creaded_by_pmount". Zhese survive a reboot, so I have to remove them by hand. 2) udisks2 is installed, pmount not instaled: I get the "device inserted .."-dialog, and all device icons as expected. Mounting and unmounting works. /media/ is working as expected, i.e. folders disappear when the device is removed. So ... save to say "install udisks2 and forget aboult pmount" ? pmount i used in exegnulinux, that's why I ran into it. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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TDE R14.0.9 released, new target R14.0.10 will start soon...
by Slávek Banko 05 Nov '20

05 Nov '20

Hi all, now, after the release of R14.0.9, we are going to open a window to work on R14.0.10. There are already several pull-requests waiting to be merged. And also our translators do not stop translating, when the translations will also be merged into the upcoming release. If you used the Preliminary Stable Builds repository only temporarily, and you prefer to stick on the official final release, it is now the best time to switch to the official repository. The packages in both repositories will be identical for some time, so it is smooth to change the apt source if you want. Otherwise, we will be very happy if you help us in testing the upcoming release. I intend to begin building R14.0.10 preliminary packages on November 8th. Thank you for your attention :) Cheers -- Slávek

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Unsigned RPMs
by Rick Ellis 04 Nov '20

04 Nov '20

Just tried updating my Fedora desktop. It fails on all the Trinity RPMs because they aren't signed. Am I missing something?

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TDEInit cannot launch [xyz]
by Michael 04 Nov '20

04 Nov '20

This started a week or two ago it seems, definitely before 14.0.9. I do remember getting something very occasionally that was similar, but a logout/login would clear it up. Now it’s happening every time I launch KMail. Click KMail button in panel: “nice -n 2 kmail -caption "%c" %i %m” :Pop-Up: Sorry - Kicker TDEInit cannot launch ‘nice’. But KMail is nice’d and seem to be working the same as always. michael@local [~]# pss kmail NI TIME SZ COMMAND 2 00:00:40 215388 kmail -caption KMail -icon kmail -miniicon kmail Any thoughts? Best, Michael

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Re: TDE R14.0.9 released, new target R14.0.10 will start soon...
by midi-pascal 04 Nov '20

04 Nov '20

On 2020-11-04 10:42 a.m., gregory guy via tde-users wrote: >> * add pinentry-tqt > from https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2830#c7 > > unfortunately the git repo is not available anymore: > > git clone git://git.incenp.org/pinentry.git pinentry-tqt > Cloning into 'pinentry-tqt'... > fatal: unable to connect to git.incenp.org: > git.incenp.org[0: 51.254.143.22]: errno=Connection timed out > git.incenp.org[1: 2001:41d0:302:2000::43d4]: errno=Network is unreachable > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… Hi, Is this what you are looking for? https://github.com/gpg/pinentry

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User fieldengineer59 banned!
by Slávek Banko 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Hi, FYI, because fieldengineer59 honored us with more than one spam in both mailing lists, he became the first to be banned - congratulations! Cheers -- Slávek

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KolourPicker package name (deb)?
by Michael 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

So I saw TDE has a colour picker, named KolourPicker *, but I can't seem to find what package it's in. Distribution: MX-19, non-systemd [Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)] Would someone know even a partial package name so I can track it down? Or maybe a better search tool? I admit I just throw 'stuff' at the search variations I happen to know... Thanks, Michael * Chapter 2 of the TDE Help Center. Ref: KolourPicker The Kicker plugin “Kolourpicker” currently has no documentation. Tried: michael@local [~/common]# apt-cache search KolourPicker michael@local [~/common]# axi-cache search KolourPicker 0 results found. Did you mean: colourpicker ? michael@local [~/common]# apt-cache search colourpicker r-cran-colourpicker - GNU R colour picker tool for selecting colours in plots michael@local [~/common]# apt-cache --full search KolourPicker michael@local [~/common]# apt-cache --full search kolourpicker michael@local [~/common]# which kolourpicker michael@local [~/common]# which KolourPicker

