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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Cannot login on TDE
by Alessandro Vercelli 22 Apr '16

22 Apr '16

---- On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:40:16 +0200 Kate Draven <borglabs4(a)gmail.com> wrote ---- HI Alessandro Try removing all the temp files. On both the host and the guest. Reboot and try again. It's just a guess based on a previous experience with TDE. Good luck lad, Kate Hi Kate, I tried as you suggested with no success, but I believe I found out the issue. Before login in TDM, I selected "Safe Session" and tried login which failed (as almost expected); so I selected "TDE" session again and it worked (even if I do not why). Anyway, thanks for the help. Cheers, Alessandro

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [trinity-users] Cannot login on TDE
by Alessandro Vercelli 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

---- On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:20:54 +0200 Kate Draven <borglabs4(a)gmail.com> wrote ---- Hi. Check perms. From the root command line. chown -R user:user /home/user Good luck, Kate Hi, that tip is always worth and I had already tried that but thanks for remind ;) Cheers, Alessandro

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Cannot login on TDE
by Alessandro Vercelli 20 Apr '16

20 Apr '16

Hi all, I've installed TDE 14.0.3 on CentOS 6.7 64bit (KVM guest VM) but cannot login on the system. I looked into /var/log/tdm.log file for errors: TQThreadInstance::finish: In TQThreadInstance::finish for thread 0x1d73400 TQObject::moveToThread: Cannot move objects with a parent [tdeinit] Fatal IO error: client killed [tdelauncher] Exiting on signal 15 Disabling FB access for 0 8 XSELINUXs still allocated at reset SCREEN: 0 objects of 320 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs DEVICE: 0 objects of 96 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs CLIENT: 0 objects of 184 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs WINDOW: 0 objects of 48 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs PIXMAP: 3 objects of 24 bytes = 72 total bytes 0 private allocs GC: 4 objects of 16 bytes = 64 total bytes 0 private allocs CURSOR: 1 objects of 8 bytes = 8 total bytes 0 private allocs GLYPH: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs TOTAL: 8 objects, 144 bytes, 0 allocs 3 PIXMAPs still allocated at reset PIXMAP: 3 objects of 24 bytes = 72 total bytes 0 private allocs GC: 4 objects of 16 bytes = 64 total bytes 0 private allocs CURSOR: 1 objects of 8 bytes = 8 total bytes 0 private allocs GLYPH: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs TOTAL: 8 objects, 144 bytes, 0 allocs 4 GCs still allocated at reset GC: 4 objects of 16 bytes = 64 total bytes 0 private allocs CURSOR: 1 objects of 8 bytes = 8 total bytes 0 private allocs GLYPH: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs TOTAL: 5 objects, 72 bytes, 0 allocs 1 CURSORs still allocated at reset CURSOR: 1 objects of 8 bytes = 8 total bytes 0 private allocs GLYPH: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs TOTAL: 1 objects, 8 bytes, 0 allocs 1 CURSOR_BITSs still allocated at reset GLYPH: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs TOTAL: 0 objects, 0 bytes, 0 allocs resizing surface0 to 16777216 memory space from 0x7f97afd88000 to 0x7f97b2d85000 memory space from 0x7f97aad88000 to 0x7f97aed88000 slots start: 1, slots end: 7 done reset The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols > Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server [tdekbdledsync] Another instance of this program is already running on this X11 display! [tdekbdledsync] Lockfile detected at '/var/lock/tdekbdledsync-:0.lock' /usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /tmp/1497696536/.ICEauthority [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/1497696536/.trinity/tmp-centos67/tdeconf_updateRTihqR.tmp:1 Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/1497696536/.trinity/tmp-centos67/tdeconf_updatehJADXf.tmp:1 tdelauncher: Fatal IO error: client killed kded: Fatal IO error: client killed --------------------------------- [dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /tmp/1497696536/.DCOPserver_centos67__0 and start dcopserver again. --------------------------------- TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x1184f50 TQObject::activate_signal: Invoking cross-thread method from object 0x11815c0 (member 2 receiver 0x1184420) (1) shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory SELinux is in permissive mode, so it should not Thanks anyone for the help, Alessandro

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Missing pyqt3 compiling tdebindings.
by Diego M. Vadell 18 Apr '16

18 Apr '16

Hi, I'm trying to compile kdebindings, so I can start programming in python. First of all, not having a configure or CMakeList.txt file is confusing, and I really don't know how to compile it. But besides, python/README says: ---- PyQt may be downloaded from this URL: http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/download3 ---- That URL no longer exists. They are now here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyqt/files/ So, Should I install pyqt3, pykde3 and sip from there? Cheers, -- Diego.

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FEDORA 20
by Gerente de Sistemas 18 Apr '16

18 Apr '16

I just instaled fedora 20 and I can not find trinity for this version. Do you know where to get the repo and the RPMS? Thank you

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kdeconnect alternative?
by Diego M. Vadell 16 Apr '16

16 Apr '16

Hi, I'm replacing my old KDE4 desktop with the lastest release of Trinity.Does anybody knows an alternative to kdeconnect, to sync files, notifications, etc. with tablets and smartphones? I wouldn't like to reinstall KDE4 for it. Thanks!! -- Diego.

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[trinity-users] New Exe GNU/Linux ISO
by David Hare 16 Apr '16

16 Apr '16

A new Exe GNU/linux Live ISO (669MB) with installer is posted here: http://www.exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/ It is a 64-bit Devuan base with a (minimal but functional) TDE R14, up to date with both at 20160413. This ISO has language support for US and UK English and Spanish. UEFI support is included but not yet properly tested, any help appreciated. Thanks to the TDE team for R14 and Devuan for the system base. David

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One more kmail config question
by Gene Heskett 12 Apr '16

12 Apr '16

Greetings; How can I disable kmails penchant for interpreting a typu as a "turn on the )*&$@Y^ html"? I presume its a hotkey I am accidentally hitting on this short spaced K-360 keyboard. I want it on ONLY if I use the mouse pulldown and checkbox in the kmail editor, and ONLY that. Its a PIMA, I note that its been turned on somehow, and I have to use the puldown and uncheck the ^$&# box to put me back in plain text about every 3rd msg I send. Aggravating & makes me use bad language. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Duplicate msgs from list
by Gene Heskett 07 Apr '16

07 Apr '16

Greetings postmaster; I have finally looked at the headers to see why mailfilters duplicate deletion function wasn't working. I turns out that I apparently have 2 active subscriptions, one to a wdtv.com server address, and one to a shentel.net address. I did unsubscribe, or at least went thru the motions prior to subscribing the shentel.net address, but I am still getting 2 copies of everything, one from each server. So, can the gheskett(a)wdtv.com address be purged from the subscription list please? The shentel.net server is working very well. I'll do another unsub just for grins though. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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07 Apr '16

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THANKS! (and an error compiling amarok)
by Diego M. Vadell 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

Hi ! First of all, thanks for making trinity. I works very well, and finally I found the lightweight DE that I was looking for. So I started compiling apps, and started with amarok. I downloaded from trinity's server (meaning, not from git). Then cmake . and make. It gives me this error when it tries to compile libamarok.so.0.0.0: /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/5.3.0/../../../../x86_64-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -ltagmp4-static collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status amarok/src/CMakeFiles/amarok-shared.dir/build.make:3012: recipe for target 'amarok/src/libamarok.so.0.0.0' failed make[2]: *** [amarok/src/libamarok.so.0.0.0] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/kubuntu/home/dvadell/tde3/build/amarok' CMakeFiles/Makefile2:199: recipe for target 'amarok/src/CMakeFiles/amarok-shared.dir/all' failed make[1]: *** [amarok/src/CMakeFiles/amarok-shared.dir/all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/kubuntu/home/dvadell/tde3/build/amarok' Makefile:127: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 So I unistalled KDE4 (I didn't need it now :) ) but the error remains. If anyone could help me, I would be very grateful. Again, thanks for trinity. Cheers, -- Diego.

