tde-users November 2022

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TDE Devuan repository glitch
by William Morder 23 Nov '22

23 Nov '22

Not sure what caused this weirdness, but I thought it best to make a report, just in case it actually matters. I was trying to find a desktop calculator that I actually like, and among those that I downloaded was kcalc-trinity, which I've used before. But when I downloaded my list of packages and dependencies, I kept getting an error message: Err:1 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-testing chimaera/main amd64 kcalc-trinity amd64 4:14.1.0~s244-0debian11.0.0+12 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-testing/pool/main/… 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? After trying apt-get build-dep, and then apt-get update, which did not improve my results, it occurred to me to try changing my sources.list from Devuan Chimaera to Debian Bullseye; and presto! worked like a charm. Some may recall an earlier discussion (when Leslie was attempting a new Devuan installation), I posited my opinion that there is probably no difference between these packages when it comes to third-party repositories (such as Trinity itself). From what I can tell, third-party developers thus far do not create special Devuan packages, and most do not even acknowledge the existence of Devuan, so Debian packages work just fine. For the Trinity repositories, I assume that the link to Chimaera packages is just a redirect to the Debian packages. Otherwise, this would be a reduplication of effort and server space, If this is wrong, I expect to be corrected by somebody who knows better. However, this seems like proof of concept, since the package was available by changing to the Debian links. I do know that Debian and Devuan packages definitely should not be used interchangeably. When Devuan was first forked, this was almost true, except for a few systemd-dependent items, but now they have diverged more and more. These changes do not appear to have prompted third-party developers to create packages specifically for Devuan, but I am sure that this will be changing. It could be that this package alone is missing, or that there is a problem with the link to this server, or that redirection is failing, or whatever. But I did try several times, with the same bad result, and after changing the lines in my sources.list for the Trinity repositories, everything worked like normal. By the way, I am using the PTB repositories now, following Slavek's recent recommendation. Bill

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tde terminal does display ANSI color-controlling
by Uwe Brauer 21 Nov '22

21 Nov '22

Hi When running git log --graph --all --decorate --color=always --pretty=short| git name-rev --stdin | less I see * ESC[33mcommit 9dc21b3902a819796d1ba3bc7654733ab00e6e75 (feature)ESC[mESC[33m (ESC[mESC[36mHEADESC[mESC[33m -> ESC[mESC[32mfeature ESC[mESC[33m)ESC[m However git log --graph --all --decorate --color=always --pretty=short| git name-rev --stdin | less -R Works as expected. Any idea what is wrong in my setting (this happens in tcsh or bash shell) Regards Uwe Brauer -- Warning: Content may be disturbing to some audiences I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against the Ukraine. I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. I support the ban of Russia from SWIFT. I support the EU membership of the Ukraine. https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-v…

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deps-r14 error when installing on MX-Linux
by Thierry de Coulon 18 Nov '22

18 Nov '22

Hello all, I have installed MX-Linux 21 on a laptop (with xfce). For some things I find xfce quite nice to use, but I decided to install TDE too (actually I have one user configured to start xfce and another TDE). I followed the wiki and created a tde.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, downloaded the keyring and apt-get updated. - Everything installed fine (using the preliminary builds) and TDE is running OK - However, when running apt-get update I got this (at the end of the update): Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/cnf-update-db", line 26, in <module> col.create(db) File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py", line 95, in create self._fill_commands(con) File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py", line 143, in _fill_commands self._parse_single_contents_file(con, f, fp.stdout) File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py", line 282, in _parse_single_contents_file priority = component_priorities[component] KeyError: 'deps-r14' It does not seem to hurt, but I wonder what it is. Using the regular stable release has the same effect, commenting all lines in tde.list results in no message, so it's linked to the tde repositories somehow. Thierry

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TDE R14.0.13 released, new target...
by Slávek Banko 17 Nov '22