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Updated testimage
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Hi all! I've updated my exegnu-remaster wit TDE 14.0.9 and added Arduio. Feel free to test :) ISO: https://github.com/zwieblum/devuan-images/releases/download/2020.11.02/snap… SHA256: https://github.com/zwieblum/devuan-images/releases/download/2020.11.02/snap… Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Some TDE Toys missing?
by Michael 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Somewhat just playing at this point, but I also saw KWeather and wanted to see what it did. But, while tdetoys-trinity is installed, most of its apps aren't? I can't see that I'd have ever manually remove any of the ones not showing up. (Besides that'd uninstall tdetoys, yes?) Do these just no longer exist? If it's relevant: - This system was built with a clean install last July, MX19/TDE 14.0.8 - I just upgraded TDE to 14.0.9 this morning Best, Michael The ones that resolve by 'which' below are the only ones in my Toys menu as well. {snipping stuff} michael@local [~/common]# aptitude show tdetoys-trinity Package: tdetoys-trinity Version: 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0 State: installed Automatically installed: yes Depends: amor-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), eyesapplet-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), fifteenapplet-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kmoon-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kodo-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kteatime-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), ktux-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kweather-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kworldclock-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0) michael@local [~/common]# which kworldclock /opt/trinity/bin/kworldclock michael@local [~/common]# which kweather michael@local [~/common]# which fifteenapplet michael@local [~/common]# which kmoon michael@local [~/common]# which amor /opt/trinity/bin/amor michael@local [~/common]# which eyesapplet michael@local [~/common]# which kodo /opt/trinity/bin/kodo michael@local [~/common]# which kteatime /opt/trinity/bin/kteatime

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Freelance Cloud Architect
by mjgoud424＠gmail.com 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

A Cloud Architect is an IT specialist who is responsible for deploying overseeing a company's cloud computing strategy. This includes cloud adoption plans, cloud application design, and cloud management and monitoring. https://www.fieldengineer.com/c1/hire-freelance-cloud-architect

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Telecom Project Manager
by shyamcj333＠gmail.com 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Telecom Project manager</a> in the telecom space are the people in charge of a specific project or projects within a telecom business. As a project manager, their responsibilities are to plan, budget, manage and document all stages of a certain project. Telecom Project Managers are accountable for coordinating telecommunication systems installation projects for multiple businesses across the various platforms. https://www.fieldengineer.com/skills/telecom-project-manager

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What is a network engineer?
by kotifield＠gmail.com 02 Nov '20

02 Nov '20

What is a network engineer? This is someone who you may also hear referred to as a computer network architect. Network engineer requirements include essential skills in the design, planning, implementation and monitoring a computer network that supports wireless network services, video, data, and voice. This is a high-level profession. There are a lot of different types of networks that someone in this role can work with. Some examples include VoIP, which is Voice Over Internet Protocol Network, DAN - Desk Area Network, PEN - Personal Area Network, WLAN, which is Wireless Local Area Network, and LAN, which is Local Area Network. https://www.fieldengineer.com/skills/what-is-a-network-engineer

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New York tech startups
by fieldengineer59＠yahoo.com 02 Nov '20

02 Nov '20

New York tech startups A report compiled by Paul Tostevin, Associate Director of Savills in London, showed that, in terms of business and technological environment, bustle of the city, talent groups, real estate costs and mobility, New York has become the leading technological city of world, surpassing San Francisco. https://www.fieldengineer.com/blogs/new-york-tech-city-enables-startups-pro…

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integration into source-based distributions?
by Abe 01 Nov '20

01 Nov '20

Hi all. To make the long story short: I inspected <https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Category:Documentation>, and I did not find anything about integration into source-based distributions [e.g. Funtoo and Gentoo]. Does TDE yet have integration into source-based distributions, preferably in an up-to-date fashion [e.g. TDE 14.x is integrated into <current/latest major release>.x of some distro]? If yes, and you know about it, then please both reply to my email and update the TDE documentation. Regards, Abe

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TDE R14.0.9 release is here!
by Slávek Banko 01 Nov '20

01 Nov '20

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about the release of R14.0.9: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.9 Cheers -- Slávek