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Xbel
by Baron 03 Apr '16

03 Apr '16

Hi All, Can anybody tell me what "user-places.xbel.tbcache" and "user-places.xbel" files are for. Thanks: -- Best Regards: Baron

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Test
by Rolf Schmidt 27 Mar '16

27 Mar '16

Hello, I didn't get any mail from the trinity list. So I do this test. Sorry for the noise Rolf

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curiosity v cat
by Gene Heskett 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Greetings all; I have been forced to open a terminal and do an "alsactl restore" after every login despite scattering such around in the rc.local and Xsession files. A misscue with htop killed tdm yesterday, and when it had reinited to the login screen, and I had restarted everything that killed, I had no sound, indicating the sound killer was maybe part of the stuff that runs as root before I login. So, since its working ATM, I just did a "sudo alsactl store", which if its root related, should fix it. We'll see on the next x restart, whether its a reboot or ?? And when I have had to restart, if I then have sound, I'll report back. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Hopeing I can find a regex expert here
by Gene Heskett 24 Mar '16

24 Mar '16

Greetings; I use mailfilter as a prefilter in front of fetchmail to nuke some spam while its still on the server. But its missing hits on what I suspect is the From: or Return-Path: strings that have quotation marks in the string because the string is being spec'd by being surrounded by "show this name" bs. I've added the character < as part of the string its to search for, so the search string now looks like "From:.*<*\.unwanted-tld". Does this stand that famous snow balls chance in hell of working well with or without a quoted "some funkity name" in front of the real url with the <> around it? I just love the lack of documentation on how this string comparison stuff works as shown by the man pages for grep and regex. All sorts of control options are well covered, but figureing out how to write a search expression must be one of the worlds better guarded secrets. So if someone could show me, or give a url that actually has the full docs, I'd be greatfull. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Why do I see the entire contents of my home dir on desktop?
by A M 23 Mar '16

23 Mar '16

Hello, I've migrated to Centos 7 / TDE 14.0.3. Everything went fine, apart from one point: I am no longer seeing on the screen only the contents of my $HOME/Desktop folder like it was before, but rather the contents of my entire home directory. Apparently there should be some configuration option which would allow to define $HOME/Desktop as a starting point in place of $HOME, but so far I was unable to locate it. What should I change? Thanks a lot ahead for any hint! Andy.

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TDE new logo proposal -- submission phase
by Michele Calgaro 22 Mar '16

22 Mar '16

Dear all, we discussed about a new logo for a while. So I would like to invite whoever is interested to submit their proposals or ideas within the end of the month to this ML. After that we will arrange some sort of vote to choose 3 or 4 possible candidates (including the "keep the current logo possibility") and at the end we will see what Tim thinks about it. Thanks everyone for his/her contribution. Cheers Michele PS: let's *NOT* start another war-like email chain on this again :-) Just submit yuor proposal ;-)

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Kaffeine and HDTV
by Thierry de Coulon 17 Mar '16

17 Mar '16

Hello all, Basically, this is possibly somewhat off topic, but as it's still TDE related, maybe someone allready found a solution: I've been using Kaffeine for years to watch DVB-S. Mor recently, I got a USB DVB-C receiver (Sundtek) and it works relatively well (although I got freezes). My problem is that my Cable operator recently warned us that some programs would stop being proposed in their non-HD version. Kaffeine, however, does not work with the HD versions (at least I can't set them up). Eye TV (on a Mac Mini) works (I use that as a recorder under my TV set). Am I missing some settings on Kaffeine (0.8.8)? Thierry

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Multimedia audio keys assignment
by deloptes 16 Mar '16

16 Mar '16

Hi all, since I have installed pulseaudio I have a problem with the multimedia audio keys. Where are they configured? In particular when I press mute and unmute in KMix both pulse and "HDA Intel PCH" Master volume get messed and unmute does not toggle both controls, so that I have to open KMix and unmute manually. Any ideas? thanks in advance PS: I recall I have played with multimedia keys perhaps 6y. ago. No idea where it was - just vague memory that it was about remote control and my first tv card/stick.

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Replacing the default Konsole with Byobu in desktop icons
by Joseph Thames 15 Mar '16

15 Mar '16

After more than 10 years of launching Konsole from a desktop icon which uses a Promptread routine for interactive Perl menus which writes a prompt to STDOUT and then reads the user's response from STDIN, this routine is now failing in an infinite write loop. I tried using the other Perl approaches, Readline, and Term::ReadKey with the same result, even autoflushing the output buffer after each prompt write. Nothing works I am now getting this error while pausing in the Perl debugger before the prompt, indicating that Konsole is somehow infected: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x7a00187 Apparently this shows up from time to time, but nobody has resolved it. If I use other terminal emulators, the problem goes away. In particular, Byobu replaces the look and feal of Konsole, so I would like to use it. Is there a way to change settings in the icon creation dialog with its terminal option to make byobu the terminal default instead of Konsole? Thanks in advance, Joseph Thames -- Joseph 'Bear' Thames MetaCalculus, LLC and Meta Science Foundation (505) 977-9024 - Cell Phone beartham(a)gmail.com

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Mailing list etiquette - Important!!
by Michele Calgaro 09 Mar '16

09 Mar '16

To all: The TDE mailing list is supposed to be a place where we discuss things in a polite and quiet manner. People are free to post their opinion, but please remember to respect others' opinion as well. You may not like what is being discussed in a specific thread, you are free to raise your objections to that but please refrain from denigrating other people's comment or suggestion and respect the time and effort they put in to contribute to this project. I have to say that over the last 12 months or so I have seen an increasingly number of "animated discussions" on this ML and it was not pleasant at all. Especially considering that it was completely unnecessary for them to be "animated" For the records, some of our contributors have already decided to move away because his/her suggestions were continuously denigrated on this ML. How can we expect to have new contributors if we are so negative about whatever thing they bring along?? I repeat: "How can we expect to have new contributors if we are so negative about whatever thing they bring along??" We are a small community, probably we will always be. Let's make sure this community remains a happy community. Please be considerate when you are messaging on this ML. Cheers Michele

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TDE R14 theming
by Dobigeon Nicolas 06 Mar '16

06 Mar '16

Hello team, I would like to try changing the visual style of my TDE. I was looking for some themes in kde looks but i don't know where to puts theme for TDE. Can anybody tell me where to place each part of themes ? Thanks. Nicolas D.

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Roadmap for next stable
by Dobigeon Nicolas 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

Hello Everybody, Thanks to the team for the new TDE stable release. You did a good job ! What is the roadmap for the next stable release ? There will be some new fonctionalities or only bugfix ? See you ;)

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apt-get update Failed to fetch Hash Sum mismatch
by Dave Lers 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

Running apt-get update returns the following: ... Fetched 9,539 kB in 1min 17s (123 kB/s) W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/dists/j… Hash Sum mismatch W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi… Hash Sum mismatch E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. The files haven't failed to download and they are the same files I receive when downloading them manually. /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/cache/apt rebuild with the same contents and error. The only thing that seems odd is that the builddeps Package date is 23-Nov-2015.

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Preliminary stable builds on the move
by Slávek Banko 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

Hi everyone, who is currently uses preliminary stable builds repository as you have surely noticed, the final R14.0.3 was released. At this time packages in preliminary stable builds repository and official R14.0.3 are both based on an identical source packages. If you used the preliminary stable builds only temporarily, you can now switch to official packages. This is the best time because here are waiting updates to upload into prelinary stable builds. You have been warned ;) If you are using prelinary stable builds deliberately, you can look forward to that soon will launch the first upload of packages for the new target R14.0.4. Thank you for your attention :) -- Slávek

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xmodmap + trinity.
by Calvin Morrison 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

Is there a way to have my ~/.xmodmap file applied every time i login? I looked under the keyboard section but didn't see an obvious way to do it Thanks Calvin

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kmail: set minimal font size for html messages?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

Hi all! Is there a way for kmail to set the minimal font size for html messages? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.3 Released!
by Timothy Pearson 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

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KPDF print error
by Greg Madden 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

Been printing from KPDF for quite some time,recently I got the following error. I am running Debian Stretch + TDE R 14.0.3, which is testing ..for Debian anyway. This is the error dialog with NO filters, selecting 'keep' actually prints. "The file format application/postscript\012- \012- application/octet-stream is not directly supported by the current print system. You now have 3 options: TDE can attempt to convert this file automatically to a supported format. (Select Convert) You can try to send the file to the printer without any conversion. (Select Keep) You can cancel the printjob. (Select Cancel) Do you want TDE to attempt and convert this file to application/postscript?" This is the error dialog with various filters selected, tried different combo's..same result. "The MIME type application/postscript\012- \012- application/octet-stream is not supported as input of the filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when performing page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want TDE to convert the file to a supported format?" I

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Re: [trinity-users] KMail Update
by Thierry de Coulon 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