17 Nov '22

Hi all, you might have been used to the fact that after the release of a new version, a new development window was soon opened and new packages started arriving in the PSB repository. You've probably noticed that this time is different. We are planning to move forward and release the first version of the new series - R14.1.0 - at the next release cycle. There are no active plans for another release in the R14.0.x series, but for now we're leaving the possibility open for a R14.0.14 window in case there are some important reasons to release such a version. Therefore, here is important information regarding the apt sources of PSB and PTB. If you would like to get involved now in testing the upcoming R14.1.0, you can set your apt sources to PTB repository and you will get the current state of R14.1.0~pre. You don't have to worry that this is a "testing" version - it's very stable and suitable for everyday use and packages are available for all supported distributions - old stable, stable, testing, unstable. Some time in future, when it will be clear that nothing prevents the next release to be R14.1.0, the content of the PSB repository will be updated to match the PTB. Until then, there will be no activity in the PSB repository. We will inform you before this update is made. If you are using PSB and wish to stay on the current stable release, this is a good time to switch from PSB to official release sources. Thank you for your support! Cheers -- The TDE dev team PSB - Preliminary Stable Builds: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds PTB - Preliminary Testing Builds: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Testing_Builds

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Can't get rid of spurious TDE menu entry
by Mike Bird 16 Nov '22

16 Nov '22

I can't get rid of a spurious empty KPDF entry in my TDE menu. If I delete or cut it and save it's still there. Otherwise TDE menu editor works correctly and I can add and remove entries. I've looked in ~/.trinity/share/config/* and /usr/share/menu/* and can't find anything that might be causing it. Is there anything else I should check or do? Thanks, --Mike

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kmail in new computer
by Christian Schmitz 16 Nov '22

16 Nov '22

Hi everyone: I am migrating from a desktop PC to a notebook. I perform the usual movement, but no sucess: 1) copy <home>/Mail folder The notebook kmail ( new) does not recognize the mails into Mail directory 2) search any config file I didnt found where is located the kmail config files. Any help will be appreciated. Best Regards Christian -- Be Free, Be Linux

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where is lock session log in as a different user
by Uwe Brauer 15 Nov '22

15 Nov '22

Hi I am on Ubuntu 16.04 and trintiy 4:14.0.11~pre46-0ubuntu16.04.0+7 Now I swore I did this for years: lock session and log in as a different user, without really logging out and in. But in the attached screenshot, I cannot find this entry anymore! What do I miss? Thanks and regards Uwe Brauer -- Warning: Content may be disturbing to some audiences I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against the Ukraine. I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. I support the ban of Russia from SWIFT. I support the EU membership of the Ukraine. https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-v…

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upgrade starting TDM though not already running
by Felix Miata 12 Nov '22

12 Nov '22

When my /proc/cmdline includes a 3, and/or when # systemctl get-default multi-user.target and TDM is not running, doing an apt-get upgrade that includes a newer tdm, starts tdm, wresting the console from whatever I am doing while the upgrade is in process. I don't want that to happen. It's very disturbing. Is there a way to configure it only to restart, but never start, as a result of an apt/apt-get/aptitude installation or upgrade process? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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bounce message help
by fjd 11 Nov '22

11 Nov '22

In a way this is a test; if the message shows up, then the bounce message (see below) is false so excuse the noise. I did write to users-owner(a)trinitydesktop.org but got no reply. Hopefully resolved so pardon the noise. fjd -------- Your subscription has been disabled on the users(a)trinitydesktop.org mailing list because it has received a number of bounces indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to moelmoel2714(a)gmail.com. You may want to check with your mail administrator for more help. If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the mailing list owner at users-owner(a)trinitydesktop.org

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TDEnetwork do not connect
by Christian Schmitz 11 Nov '22

11 Nov '22

Hi everyone: I install on my notebook a Opensuse Tumbleweed all fresh. Note that Opensuse first install plasma. So i add the repositories and install TDE with no problem If i open the session in plasma the network applet works fine. I can see the list of wifi network, I can select one to connect, and i can connect successfully to the wifi. If i close the session and open TDE the "world" applet appear on grey and cant connect. Sadly i dont know where is any log or how know what is happening: The scenary is this:: 1) Tde applet main screen say: Wired disconnected Wireles Connection (wlo1) My network_5G My network_5G (2 times the same network) not appear any other network, i cant find "scan" option 2) If i click "my network_5G" the gear turn for few seconds and then say : Connection attemp failed unkonw SSID 3) Connect to new network: -Appear the list of my networks. -Select My network_2.4G - Open a popup: Unable save network connection Potential causes: Insufficient permissions NetworkManager not running DBUS failure Network Manager is running: systemctl list-unit-files --state:enable --no-pager | grep -i "network" NetworkManager-dispatcher.service Enabled Disabled NetworkManager-wait-online.service Enabled Disabled NetworkManager.service Enabled Disabled At this moment i dont know how follow this. Thanks in advance. Best Regards for everyone Christian Schmitz -- Be Free, Be Linux

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