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Re: [users] old spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 31 Oct '20

31 Oct '20

> On 2020-10-29 18:09:37 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > I use filters to catch "OT" and put them into an OT directory in kmail. > > I can them go over them at will (or delete). > > > > No problems > > > > Cheers back, > > > > Kate > > Which works, but just for posts where someone has had the foresight to insert > [OT] into the subject line. > > Leslie > -- True

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[OT] Spam
by Michael 31 Oct '20

31 Oct '20

S'Okay, we all know spam exists, and any list is going to get some... I'm also pretty sure the mods of our list delete the spammer's account immediately. So? Please? Can we agree to just delete what does get through? Best All, Michael

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Fwd: alt-tab behavior driving me nuts: switcher only shows other windows that are on the *_same screen_*
by Abe 30 Oct '20

30 Oct '20

[sorry if the below has messed-up formatting; I sent it a few days ago, but apparently the list software rejected it — without even so much as a bounce :-( — b/c I was not yet a subscriber to the list] Hello folks. First off: I _love_ TDE for keeping KDE 3.x alive. ;-) Recently, the alt-tab behavior on one of my GNU/Linux boxes has been driving me nuts: when I press alt-tab, the switcher only shows other windows that are on the *_same screen_* as the one that was active/current/front at the time I pressed alt-tab. With windows spread across two screens, this is _very_ annoying. I tried to find a way to configure this, but I did not find one. [EDIT: please read all the way to the bottom of this e-mail for additional details that I found while writing this email but _way_ after writing _this_ paragraph up to the "EDIT" marker.] Current setup on the machine in question: Debian 7.11, TDE 3.5.13.2, one video card installed, nVidia PCI-Express video card with 4 heads possible [only 2 in use], GPU seems to be an "NVS 510", nVidia proprietary driver 450.57; two monitors, both "technically" 1600x1200 ["technically" b/c one of them is "rotated", so it "looks like" 1200x1600], only 1 desktop, and Xinerama & RandR are both off according to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log". The motherboard has a VGA port on it, but I must have disabled the relevant on-board chip in the BIOS settings [or did the BIOS disable that chip by itself based on the fact that I have a video card installed and selected as "primary"?] since it`s not showing up in "lspci"`s output. From the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" program: * Server Version Number: 11.0 * Server Vendor String: The X.Org Foundation * Server Vendor Version: 1.12.4 (11204000) * NV-CONTROL Version: 1.29 * Screens: 1 From "lspci -v": 09:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0ffd (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0967 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27 Memory at c2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at 1000 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?> Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?> Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?> Kernel driver in use: nvidia Other "trivia": 4.13.16 self-configured kernel. PS/2 keyboard and "mouse" [trackball, really ;-)]. "Stop the presses!" ;-) : look what I found in my "~/.trinity/share/config/kwinrc" while searching through "~/.trinity/": [TabBox] TraverseAll=false ... however, when I edited that to "TraverseAll=true" and logged out and then back in [to TDE], alt-tab _still_ behaved as before. :-( I checked that the edit wasn`t overwritten, and it wasn`t. Also found in the same file, in the "[Windows]" section: AltTabStyle=KDE Should I be messing with _that_ somehow? Also: how/where should I find these settings in a GUI context? They don`t seem to be available in KControl. OK, hold on... I think I found them, in "Desktop"::"Window Behavior"::"Focus", under the section heading "Navigation". I tried turning "Traverse windows on all desktops" off, hitting "Apply", then turning it back on again and "Apply" again, but it did _not_ seem to help. :-( "The plot _thickens_!" When I switch off "Show window list while switching windows" [in "Desktop"::"Window Behavior"::"Focus", under the section heading "Navigation"], I get the following changes: * my "~/.trinity/share/config/kwinrc" now has "AltTabStyle=CDE" instead of "AltTabStyle=KDE" * alt-tab _does_ traverse windows on both screens -- but, of course, does not show visual feedback for the switcher I searched for something relevant in the Bugzilla, but I found nothing that was an exact match. I _did_ find the following, which I`m including here... #1, for "completeness", and #2, to _prove_ that I really _did_ search the Bugzilla before emailing to the list. ;-) * https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1787 * " Include minimized system tray apps in Alt+Tab switching" How can I [at least try to] solve this problem? I _want_ the KDE-style switcher [with visual feedback], not the CDE-style "silent" and/or "invisible" one, but I _also_ want _all_ windows [or at least as many as possible, given bug #1787] from _all_ screens to be included in the switcher`s list and keyboard-selection choices. Suggestions, anybody? Regards, Abe