On Sunday 21 February 2016 01.41:18 Glen Cunningham wrote: > Reply to my own post for the archives. > > On Sunday 21 February 2016 09:38:25 Glen Cunningham wrote: > > Thanks for the try, Nik, > > > > On Sunday 21 February 2016 03:39:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > It's that simple :-) > > > > NO! It is not that simple. > > (...) > > Laboriously copied the above 6 files/directories from .kde3 on the old > box to .trinity on the new one. > That did not work! Kmail failed to start. > Deleted the 5 config files, restarted kmail, at least kmail started > this time and my old mailboxes seem to have survived. > > There has gotta be a better way! > Cheers, > Glen It should - almost - work the way Nik indicated. There are possibly a few things to edit when you move to .trinity (but that will be only once). Mainly, did you edit /.trinity/share/config/kmailrc ? In the last part of the file (after the mailboxes), you have the path to your mail directory. In (very) old time this would have been ~/mail , but somwhere in KDE history it was relocated to a ./kde3 subdirectory, usually $HOME/.kde3/share/apps/kmail/mail. You must change that to $HOME/.trinity/share/apps/kmail/mail As far as I remember that's all I had to do (apart from copyinf the directory). Thierry

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KMail Update
by Glen Cunningham 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

G'day Trinity Users, At last I've found a tuit ( a round one) :-) Upgrading from TDE 3.5.11 to Trinity R14.0.2. So far, I've got Ubuntu 14.04.4 with Trinity R14.0.2 on another computer. My yellow-streak compells me to leave the working TDE 3.5.11 system alone until the new box is properly configured. My main problem is transferring KMail settings and mailboxes to the new system, so my questions are .... 1. Is it just a simple copy of the files from the old to the new systems? 2. If this is possible, which files need to be copied? From where to where? (Seems that paths and directories are very different on the two systems). FWIW. I tried searching the list archives but my search-foo is rather low just now, but I found some references that suggest that what I want to do is actually doable. Thanks in antic, Glen PS. If anyone is interested, the "new" system is an Aldi Akoya E4214 which is not as yet well supported by Linux distros but eventually got WiFi working with a custom compiled driver. G.

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[trinity-users] apps in /usr/local/share/applications/*.desktop in Lost & Found instead of where they belong
by Felix Miata 20 Feb '16

20 Feb '16

Anyone know how to get them to show in main menu sections they belong in automatically instead of Lost & Found? (TDERandRTray and Konsole-superusermode are there too.) -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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keyboard back light issue
by Pisini, John 19 Feb '16

19 Feb '16

I have a CM devastator keyboard with back lighting. This keyboard uses the scroll lock key to turn the light on and off. On my system running Ubuntu under other desktop environments like Mate or KDE I can turn the back light on using xset led 3 and I usually have it scripted to turn on after I log in. Under Trinity doing xset led 3 causes the keyboard to flash really quickly once and then the light goes off. Is there something holding the keyboard under Trinity? Is there a way to use the back light? -- John P

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Alexandre's remaster
by Lisi Reisz 19 Feb '16

19 Feb '16

I went to check on the latest version of Alexandre's remaster for PCLinuxOS, having the PCLinuxOS_no_TDE_remaster_5sept2015.iso already downloaded; but the most recent on the TDE site is this one: PCLinuxOS_no_remaster_2octobre2014.iso Is there a problem with the newer one? Lisi

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One more question for the TDE guru's
by Gene Heskett 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

Greetings everybody; Everytime I have to reboot, but often, or more recently because of tdm updates, restart tdm, I have had to find a shell and execute "alsactl restore" before I have sound. Is there a file that runs after my login, far enough after it, that I could add that command to instead of figureing out "hey its awful quiet in here" some time after the restart and reminds me to go and execute it? If I could figure out where in the restart the sound gets muted, I'd fix it there. This has been a nearly 2 year long problem for me. Thanks everybody. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Hep me! ksmserver crash
by Peter Laws 10 Feb '16

10 Feb '16

This started after an update Friday. Get the login screen, system accepts password, progress bar shows for about 1/3 of the way, then get the dialog box about ksmserver crashing. I've done both "report crash" and "create backtrace" both of which cycle me back to the login screen. I pull packages from here: deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb trusty deps-r14 main-r14 Stuff I don't understand from the logs: Feb 9 11:01:47 toto3 kernel: [ 0.008000] tsc: Marking TSC unstable due to check_tsc_sync_source failed Feb 9 11:01:47 toto3 kernel: [ 0.920132] ioapic: probe of 0000:00:05.4 failed with error -22 Feb 9 11:01:47 toto3 kernel: [ 4.348917] fglrx: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel Feb 9 11:01:48 toto3 failsafe: Failsafe of 120 seconds reached. Feb 9 11:02:01 toto3 kernel: [ 18.578714] init: failsafe main process (1243) killed by TERM signal [ 232.363] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] [ 232.363] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] [ 232.363] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS" Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-77-generic x86_64) -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu College of Architecture, Regional and City Planning, MRCP '16

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Supposedly on latest R14 but apt-get is reporting IGN on the mirror.xcer.cz translation
by Gene Heskett 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

Ign http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org wheezy/2.7-rtpreempt Translation-en_US Ign http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org wheezy/2.7-rtpreempt Translation-en Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy/main Translation-en_US Ign http://mozilla.debian.net wheezy-backports/iceweasel-release Translation-en_US Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy/main Translation-en Ign http://mozilla.debian.net wheezy-backports/iceweasel-release Translation-en Ign http://mirror.xcer.cz wheezy/deps-r14 Translation-en_US Ign http://linuxcnc.org wheezy/2.6 Translation-en_US Ign http://mirror.xcer.cz wheezy/deps-r14 Translation-en Ign http://linuxcnc.org wheezy/2.6 Translation-en Ign http://linuxcnc.org wheezy/2.7-uspace Translation-en_US Ign http://mirror.xcer.cz wheezy/main-r14 Translation-en_US Ign http://linuxcnc.org wheezy/2.7-uspace Translation-en Ign http://mirror.xcer.cz wheezy/main-r14 Translation-en Ign http://linuxcnc.org wheezy/base Translation-en_US Ign http://linuxcnc.org wheezy/base Translation-en So obviously I do not have the correct entry in the line for mirror.xcer.cz wheezy in my sources.list or perhaps something in preferences suffering from bitrot? What is the correct sources.list line for staying current with all tde r14 updates? I did just now get 11 updates for the box on the mill, but none for this box, which should have similar TDE installs. But I've been looking at a red star for the update-manager status just to the left of the time-date display for weeks, just on this machine, but if I "sudo apt-get update", no errors are reported. But I just checked in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and found several enpty or all commented out files and nuked them and the red star is gone. Puzzling at best, like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Plausible explanation for a buglet? DIIK. Thanks folks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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News on BSD?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

Hi all! I just wanted to ask: is any news on porting TDE to *BSD? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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Huge tde update yesterday, python stuff now fails
by Gene Heskett 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

Greetings guru's; This did work before the 51 tde updates yesterday: gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc$ python python_opencv_camera_example_with_gui.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "python_opencv_camera_example_with_gui.py", line 278, in <module> main() File "python_opencv_camera_example_with_gui.py", line 222, in main root = Tk() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1712, in __init__ self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use) _tkinter.TclError: unknown color name "BACKGROUND" This has been a dog & pony show I have been to before, several times, and each time IIRC the fix was different. Historically, if by playing the 10,000 monkeys with typewriters scene long enough that I manage to fix 'BACKGROUND' the FOREGROUND will be the next excuse used to exit a formerly working script. Does anyone have a clue what to fix this time? Thanks everybody. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Who are using 3.5.13.x series?
by Slávek Banko 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

Hi to all, I know that there are still many users who use TDE 3.5.13.x series. Please, you use official 3.5.13.2 or my older PPA 'axis'? For those who use PPA 'axis': You've probably noticed that some time ago there were several updates. I would therefore ask you whether you can change the address in the sources.list from original ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net to mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org. Benefits will be on both sides. Because on mirror.ppa are packages for most of distributions in the local cache, you'll have faster downloads. And thanks to this will be less load of line to the master server. Cheers -- Slávek

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TDE and Wayland
by Thierry de Coulon 01 Feb '16

01 Feb '16

I've just been reading about Wayland supposed to be used in distributions this year. While I guess X will still be provided for some time, I was wondering how Wayland would impact TDE? Thierry

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kaddressbook no resource file available kmail 1.9.10 trinity R14.0.3 on debian Jessie
by kanenas＠hawaii.rr.com 30 Jan '16

30 Jan '16

had this system running for a while now, but somehow i never used kaddressbook. I thought i had it configured correctly, but, since it doesn't work, i done something wrong. The standard error is " no resource available". googling for it helps very little and everything reverts to kde4, even the "about kmail" help tag link!!!! any pointers to properly configuring kaddressbook would be appreciated. thanks in advance, d.