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Re: [trinity-users] MTP again
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > I get this msg too. I use Android File Transfer and, sometimes, gmtp. > > Konq was better but suddenly stopped working. For now, the above should > > help. > > > > Kate > > I also think it was working before. > Kate, what version of TDE are you using? > --------------------------------------------------------------------- R14.0.8

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pixel density from ksnapshot
by Jim 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

I was wondering if someone who has Image Magick installed and is running a newer TDE than 14.0.5 would do an experiment for me... If you create a PNG file (say, a.png) with ksnapshot, what does identify -units PixelsPerInch -format '%x,%y\n' a.png output? Thanks. Jim

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Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:59:24PM +0100, deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > > And regarding unsubscribing - everybody is free to subscribe and > > unsubscribe. There is no need to put it on the wall. > > How will we know how many potential TDE users we are driving away if > they don't tell us? > > > > And what does working at the university has to do with the TDE user list, I > > also do not understand. > > The context was being told that this mailing list is like having a job: > it's about the social chit-chat. (That doesn't sound much like the jobs > I've had. I guess some people are lucky enough to get paid to stand > around the water-cooler and gossip all day long, but most people have to > actually work.) > > > > @Janek - free your mind and enjoy the "stupidity" of day-to-day life. > > You know nothing about Janek, and you're telling him how he needs to fix > his life? Astonishing. I'm offended and that wasn't even aimed at me. > > > > The thing I enjoy more are the life stories of people I > > know. > > If you like that, you will LOVE Facebook and Twitter and other social > media. > > > -- > Steve > ____________________________________________________ OK ENOUGH. It's over. This thread is dead. I'm sorry I ever brought it up. I can't believe the snowflakery. It's over. Enough. Kate

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Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 28 Oct 22:05:50 -0400 > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit: > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:59:24PM +0100, deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > > > > > > And regarding unsubscribing - everybody is free to subscribe and > > > > unsubscribe. There is no need to put it on the wall. > > > > > > How will we know how many potential TDE users we are driving away if > > > they don't tell us? > > > > > > > > > > And what does working at the university has to do with the TDE user list, > > I > > > > also do not understand. > > > > > > The context was being told that this mailing list is like having a job: > > > it's about the social chit-chat. (That doesn't sound much like the jobs > > > I've had. I guess some people are lucky enough to get paid to stand > > > around the water-cooler and gossip all day long, but most people have to > > > actually work.) > > > > > > > > > > @Janek - free your mind and enjoy the "stupidity" of day-to-day life. > > > > > > You know nothing about Janek, and you're telling him how he needs to fix > > > his life? Astonishing. I'm offended and that wasn't even aimed at me. > > > > > > > > > > The thing I enjoy more are the life stories of people I > > > > know. > > > > > > If you like that, you will LOVE Facebook and Twitter and other social > > > media. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Steve > > > ____________________________________________________ > > OK ENOUGH. It's over. > > > > This thread is dead. > > > > I'm sorry I ever brought it up. > > > > I can't believe the snowflakery. > > > > It's over. Enough. > > Na, sombody has to mention kittens. No thread is dead wthout kitens. So I'd suggest we fork the TDE potatatoman, give him a kitten face and ... oh, where's my cofee? > You're lovely Doc. Kate