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Still keyboard trouble
by Thierry de Coulon 29 Jan '16

29 Jan '16

Hello all, I allready mentionned this problem, but it seems to get worse recently: I use Keyboard Layouts (enabled through Trinity Control Center). I set "German (Switzerland) ch, fr variant, as first Layout, with English (US) as second option. This works fine, except that I often loose the function of the "Alt Gr" key (for those who only know the US keyboard, Alt Gr is necessary to access a bunch of characters we use in non-English languages. This in inconvenient as it means I loose {} and [], but as I don-t program a lot... However we need the Alt Gr key also to get @, and it so happens that I use it in passwords that usually have to be typed in blind. I know where to find it on the US keyboard, but I have no way to know if my Alt Gr works or not before a password fails. This is independent from distribution (I had hoped that switching to Jessie and 14.0.2 would help, but not). What I don't know is what is causing the problem. The rest of the keyboard layout continues to work, only Alt Gr is gone. So far only loging out and in cures the problem. Anyone has a clue to what causes this? Thierry

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Kate and Konsole settings lost
by Philip Ashmore 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

Hi there. After starting my laptop I notices that my two Kate instances had forgot the session they had open. Also, Konsole forgot its open tabs and the settings/schema/paper background. These were easy enough to restore but in case it's a symptom of a more serious problem I thought I'd run it by the list. Also, shutdown didn't complete so I had to hard-reset the laptop with the press-the-power-button-down-for-5-seconds trick, not nice! Regards, Philip Ashmore

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Kate
by Baron 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

Hi Guys, What do I have to do to stop "kate" from respawning ? I've tried renaming all instances that I can find, even deleting them and it still keeps coming back. Thanks: -- Best Regards: Baron

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Konqueror default view mode -- how to make it ‘really’ permanent?
by Ken Heard 23 Jan '16

23 Jan '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My default view profile for Konqueror is ‘File management’. In that profile I have set the ostensible default view mode to ‘detailed list’. However, during a Konqueror session it does not always stay that way; sometimes it reverts to ‘icon view’. For example, if I open a text file from Konqueror, the file will open in the application I have specified in ‘file associations’: LibreOffice for odt files, Kedit for txt files, etc. After such files are closed from Konqueror, the file list reverts to ‘detailed list’. If however I open any other file type, such as a jpg file, after such file is closed the file list reverts to ‘icon view’ instead of the ostensible default ‘detailed list’ file view. How do I cause Konqueror in such situations to revert to that default? In file .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc there is the following entry: [ModeToolBarServices] external=konq_detailedlistview Is that entry related to the problem I am experiencing? Regards, Ken -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlahsHgACgkQlNlJzOkJmTdb4wCcCWZZpNRtEGG1kgeNbv/m403g pN4An1jUSkRCEryBiWa14T5H6zNVwnBo =JBbO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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tdesudo problem with TDE menu
by Michele Calgaro 15 Jan '16

15 Jan '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 @Gene Heskett, please see comments here http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2563 and let us know if this solves the problem you raised some time ago. Cheers Michele -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWlixHAAoJECp1t8qK3tXPdXgP/09hfAk124yj62naSw4L3lq4 Y79hL6gZhhjD9b2FyT9x22OE8Q+mowq8AlXKCVrtNXbVnscfcm4zG4FkUIhC4ECc d3jdbMiU9Z8X8/4mjyCEmizCuOXUXVFH27hp9xNpzbZkWI7u9znPwbyXY9tBp78X CeqJDLqeUkFvcya2EwD7jGqIw9Sz5bbDV4Mam4uxjdoIoWcw1hG/OznyjDH9dPG5 TA7t+242pxL4L90IVrO2wVE6XzACJQXGS7xvDBByv9rNS/epY9le36ZVGiAQes22 IZdFUvNld+FEn9pKjEPGZdkEDTLoSbe8+OVZoQs0N16ky7n3ljJ68ctI5sf4tap6 VR+SDG/h1CZHdWjjay++1hECm00f3T8irFX83m4XZfhn+RT+UahYJSYN18AH+00t jDJGMkkFmI6f7DQIqJOSG3239cUsInyvaAYrvqbG2idMVEjc+taBeqGbYLelpo2b 7kAzawQ7uXMuMkK/CUgQAHmYjmWv9g8EylSuuIQvrnPfC3Pg9yviOLGMIRdqVl3+ bf+NfGkEtnOyvaTZKyD+NJqXtiaOluv+4d/9VKcnk7MtmjhVWlj7eWrLhtJ4S2Ny z9waBmygVl9+tiuI+Aq1c6KMopns8xctM6Me2xia187MWHAYwghGAYrPkf3GV0+0 /WVBLYgeHeE9sniMp43A =/TE6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora 21
by Gerente de Sistemas 14 Jan '16

14 Jan '16

Hello, Can you help me to install TDE on OpenBSD 5.8, Fedora 21 AND in GoboLinux? Thanks.

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Messages bouncing again
by Lisi Reisz 12 Jan '16

12 Jan '16

I have been getting messages again from the ezmlm program. They have improved - at least now I shall only be ejected if the probe fails, not if *I* bounce another message. In itself it is not a problem, since I can ignore or delete them, but it means that I get none of deloptes' messages to this list. The error message that I am sent suggests that it is Gmail's fault, but both deloptes and I use exactly the same email addresses on the Debian list as on this one, and I get his messages there, so it must in some way be due to ezmlm. Is there anything I, or anyone here, can do about it? Lisi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <quote> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list. I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net. Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received. If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice. Copies of these messages may be in the archive. [snip] Here are the message numbers: 9751 9753 9755 9759 9770 9771 9773 9775 9778 9780 9787 9802 9807 9815 9820 --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. [snip] <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>: host alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.141.27] said: 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if 550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 550-5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about DMARC 550 5.7.1 initiative. h192si57227017vka.138 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command) </quote> The email address in question is elsewhere said to be: deloptes(a)yahoo.com

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konqueror problem
by Gene Heskett 12 Jan '16

12 Jan '16

Greetings list; iceweasel seems to have gone to the dogs with all the libssl updates as they try to sort the latest exploit. So I am driven to konqueror, which usually works, but when clicking on a link to follow in kmail, kmail seems to be passing konqueror a link to the display buffer in /var/tmp, as opposed to just passing the text link I clicked on. It does work ok if I slide the mouse highlight the link, switch to the konqueror screen, and middle click paste it into the address bar of konqueror. Am I the only one with this problem? Lisi seems to think so. Also, and it took a while to find this, the TDE default applications menu, and the default applications database konqueror uses, seems to be two separate databases, which was very confusing because I could be looking at konqueror, clicking on a sublink to try and locate a download or docs directory on some external site, and konqueror was passing it to iceweasel! Perhaps this explains why trying to change the "default" application in KDE, and not having it take effect until a root session, editing something in /etc/kde was also done. That was a PITA. Maybe a bug/feature request is in order? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Trinity Desktop for Slackware Update - Binaries for i486 & x86_64
by Jerry Nettrouer II 10 Jan '16

10 Jan '16

I recently built i486 and x86_64 - Trinity Desktop - packages for Slackware 14.1 the packages are compiled as the native desktop, and not for the /opt/trinity directory. If your interested you can download the i486, x86_64, or build script, each as single packages, from my website at this URL http://www.inpito.org/trinity.php later.

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saving power settings
by Dave 09 Jan '16

09 Jan '16

I've noticed that using Trusty Tahr with R14.0.2, I cannot get trinity to save the power management settings. It does create the directory "~/.trinity/share/config/tdedisplay/" directory, but it's empty. The directory can be erased, but Monitor & Display will recreate an empty directory. Happens on 2 machines. Dave

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TDE for F20/21
by Gerente de Sistemas 08 Jan '16

08 Jan '16

Hello. I wish you all a great 2$16. Anybody knows where to get TDE for Fedora 20/21 and for OpenBSD? Thank you

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Configuring two monitors connected to the same computer
by Ken Heard 07 Jan '16

07 Jan '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a box with Debian Wheezy and TDE installed in it. The GPU has three connectors, one DVI and two HDMI. I have two monitors connected to it. The diagonal measurement of one is 49 cm. It has a 1600x900 resolution and is connected to the box by a DVI cable. The other is a TV/monitor with a diagonal measurement of 124 cm (49 inches). It is connected to the box by HDMI. The box recognizes its existence, but the display on it has the same resolution as the smaller monitor. It consequently uses only about 40-45% of the screen area, nor is it centred on the screen. It starts more or less from the upper left corner and leaves an L shaped unused black space on the bottom and right sides. The left side does not correspond to the left side of the screen; a strip on the left side of the display is seen on the smaller monitor but not on the large one. Is it possible to create a display resolution larger than 1600x900 for the large monitor and properly centred on the screen, possibly using the ‘Monitor and Display’ feature of the TDE Control Centre? Regards, Ken -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlZ5CF4ACgkQlNlJzOkJmTdnSQCeJh8VQhZSvohCbt0/1l3nR9Ll 984An0Y3kHc/uEu/cREaZtH9Mct0S9Qo =bBdu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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"Xkb Options" Dialog and keyboard layout swithing
by Ilya Dogolazky 07 Jan '16

07 Jan '16

Hi ! I defined two keyboard layouts in fresh installed TDE under Debian Stable (jessie): one for Finnish and one for Russian keyboard. I did it via "Trinity Control Center --> Regional and accessibility --> Keyboard Layout --> Layout". So now I can switch the keyboard by clicking the ru/fi flag symbol in the panel. How can I define a keyboard shortcut to switch it? On some old machines with TDE I somehow managed it, but now I just can't. Whatever I click in the "Switching Options" or "Xkb Options" --- nothing works, the only way to switch keyboard is the mouse click. Please explain, how I can do it just by TDE configuration. Thanks! Ilya D.

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Port of KDE5 Breeze window borders for TDE
by Alexandre 06 Jan '16

06 Jan '16

Hi, I decided to port KDE Plasma 5 ''Breeze'' window borders to TDE. It uses TDE's IceWM-compatible theme engine. It is not 100% done, because for now the active and inactive windows are the same color, and for an unknown reasons, TDE does not follow the option to center the text, but it already gives a good preview of it! If you want to use it on your system, just extract the archive to /opt/trinity/share/apps/twin/(icewmtheme) Have a great 2016! -Alexandre

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saving monitor power settings
by dave 04 Jan '16

04 Jan '16

I've noticed that using Trusty Tahr with R14.0.2, I cannot get trinity to save the power management settings. It does create the directory "~/.trinity/share/config/tdedisplay/" directory, but it's empty. The directory can be erased, but Monitor & Display will recreate an empty directory. Happens on 2 machines. Dave

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Port of KDE5 Breeze window borders for TDE
by Kate Draven 04 Jan '16

04 Jan '16

> On 16-01-04 10:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 January 2016 14:49:00 Alexandre wrote: > >> Which one? KDE5? > >> KDE Plasma 5 is now default on Kubuntu 15.10 > >> > >>> on Kubuntu 15.10. After all the updates installed, it works very > >>> well on my Core 2 Duo with 2gb of ram, from the 2008 or so era. > >> I haven't tested. Perhaps Felix hasn't either. But why does it matter? > >> Why must TDE constantly compete? Why is it a competition? Each person > >> uses what her or she likes. If you prefer KDE5, I see no reason why you > >> shouldn't use KDE5. Why does TDE have to become like it?? If KDE5 is now > >> faster than TDE on similar hardware, good for it. > >> > >> Yes, everyone uses what he-she likes. I think you didn't understanded what > >> I wrote in the way I meant it. Plasma 5 is overall much faster and > >> responsive than KDE4 on the same hardware. > > Ah! From what I heard that wouldn't be difficult. But as neither an Ubuntu > > fan nor a KDE4+ fan I haven't used it. If I want/need an Ubuntu I use > > Lubuntu. > > > >> TDE is more responsive (when it > >> doesn't lockup) than KDE4 and Plasma 5, but TDE does take more time to boot > >> than Plasma 5. > > Interesting. Fast boot-up seems to be th order of the day. But does it now > > make a difference what is underneath? > > > >> MS-DOS isn't much used anymore (as in not competitive), because it does not > >> fill the needs of most computer's users out there. This is just an example. > > I would analyse its demise as being hardware related. Many of us liked it, > > but it is not up coping with to modern hardware. > > > >> Difference and individuality are part of what Open Source and Free Software > >> are all about. > >> > >> Lisi > >> > >> Yes, differences and individuality is part of open source world, but we > >> should all (all) be respectful for other's work and other individuals. > > Of course. That goes without saying. It is par for the course. > > > > Lisi > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > > Boot time has come up on various lists for years. > I must say I never understood the point, especially for Linux. > Does anyone boots and reboot her Linus ten times a day - or even more - ? > I think the boot time is of little interest for Linux since updates do > not require a reboot - not like an other popular OS ;-) > A power failure or a major version upgrade are the only occasions for a > reboot on my Linux boxes. > > My 2 cents, > Pascal Agreed. I think it's ego thing. Proprietary OS are claiming it as a "super useful feature" and well, sorry to be rude, but crakmonkeys are buying it as important. Somewhere along the line, some devels did as well. I think it has only a little importants and to be honest I haven't noticed any significant different in boot times over the years. It really depends on the computer. My 1.8 Duo T60 with 4g of ram boots faster with Ark Linux 2008 than it does with most other distros. It does boot after with Alexander and Ali's distros as well as UnityLinux with Enlightenment as the gui. My 2 cents, as well. Cheers and happy new year to all (as applicable) Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] Superuser rights problem
by Thierry de Coulon 31 Dec '15

31 Dec '15

On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19.59:42 Michele Calgaro wrote: (...) > > Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. > > Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour: > > > > - if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the > > password. Neither the root password nor the user password work. > > > > - if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command, > > the password is asked first, and the program works correctly. (...) > > Thierry > > Hi Thierry, > I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything > wrong. But maybe I was doing something different from you. > Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce > the post? Some screenshots would also be useful . > Thanks > Michele OK, I once again forgot to link the pictures... :) Hi Michele, Not so easy... There's not much showing. With kpackage, I get the same behaviour wether I start kpackage (from the TDE/kicker menu) or by right-clicking on the *.deb file and choosing "open with": kpackage opens, I choose install, kpackage asks for the password (snapshot 1). Maybe a clue? It asks for the SUDO password - I have no sudo password. Neither the root nor the user password work. The dialog box disappears, then comes back, and so on. If I modify the menu command in "tdesu kpackage", kpackage works (albeit I get a "tdeinit could not start tdesu" message...). I tried starting kpackage from the command line but all I get is: thierry@haswell:~$ kpackage TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing TQLayout "unnamed" added to TQVBox "page", which already has a layout thierry@haswell:~$ ^C thierry@haswell:~$ No idea if this tells you something... Gostcrypt shows a similar behaviour, but with no message at all. I can select the crypted partition, but when I want to mount it this requires the root password, which is not taken, so of course gostcrypt does not get the superuser rights (snapshot 2). tdesu gostcrypt works perfectly, so this is not really a problem. I also need tdesu to start synaptic, but this is more to get a nice dialog box (otherwise some text window is used to ask for the root password. Thank you, Thierry

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Superuser rights problem
by Thierry de Coulon 31 Dec '15

31 Dec '15

I've installed a brand new "Jessie" with TDE. Globally a smooth install. Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour: - if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the password. Neither the root password nor the user password work. - if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command, the password is asked first, and the program works correctly. This is no problem with gostcrypt, but with kpackage it means that I can't use "open with" with a package, I must load the package in kpackage (not a big deal, but I wish I would understand what the problem is). I did not see this problem with openSuSE, seems to be Debian related. Thierry

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Trinity in FreeBSD
by Robert Peters 30 Dec '15

30 Dec '15

Hi - has anyone experience or recommendations re using Trinity in FreeBSD? - Robert

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kmail-1.9.10 vs signed messages
by Gene Heskett 28 Dec '15

28 Dec '15

Greetings all; I would like at some point to be able to use some sort of verification, even encryption for some of my emails. But the msg from Ken Heard displays the start of my problem, in that no matter how I configure kmail on the crypto tab, any message bearing a signature will be displayed at first with a checking signature message, then nominally 1 second later, will either change to a yellow bar say not enough information, or a red bar that says its bad. It has never, ever shown me that its a good signature. So, how do I proceed to bring this feature into the appropriate RFC compliance and properly functioning? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Tde on Ubuntu 14.04 running chinese Wondermedia WM8880 netbook
by Alexandre 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

Hi all, I bought a few weeks ago a 10 inch android netbook, with a dual-core 1.5ghz WonderMedia WM8880 cpu and 512mb of ram, 2 regular usb 2.0 ports, wifi and ethernet. These go for around 100$ on ebay and so far, it is a great buy! It has Android 4.4 and can boot from the sd card. I found somewhere on internet (from the guys at http://androportal.github.io/linux-on-aakash/) a working Ubuntu 14.04 image for this netbook. I currently run Slavek's TDE Preliminary Stable Build on it, and TDE is very comfortable on it and responsive, even with Compton enabled. Real-life power seems to me to be almost the same as the Raspberrry Pi 2(subjectively), but in a complete and pretty laptop. Hardware support is more or less complete, as I have to use an external usb to ethernet adapter to go online, and no wifi for now under linux, but it is still a very capable machine and the quality is much better than it was in the past. If someone is interested in it, I'll be able to upload online an image of the sd card. Merry Christmas and may 2016 be a great year for you and your family! -Alexandre