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Re: MTP again
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 23:10:41 +0100 > deloptes <deloptes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > William Morder via tde-users wrote: > >=20 > > > Also, do you have developer options enabled? and/or Did you root your > > > phone? > >=20 > > I use Sailfish OS - after using debian based Nokia N9, I could not become= > a > > friend of Android and adopted the evolution of the meego called mer - but > > it is the same in the background (I mean they use the android kernel by > > Sony AOSP and put the Sailfish OS on top. There are also many community > > ports for various makes and models) > >=20 > > What is bothering me is this: > >=20 > > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk > > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:40 2020] usb 2-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 21 > > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 22 > > using ehci-pci > >=20 > > It recognizes as removable this but then it says disconnect 21 and new > > high-spped blah blah 22. > >=20 > > May be I ask in Debian User > > I assume you've already seen https://wiki.debian.org/mtp > > Might be something useful here: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Media_Transfer_Protocol > > or here: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MTP > > If those are no help, I would agree that it's better to ask through the Deb= > ian > channels=E2=80=94this is a general non-TDE Linux question, so few of us are= > going to > be at all knowledgeable. > > E. Liddell > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Liddell I'm going to experiment after reading it through a few times. Cheers, Kate

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MTP again
by deloptes 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

Hi, I am sure it was discussed here in the past, but I could not find it. I attach the phone to USB and select MTP (file transfer), It shows up as camera in konqueror and I can not copy files to the device "Creating folders is not supported with protocol camera.". kernel is 4.19.149 if it matters. In dmesg it says "Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0" but after this "Power-on or device reset occurred" and "USB disconnect, device number 21": [Wed Oct 28 09:26:38 2020] usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [Wed Oct 28 09:26:38 2020] scsi host6: usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0 [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Linux File-CD Gadget 0310 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: Power-on or device reset occurred [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk [Wed Oct 28 09:26:40 2020] usb 2-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 21 [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 22 using ehci-pci [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=05c6, idProduct=0a07, bcdDevice= 3.10 [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: Product: Xperia X [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: Manufacturer: Sony Do you have any idea? I am sure it was working before, but I do not know when ... might be long time ago as I usually copy from the device to the PC. thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: [trinity-users] MTP again
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> On Wednesday 28 October 2020 14:37:40 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 28 Oct 17:30:24 -0400 > > > > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit: > > > > BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > I get this msg too. I use Android File Transfer and, sometimes, gmtp. > > > > > Konq was better but suddenly stopped working. For now, the above > > > > > should help. > > > > > > > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > I also think it was working before. > > > > Kate, what version of TDE are you using? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > R14.0.8 > > > > Could it be that it's not necessarily the TDE version that is causing > > problems but the smartphone? I've never managed to get MTP working on my > > testobject "Samsung Note II + LinageOS". > > > > nik > > A couple years ago, I had to use a smartphone for work; I only recall that it > was a Samsung, I forget what model. Anyway, just connected it to the USB port > of my desktop (running TDE), and it worked, just like an external hard drive, > no mess, no fuss. > > My newer smartphone (another Samsung, somewhere I have the model) doesn't work > like that at all. > > I just looked through developer options, and I notice that under USB > configuration I have several options: charging, MTP, PTP, RNDIS (USB > Ethernet), audio source and MIDI. I wonder if RNDIS could be used? > > Also, do you have developer options enabled? and/or Did you root your phone? > > Bill > ____________________________________________________ I have dev options enabled I did not root the phone. USB Mass storage was removed a long time ago by google. They claim the other ftps are better. They just removed it because it's easier to track data transfers on MS and Apple that way. I had an LG phone with USB MS and it never had a problem. Until it was run over by a pickup truck. It didn't work well after that. 0_o Kate

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Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