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Open in Iceweasel URLs in Icedove emails -- how?
by Ken Heard 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Before Wheezy clicking on a URL in an icedove email would cause the URL to open in iceweasel. With Wheezy and Jessie I can no longer do so. Now I have to copy the URL from the email, open iceweasel and then enter it myself in the iceweasel address line. In one computer I have Wheezy, TDE 14.0.2, icedove 38.4.0 and iceweasel 38.5.0. Update-alternatives --config x-www-browser points to iceweasel %u as the default. In addition file ~/mozilla/icedove/9vgk89rr.default/user.js contains the following two lines: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "iceweasel %u"); user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", "iceweasel %u") Removing the ‘%u’ where I had it has no effect; so I kept them. I also ran in my user the command xdg-mime default iceweasel.desktop x-scheme-handler/http \ x-scheme-handler/https also to no effect. Am I missing something else required to open URLs in icedove emails automatically in iceweasel? I have the same problem with another computer with Jessie instead of Wheezy, but I do not have access to that one at this time. Compliments of the season and thanks in advance for any help provided, Ken Heard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlZ/b4IACgkQlNlJzOkJmTdsegCfT2XxM5Ss7+jhF3CnYc4J/55m ni8An0SJY0igcEoFQpsxFMSIP5iL5/Xe =QS5M -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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DANGEROUS LINUX PROGRAM CALLED "TRINITY"
by Mark S Bilk 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

On this website: http://codemonkey.org.uk/projects/trinity/ is a Linux program that makes random system-calls. The author calls it a "fuzzer" and has named it "Trinity". When run, it creates lots of junk files, can delete pre-existing files, and do anything else the OS can do. A friend of mine wanted to install TDE, but carelessly ran that "fuzzer" program instead. He cleaned out the junk files but doesn't know what other damage has been done. People need to be warned about that program! I sent e-mail to the author asking him to put a warning on his web page for people seeking TDE, but I don't know if he will do it. Prospective TDE users must be sent here directly: http://trinitydesktop.org/ and told not to find it via Google, etc.

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Mouse, continued
by Gene Heskett 24 Dec '15

24 Dec '15

Greetings all; I am having a problem with the mouse pointer being very hard to find on the milling machines box. TCC doesn't show me any themes, so what do I need to install that will A, give me a bigger pointer, and B color it some bright color with buckets of contrast on the default bluish TDE screen? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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update-rc.d tdm-trinity disable doesn't work on raspbian jessie
by Philip Ashmore 24 Dec '15

24 Dec '15

Hi there. I've got some raspberry pi's running raspbian-jessie with trinity installed. They're intended to be run headless, with trinity available as needed. I'd like the option to start the desktop manually, not automatically. I tried # update-rc.d tdm-trinity disable and got insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `tdm-trinity' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `tdm-trinity' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6). insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `tdm-trinity' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `tdm-trinity' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6). After a reboot I'm still seeing /var/run/tdm.pid and I can stop the desktop/greeter? with # /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity stop I ran raspi-config and set the option to boot into command line without login/desktop but that doesn't seem to have any effect. Any pointers? Regards, Philip Ashmore

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Merry Christmas !
by Baron 24 Dec '15

24 Dec '15

A very merry and happy Christmas to all. Thanks in particular to the Trinity team for a great Desktop Enviroment. Looking forward to 2016 with great expectations. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Re: [trinity-users] Merry Christmas !
by Kate Draven 24 Dec '15

24 Dec '15

> A very merry and happy Christmas to all. > Thanks in particular to the Trinity team for a great Desktop > Enviroment. Looking forward to 2016 with great expectations. > > -- > Best Regards: > Baron Here here, plus 1 And thank you Baron, or is that Red Baron? Kate

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Specifying SMTP server by folder in KMail 1.9.10
by Lisi Reisz 23 Dec '15

23 Dec '15

Is there any way I can specify the SMTP server for my emails so that mailing lists go via one server and everything else with the other? I can do it manually quite easily, but that requires me to remember. And it is a bit of a nuisance. I have KMail set to use different identities according to folder. I would like to be able to use different SMTP servers according to folder. Lisi

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Audio CD encoding to MP3
by Curt Howland 23 Dec '15

23 Dec '15

Quick question, I noticed that the selections when inserting an audio CD are WAV, CDA, FLAC and OggVorbis. You can tell it's been a while, wasn't MP3 on that list? Curt- -- The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage. - Thucydides

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Problem with sound from Tdemid
by alistair izzard 23 Dec '15

23 Dec '15

Hi Merry Christmas and a very happy new year to all. I wonder if you can help with this, installed tdemid and loaded a midi file, but I don't get any sound from it, I have been in pulse audio and it doesn't show, I have also tried all the midi maps to see if I get sound, I can see the file playing and it seems functional just as I said, no sound. Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions Alie

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Failed to add a plugin to the panel
by deloptes 22 Dec '15

22 Dec '15

Hi before logging a bug I would consult the community on following. In the console I type: kfmclient exec settings:/ or kfmclient openURL settings:/ which opens the settings in konqueror, but then I open "Peripherals" or whatever is called in English and press Mouse. I get Failed to add a plugin to the panel No running instance of xfce4-panel was found WTH? Any idea? Anyone else can reproduce this? I've never used xfce thanks regards

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cannot launch shell script
by Giuliano Colla 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

I'm running TDE 14.0.2 on CentOs 6. My compliments to the trinity team for the excellent job! I've got back all the reach features of KDE 3, instead of a bloated and much less usable Plasma thing. However I've stumbled into an annoying issue. When clicking on the icon of an executable shell script (extension .sh), it's opened for editing in Kate, and not launched. The same, under KDE4 is properly executed. Is it a matter of some improper setting that I can fix, or a bug? Additional information. Looking to the file properties, I see that it's using the settings for the group "text". In /opt/trinity/share/mimelink I find both /text/x-shellscript.desktop which has a line: X-TDE-IsAlso=application/x-executable-script and a line [Property::X-TDE-text] and /application/x-shellscript.desktop which has the two identical line, which make little sense IMHO because if I understand properly they tell that it's also itself, and that it should be treated as text. Thanks for any help. Giuliano

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openSuSE and trinity-tdemultimedia >= 14.02
by Thierry de Coulon 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

I don't remember who maintains the openSUSE builds, but I'd first like to thank him for all the work! Having some free time I decided to give "Leap 42.1" a try. It installs correctly under Gnome 3 (SUSE provides Mate as an install choice now, I've noted). Then I started installing TDE and all went well until "zypper install trinity-desktop". At that point I get a puzzling message: trinity-desktop-14.0.2-1.oss421.noach requires trinity-tdemultimedia >= 14.02 but this requirement cannot be provided. Repos being updated? Leap version uncomplete? Simply the usual communication problems with some repos, try later? No big deal as I don't intend using Leap before next summer (I _never_ change my work distribution during the school year...) but I'd like to understand the message. Greetings from Switzerland, Thierry

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KSysV missfire
by Gene Heskett 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

Greetings; Out of curiosity, I tried to run ksysv from the tde menu. Can't. If insists on a root pw that does not exist on this debian wheezy install. A sudo -i in a konsole for me, and it runs just fine. This really ought to be fixed. No biggie for me, but... Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Some mill pix are at: Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene/GO704-pix>

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Mimetype problems with r14
by Kate Draven 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

As you may have guess, I found a mimetype problem for any trinity applications. I just found out that k3b for trinity cannot open/recognize its own saved projest files/mimetypes (just like chalk doesn't). However k3b for kde4 could and that was the clue. Install chalk and try to open a template. Or create and save a project with k3b for trinity. See if they work. I don't think it will. I'm not jumping to the conclusion that I'm right. However I have seen this across 29 machines so far. The reason, I think, for that is because these mimetypes are for kde4 (best way I can explain it). I can open k3b saved projects in k3b for kde4, but not in k3b for trinity. The mimetype designs for kde3 / 4 are not compatible with r14. These appears randomly throughout the gui, for example kword cannot open an rtf anymore etc etc. As I dig deeper I'm finding more of this. I can do work arounds but they're ugly and not sustainable. These problems only relate to trinity and does not affect gtk or others. Please let know what all of find. When I have time I'll try to file a bug report. Thanks Kate

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TDE and bluetooth (Bluez 5)
by deloptes 20 Dec '15

20 Dec '15

Hi, sorry for bugging you all, but now I'm trying to catch up what I missed in the past 4+ years. Unfortunately I did find out that the mess around bluetooth is getting even bigger now with Bluez 5. http://askubuntu.com/questions/440386/bluetoothd-bluez-5-wont-connect-with-… What is your experience with BT and is someone using it with phones? After couple of hours I was able to pair my old symbian phone, but bt-agent (bluez-tools) is segfaulting (kernel 4.1.6) bluetoothctl worked after executing the proper sequence of commands and catching the phone in good mood. How would one pair the phone (or any BT device) from within TDE? regards

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List removal
by Tony Smith 18 Dec '15

18 Dec '15

Can someone take me off this list? Yes I know there are commands to do it but non of them work! Regards -- Tony Smith Underdog Software Ltd 22 Vickers House Priestley Road Basingstoke RG24 9NP http://www.underdogsoftware.co.uk/

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[trinity-users] no sound whatsoever in r14.0.2 on openSUSE 13.1, 13.2 or Tumbleweed or Fedora 23
by Felix Miata 17 Dec '15

17 Dec '15

starttde won't even start due to http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 so I run /opt/trinity/bin/starttde from the xterm that startx puts on the display, in which the following appears (among much else which I cannot figure out how to copy and paste into any file): [starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 0 [tdeinit] Shutting down running client. ... [FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE name: gpiochip206 type: (null) subsystem: gpio drive r: gpio_ich [Node Path: (null) [Syspath: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1F.0/gpio_ich/gpio/gpiochip206] [8086:2640] ... [artsd] There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... [artsd] Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files... ... konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /opt/trinity/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified). ... What program needs --system? How do I configure that way? How do I get sound in these distros? Same distros typically make sound automagically on other hardware, so why this machine's trouble is inexplicable, especially as it works as expected with Jessie. Running alsaconf unloads all kernel snd modules, then reports cannot find any sound device. Installation/machine data: # aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 # lspci | grep Audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) # lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 33097 4 snd_ac97_codec 113887 1 snd_intel8x0 ac97_bus 12671 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm 97617 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 24319 1 snd_pcm snd 70630 12 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 14600 1 snd snd_page_alloc 14231 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm # hwinfo --sound 22: PCI 1e.2: 0401 Multimedia audio controller [Created at pci.319] Unique ID: r0Vg.GIatCp3PtAA SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.2 SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1e.2 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Dell Optiplex GX280" Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" Device: pci 0x266e "82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller" SubVendor: pci 0x1028 "Dell" SubDevice: pci 0x0179 "Optiplex GX280" Revision: 0x03 Driver: "snd_intel8x0" Driver Modules: "snd_intel8x0" I/O Ports: 0xec00-0xecff (rw) I/O Ports: 0xe8c0-0xe8ff (rw) Memory Range: 0xdfebfe00-0xdfebffff (rw,non-prefetchable) Memory Range: 0xdfebfd00-0xdfebfdff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 23 (4547 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d0000266Esv00001028sd00000179bc04sc01i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_intel8x0 is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_intel8x0" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown # systemctl list-unit-files | egrep 'snd|alsa|pulse|sound' alsa-restore.service static alsa-state.service static alsa-store.service static alsasound.service static sound.target static # systemctl list-units | egrep 'snd|alsa|pulse|sound' sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1e.2-sound-card0.device loaded active plugged 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (Optiplex GX280) sound.target # rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'pavuc|alsa|arts|kspace|phonon|pulse' alsa-1.0.27.2-3.5.1.i586 alsa-firmware-1.0.27-2.1.2.noarch alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.27-3.1.1.i586 alsa-tools-1.0.27-5.1.3.i586 alsa-tools-gui-1.0.27-5.1.3.i586 alsa-utils-1.0.27.2-4.5.1.i586 arts-1.5.10-37.1.3.i586 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 libpulse0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pavucontrol-2.0-2.4.2.i586 pulseaudio-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pulseaudio-module-x11-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pulseaudio-utils-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pyalsa-1.0.26-5.1.2.i586 trinity-arts-1.5.10-14.0.2_1.oss131.i586 trinity-arts-config-pulseaudio-1.5.10-14.0.2_1.oss131.i586 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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adept-update missfire?
by Gene Heskett 16 Dec '15

16 Dec '15

Greetings all; I had not used it so far as I'm a synaptic fan, but had a power outage today, and when I rebooted it, the adept icon came up so I clicked on it, but it never completed showing me a list once it opened its screen/window. I let it sit there for a couple minutes then clicked on cancel and got a crash screen, which wasn't able to send the crash report since there is not a copy of GDB on that machine. Synaptic of coarse fired right up & replaced the 3 Linuxcnc packages with newer versions. I hope this wasn't a pre-curser to a trashed database. Has anyone had a problem with the adept-updater (or whatever its called)? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Some mill pix are at: Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene/GO704-pix>

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Ubuntu 15.10 - 14.0.2 - TDE Black Screen - Virtual Terminals unresponsive
by Corey McGuire 15 Dec '15

15 Dec '15

Hey all, I have installed both the TDE Ubuntu and tried TDE under Xubuntu and in both cases, my system goes blackscreen as soon as my user logs in (and it's stuck on auto log on). In semi rare cases, I get enough screen time to log out to lightdm (currently using under xubuntu), in which case, I can log back in with TDE and use my system. When my system goes black, all virtual terminals are blacked out. I cannot tell if my keypresses (ctrl-alt-f*) are received. The xorg.0.log is not informative. Here's the rest of my info. I don't know where else to look for errors. I made sure I tested this under a clean profile. Thanks! ~$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l ~$ Uname -a Linux hixoltage 4.2.0-19-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 11 11:38:40 UTC 2015 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux ~$ sudo aptitude i kubuntu-default-settings-trinity 4:14.0.2-0ubun 4:14.0.2-0ubun i kubuntu-desktop-trinity 4:14.0.2-0ubun 4:14.0.2-0ubun ~$ dmesg http://pastebin.com/r91vfr1E ~$ cat /var/log/syslog http://pastebin.com/uaNkBkaV -- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler - Albert Einstein <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo Da Vinci <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Da_Vinci> Perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away - Antoine de Saint Exupéry <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Saint_Exup%C3%A9ry> Keep It Simple Stupid - Kelly Johnson <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Johnson>

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Re: [trinity-users] no sound level between much too loud and none on
by Kate Draven 15 Dec '15

15 Dec '15

> # lspcidrake vv | grep snd > snd_intel8x0 : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (rev: 03) > # lsmod | sort | grep snd > ac97_bus 16384 1 snd_ac97_codec > snd 69632 12 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0,snd_timer,snd_pcm > snd_ac97_codec 106496 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_intel8x0 36864 4 > snd_pcm 102400 2 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0 > snd_timer 24576 1 snd_pcm > soundcore 16384 1 snd > # aplay -l > **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** > card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > Installed packages possibly affecting behavior: > alsa-plugins-pulse-config-1.0.28-6.mga5 > alsa-tools-1.0.28-1.mga5 > alsa-utils-1.0.28-1.mga5 > aumix-text-2.9.1-6.mga5 > libalsa2-1.0.28-1.mga5 > libalsa-data-1.0.28-1.mga5 > libalsa-oss0-1.0.28-4.mga5 > libalsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.28-6.mga5 > libpulseaudio0-5.0-6.mga5 > libpulsecommon5.0-5.0-6.mga5 > libpulsecore5.0-5.0-6.mga5 > libpulseglib20-5.0-6.mga5 > pulseaudio-5.0-6.mga5 > pulseaudio-client-config-5.0-6.mga5 > pulseaudio-module-gconf-5.0-6.mga5 > pulseaudio-module-x11-5.0-6.mga5 > pulseaudio-utils-5.0-6.mga5 > task-pulseaudio-2011.0-6.mga5 > trinity-arts-1.5.10-14.0.2_1.mga5 > trinity-kmix-14.0.2-1.mga5 > > Changing main kmix volume slider has no effect. > > Changing mixer main volume has only two effects: > > 1-all the way down = no sound > 2-any other position = distorted much too loud sound > > Any suggestions? > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- First, make sure you have select the right output. Sometimes that's one thing that goes wrong, even with single card setups. Usually there are several controls that determine the file vol and quality. Master, PCM and, depending on your card, something in the Switches tab. In my case (soundblaster audigy) it's bass boost or whatever it's called. Try dropping the PCM (if you have one) down to about half way and then adjust the master. If that fails: Run alsaconf or the like to reset your card's settings. If that fails: Use the laptop volume controls. Set it to half and try again. That's all I can think of, I hope it helps. Kate