> On Wednesday 28 October 2020 17:59:24 deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > > @Janek - free your mind and enjoy the "stupidity" of day-to-day life. > > I think no one here uses facebook or similar. Sometimes I have the > > feeling I am of the younger generation being 47. > > You sir, compared to me, are. About 2 generations. :) But you have a rare > attribute, a goodly dose of common sense. > > > You can enjoy and relax - it is much better than Netflix or whatever > > story you find out there. The thing I enjoy more are the life stories > > of people I know. I was considering extracting all the personal > > postings of Gene and putting them together for his next birthday, but > > I never have time for that :D. > > Thank your favorite $Deity. > > > It is a great story he has to tell and > > I am thankful that no moderator censored that. > > Thanks for the flowers, but the net in general hasn't heard more than 5% > of my BTDT's. If I live long enough you'll probably read more. They > are the education of Gene, who in the official record has an 8th grade > education dated in the 1940's. 3rd time married 31 years in about a > month, to a lady thats about done now, and has a B of A in music > education, she wanted me to at least get a GED so I took it about 25 > years ago. Didn't hear by the time I should have, so since the test > givers $DayJob was at the P.O. I went in to check on it, and his > question to me was "Why are you worried about it, you were just doing it > for the exercise, weren't you?" I had to say yes. I did get it about a > week later. I also have a degree from the University of Hard Knocks. One > of the rules for that is that you can say you've made it on a high > school education or less. More disqualifies you. And your claim to have > made it must be proved by a $100 donation to the student loan fund at > Alderson-Broaddus University in Philippi WV where Dee got her Music > diploma from. And of coarse $35 a head for the graduation dinner and > dance. > > I quit school in '48 to go fix what were then these new-fangled things > called "tv's". There's a hell of a lot of history between then and now. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > ____________________________________________________ Cool... Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

> Steven D'Aprano via tde-users wrote: > > > I think that if this was a brand new group, not just a migration from > > one list to another, we could be a bit stricter about off-topic emails. > > But it's a small community, with not many regular participants. There is > > a lot of institutional knowledge held by the regulars and if the cost of > > keeping them around is to put up with a bit of off-topic discussion and > > their inability to trim pages and pages of quoted text onto the eighth > > or tenth generation "> > > > > > > > > > blah blah blah" then so be it. > > I also enjoy the OT freedom here and in other groups for the simple reason > that discussing with people that have same interest feels better. > > I usually read the headlines and follow the topic until I get bored - this > may happend by the 10th reply by Gene :D. When I don't have time or I am > not interested I just ignore and mark as read. > There is also no way to enforce rules besides the rules that are > established. > > And regarding unsubscribing - everybody is free to subscribe and > unsubscribe. There is no need to put it on the wall. > > And what does working at the university has to do with the TDE user list, I > also do not understand. > I am honestly thankful that I do not work at a university - don't understand > me wrong I have two degrees and most of my friends have also a degree but > in the past 20+some years universities degraded to below zero in some > extent. > > @Janek - free your mind and enjoy the "stupidity" of day-to-day life. I > think no one here uses facebook or similar. Sometimes I have the feeling I > am of the younger generation being 47. > You can enjoy and relax - it is much better than Netflix or whatever story > you find out there. The thing I enjoy more are the life stories of people I > know. I was considering extracting all the personal postings of Gene and > putting them together for his next birthday, but I never have time for > that :D. It is a great story he has to tell and I am thankful that no > moderator censored that. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven D'Aprano +1 I enjoy the stories and ramblings. I do see the need for an OT ML for this. That said, ramble on. Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] MTP again
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

> Hi, > I am sure it was discussed here in the past, but I could not find it. > > I attach the phone to USB and select MTP (file transfer), It shows up as > camera in konqueror and I can not copy files to the device "Creating > folders is not supported with protocol camera.". > > kernel is 4.19.149 if it matters. In dmesg it says "Attached scsi generic > sg2 type 0" but after this "Power-on or device reset occurred" and "USB > disconnect, device number 21": > > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:38 2020] usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device > detected > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:38 2020] scsi host6: usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0 > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Linux File-CD > Gadget 0310 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: Power-on or device reset occurred > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:39 2020] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:40 2020] usb 2-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 21 > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 22 > using ehci-pci > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=05c6, > idProduct=0a07, bcdDevice= 3.10 > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, > Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: Product: Xperia X > [Wed Oct 28 09:26:42 2020] usb 2-1.3: Manufacturer: Sony > > Do you have any idea? I am sure it was working before, but I do not know > when ... might be long time ago as I usually copy from the device to the > PC. > > thanks > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I get this msg too. I use Android File Transfer and, sometimes, gmtp. Konq was better but suddenly stopped working. For now, the above should help. Kate