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[trinity-users] no sound level between much too loud and none on Mageia 5
by Felix Miata 14 Dec '15

14 Dec '15

# lspcidrake vv | grep snd snd_intel8x0 : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (rev: 03) # lsmod | sort | grep snd ac97_bus 16384 1 snd_ac97_codec snd 69632 12 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0,snd_timer,snd_pcm snd_ac97_codec 106496 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_intel8x0 36864 4 snd_pcm 102400 2 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 24576 1 snd_pcm soundcore 16384 1 snd # aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Installed packages possibly affecting behavior: alsa-plugins-pulse-config-1.0.28-6.mga5 alsa-tools-1.0.28-1.mga5 alsa-utils-1.0.28-1.mga5 aumix-text-2.9.1-6.mga5 libalsa2-1.0.28-1.mga5 libalsa-data-1.0.28-1.mga5 libalsa-oss0-1.0.28-4.mga5 libalsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.28-6.mga5 libpulseaudio0-5.0-6.mga5 libpulsecommon5.0-5.0-6.mga5 libpulsecore5.0-5.0-6.mga5 libpulseglib20-5.0-6.mga5 pulseaudio-5.0-6.mga5 pulseaudio-client-config-5.0-6.mga5 pulseaudio-module-gconf-5.0-6.mga5 pulseaudio-module-x11-5.0-6.mga5 pulseaudio-utils-5.0-6.mga5 task-pulseaudio-2011.0-6.mga5 trinity-arts-1.5.10-14.0.2_1.mga5 trinity-kmix-14.0.2-1.mga5 Changing main kmix volume slider has no effect. Changing mixer main volume has only two effects: 1-all the way down = no sound 2-any other position = distorted much too loud sound Any suggestions? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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dcop and x files
by Kate Draven 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Here are the dcop and xsession-errors files. I think there's something wrong with a LOT of minetypes. koffice doesn't recognize it's own native file files. Maybe someone can make heads of tails of it Thanks Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] Mouse freezes with kmail (trinity)
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

On Thursday 10 December 2015 18:29:31 Kate Draven wrote: > > Sometimes in the edition of a mail, with a copy/paste in the text, > > my mouse freezes (not the keyboard), > > I'm blocked to go on, I have to wait about 10 seconds, > > to retrieve the mouse normally. > > I changed the mouse but it doesn't resolve the problem. > > (idem). > > André > I've experienced the same thing. I thought it was just a pair of > bad laptops. Kate : My computer is a PC workstation. André

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Mouse freezes with kmail (trinity)
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hello, Sometimes in the edition of a mail, with a copy/paste in the text, my mouse freezes (not the keyboard), I'm blocked to go on, I have to wait about 10 seconds, to retrieve the mouse normally. I changed the mouse but it doesn't resolve the problem. (idem). André

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Desktop Not Refreshing or Reflecting Changes
by Kate Draven 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hi Has anyone experienced the following. Whenever I use konqueror and copy a file over to the desktop or delete. The desktop itself doesn't reflect those changes until I create and delete a new file. For example. In konqueror, I copy a file, minimize to see the desktop, the file isn't there. I then right click, create new text file, the previous file appears. Or if I've deleted a desktop file using konq, I have to repeat the steps in order for the file "ghosts" to disappear. Anyone? Kate

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Menu icons
by Lisi Reisz 08 Dec '15

08 Dec '15

If I create a new menu entry, how do I create an icon for it? Thanks, Lisi

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Sound in Jessie and so on
by Slávek Banko 07 Dec '15

07 Dec '15

Hi all, you might remember the July thread about the nonfunctional sounds in KNotify and other programs on Jessie. If you have encountered the same problem, I have good news for you. Problem was discovered (was confirmed my assumption that it has a relationship with mime types and libmagic), and treated to the sounds again worked! Updated packages are already available in the preliminary stable builds repository. Development cycle for R14.0.3 is hereby opened :) Related links: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::8649 http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/commit/?id=b0ac7d28 Cheers -- Slávek

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Linux based mobile systems
by Robert Peters 06 Dec '15

06 Dec '15

Hello, What experience does anyone have with Linux based mobile operating systems, as alternatives to Android and iOS? Especially any with a possibility to include Trinity elements. Robert

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Build Script
by Jonay Sanz 06 Dec '15

06 Dec '15

Hi there is there any build script to help people to build the whole environment? Thanks!

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Source Tarball Mirrors
by Jagged O'Neill 06 Dec '15

06 Dec '15

High again, I remember mirror servers being a topic multiple times recently, but iirc, that was about system specific repositories. Now I'm trying to download 14.0.2 to compile it myself, and I have (been) navigated to http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/releases/R14.0.2/downloads.html In the second-last line it says: The high speed file mirror currently in use was selected at random. All mirror information is available on the main Trinity project page at https://www.trinitydesktop.org. I don't find any mirror info there... not even the word "mirror". I also searched the wiki, with an astonishing little number of hits, one related to GIT ("check out the entire source tree from mirror"), another to "Building KDE 3.5 with Konstruct", which appears to be quite obsolete, despite it's more or less recent timestamp from 2014-05-07, and the last one about "ULab NIUInstallNotes", where I guess that it's not about the source tarballs. I also looked through other pages, without finding any hint about mirrors, so my question: there seems to be a list of mirrors maintained, but it doesn't seem to be visible to the end users, only to scripts, on which the user has to rely? I'm asking, because connections to the mirror at fau.de are not particularly stable from my home net. Using "wget -c", mileages vary, but the per-session volume is below 200kB, which makes it tiresome to download a 200MB archive. Also, the mirror can't be choosen so randomly, since I _always_ end up at fau.de. Any links? Thanks in advance, Jagged PS: anyone having the R14.0.2-core.tar on their box, could you please run "tar tf" on it and send the output? --- thanks again. -- valgrind python -c 'for i in range(1,1): print(i)' 2>&1 | grep error

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[trinity-users] r14 mouse pointer missing in Jessie
by Felix Miata 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, Trinity added tonight. Using startx rather than any DM. Mouse can be used to select and click, but no way to tell where pointer is until it hovers something that changes on hover. Same problem in IceWM. Booting openSUSE Leap instead, pointer works normally in IceWM. Both evdev and mouse input drivers are installed. Google can't find anything helpful except WRT *buntu, rsyslog, arm or raspberry pi. Anyone here had this happen and/or know a fix? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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December ISO
by alistair izzard 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

I have released the December ISO featuring the 14.0.2 release of Trinity in both 32 and 64bit, the base is PCLinuxOS and is updated as of the 3rd of December 64bit is EFI aware (you will need to burn to dvd to use it) http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com Alie

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imaping an existing kmail maild atabase
by Gene Heskett 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

Greetings all; There are times when I would find it expedient to be able to run kmail on one of the other machines I have trinity installed on, which isn't all of them. How hard would it be to setup a server on this machine, which has R14.0.2 on it, all working as a pop client from 2 external mail accounts I have, referencing the nominally 12Gb of an email corpus here, so I could access it from a kmail session on another machine, still on my local network? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Preliminary stable builds on the move
by Slávek Banko 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

Hi everyone, who is currently uses preliminary stable builds repository as you have surely noticed, the final R14.0.2 was released. At this time packages in preliminary stable builds repository and official R14.0.2 are both based on an identical source packages. If you used the preliminary stable builds only temporarily, you can now switch to official packages. This is the best time because here are waiting updates to upload into prelinary stable builds. You have been warned ;) If you are using prelinary stable builds deliberately, you can look forward to that soon will launch the first upload of packages for the new target R14.0.3. Thank you for your attention :) -- Slávek

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Please Ignore - Just Testing
by Michael Howard 03 Dec '15

03 Dec '15

Please excuse and ignore this message (if it arrives) I'm having problems receiving messages from the list(s). -- Mike Howard

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mobile phone sync with TDE - how the pro is doing it
by deloptes 03 Dec '15

03 Dec '15

Hi I have one very important question as well. How are you guys/pros syncing your mobile phones with TDE. Years ago I worked on opensync, which died because of syncml. I am also following the story of syncevolution, but they provided only support for kde4+ I recall the time (must be 10y ago) when I had no issue to sync up my palm III with KDE ... and after this all went wrong. Since the time I have a smart phone it does not work for me. I would never use an external service that is not under my control, but I could run a service on my public server. (Working) solutions are highly appreciated thanks in advance regards

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Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.2 Released!
by Timothy Pearson 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

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