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looking for Michael's Devuan TDE iso ?
by William Morder 27 Oct '20

27 Oct '20

I went to burn the iso image, and discovered that somehow it had not been downloaded completely (using wget). So I searched the mailing list for Michael, Devuan, etc., but still no luck. Could you please send the download link once more? Many thanks! Bill

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Second reminder of the mailing list migration deadline
by Slávek Banko 27 Oct '20

27 Oct '20

Hi all, since there are still occasional posts sent to old mailing lists, I would like to point out a second time about the approaching deadline of mailing list migration. At the end of the month, the forwarding of posts back to the old mailing lists will be stopped. So let me remind those who still use old mailing list, you should consider subscription for new mailing list soon! See the full announcement that was sent some time ago: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers -- Slávek

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Re: [users] [users] installing icecat from source packages - how2 draft
by deloptes 25 Oct '20

25 Oct '20

J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote: > Correct. But for some reason I can't imagine, I linked the wrong thing. > :-) I missed this thread, but why don't you build a simple debian package? If it were to be installed in custom directory, I found out that a kind of isolation is the best approach. I use /opt/custom and compile/install in /opt/custom/<application> Then I add to the global or users PATH /opt/custom/<application>/bin I also found out that creating /opt/custom/<application> and chown to a users and compiling/installing with that user prevents from broken installers. The method never failed, although in recent years I have reduced the applications there to absolute minimum in favor to debian packages. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Oct '20

24 Oct '20

> On Saturday 24 October 2020 12:32:37 Michael via tde-users wrote: > > On Saturday 24 October 2020 02:20:57 pm William Morder via trinity-users > > via > > > > tde-users wrote: > > > On Saturday 24 October 2020 12:13:41 Michael via tde-users wrote: > > > > S'Okay, we all know spam exists, and any list is going to get some... > > > > > > > > I'm also pretty sure the mods of our list delete the spammer's account > > > > immediately. > > > > > > > > So? Please? Can we agree to just delete what does get through? > > > > > > > > Best All, > > > > Michael > > > > > > NO! We can never agree! Otherwise, some people will have nothing to do. > > > > > > Bill > > > > LOL! Actually I'm waiting for Kate's movie to come out as well ;) > > I am working on the merchandise and licensing. > > Bill > ____________________________________________________ Sorry to whom ever I directly emailed. Ooops. Anyway, working on crowd funding. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: mba colleges in bangalore
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Oct '20

24 Oct '20

> Did you have to quote the spam, including its URL, in your reply? > > As it turned out, the original spam was caught by my spam filter, but > your quoting of it wasn't. So congratulations on succeeding on getting > some spam past my filter and into my eyeballs :-( > > > -- > Steve > ____________________________________________________ I am Kate, the spam killer! The book is already out, I'm working on the movie. :) Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: mba colleges in bangalore
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 23 Oct '20

23 Oct '20

> ABBS is NBA Accredited accredited with National Assessment and Accreditation Council and International Assembly of Collegiate Business Education for excellence in its performance in higher education. The award recognizes our best practices in imparting knowledge, student support systems, and placements. We are one of the leading Mba colleges in Bangalore and also top b schools in India with an amazing track record for placement and results in the academic years. Join us to make your future a brighter one. > visit:https://abbs.edu.in/ > ____________________________________________________ Could someone please remove this from the mailing list. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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mba colleges in bangalore
by abbsedu123＠gmail.com 23 Oct '20

23 Oct '20

ABBS is NBA Accredited accredited with National Assessment and Accreditation Council and International Assembly of Collegiate Business Education for excellence in its performance in higher education. The award recognizes our best practices in imparting knowledge, student support systems, and placements. We are one of the leading Mba colleges in Bangalore and also top b schools in India with an amazing track record for placement and results in the academic years. Join us to make your future a brighter one. visit:https://abbs.edu.in/

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