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GT Infra
by natchiagenter＠gmail.com 24 Feb '21

24 Feb '21

Our aim is to provide customers quality living space with international standards. As location and quality are the major factors, we ensure that our projects fulfils this. We are consciously focused on getting the projects that work towards building apartments that are eco-friendly, provides excellent amenities, located in the prime location and RERA Approved. We believe in absolute customer satisfaction and we maintain high standards in our services. https://www.gtinfra.com/

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Re: To receive my Yahoo emails with kmail-trinity
by deloptes 24 Feb '21

24 Feb '21

ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote: > On Wednesday 17 February 2021 20:10:49 ajh-valmer wrote: >> Why I cannot receive my emails with Kmail (trinity) with a Yahoo account, >> (password never recognised), all emails configurations are good, >> but only by the Yahoo Webmail ? >> Thanks, André > > Hello, > > No answer to my question ? > > With the MUA Thunderbird, it works, but not with Kmail (TDE). > Is Kmail able to work with Mail Yahoo Server ? > > I'm sure that they are members in this list who have a Yahoo account. > > pop.mail.yahoo.com > Port SSL : 995 > <mail-user>@yahoo.com > > Hope to receive a help. Thanks, I tried IMAP, but with no success. [AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] LOGIN Invalid credentials https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-with-imap-1174534 good article - might be you need the "app password". regards

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Re: Update Chimaera (bullseye) + TDE 14.1 works fine
by Michele Calgaro 24 Feb '21

24 Feb '21

On 2021/02/18 10:14 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Hi Michele! > > Anno domini 2021 Thu, 18 Feb 22:03:30 +0900 > Michele Calgaro scripsit: >> On 2021/02/18 05:18 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >>> Now TDE 14.1 ... this is very nice:) The volume control uses the incerement steps that are configured (14.0.1 did not). Automounting usb flashdrives brings up konqueror (as I configured it on 14.0.1 - that was gone in prev. version of 14.1). What's gone is the entry in the context menue that opened konqeror in the actual mountpount of a device. So I'm back to my quest of "media://":) Since this email, two things have now been added to R14.1.0-dev. 1) "Open Medium System Folder" command has been added to camera devices too. This was done few days ago and I mistakenly emails only Nik instead of the whole ML. 2) "Open Medium System Folder" is now available for both mounted and unmounted medium. If the medium is unmounted, it will be mounted and then the system folder open. The action is also available in the notification dialog that pops up when you insert a medium (usb stick, camera, cdrom/dvd, ...) and can be set to "auto action" for automatic execution each time a medium with the same mime type is inserted. Both options are only available in R14.1.0-dev and not in R14.0.x . Cheers Michele

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How to achieve the legal status of the project?
by Slávek Banko 23 Feb '21

23 Feb '21

Hi all, in previous emails, I sent information about the status of the project, we discussed the migration of services and also about CLA vs. DCO. Now it is time to open another big topic: how to achieve a legal status of the project? Here are some questions and several possible solutions. Again, I apologize in advance for the long mail, but it's an important topic, so it deserves thorough information. 1. Fiscal host. This seems to be the simplest option, which can give us the way to manage our own funds - that is, to receive donations and pay expenses, while the fiscal host will keep accounts and provide legal status for the necessary legislation. We have previously discussed this possibility here. And we discussed in this context about OpenCollective, which can provide such a fiscal host. It is very good that OpenCollective performs financial management very transparently. I believe that this transparency can be motivating for contributors. It is also good that it is possible to choose between a fiscal host in the US and the EU. Of course, they deduct some percentage of the income we will earn, but in my opinion - "90% of something" is better than "100% of nothing". pros + simple + very transparent + choice between EU or US cons + only for funds management Note: I've also researched other platforms for maintaining donations, but OpenCollective seems to me best suited for software teams like ours. 2. A company that focuses on providing legal status for open source projects. There are companies that focus on providing legal status and services for open source projects. Such companies can provide not only a fiscal host, but also litigation assistance. They can also act as holders of things - trademarks, domain names, servers, etc. In addition to big names like the Linux Foundation, there are those where we are more likely to have a chance to get their interest - Software Freedom Conservancy, or Dyne.org. The SF Conservancy - https://sfconservancy.org/ - seems to be very well established. This should guarantee their reliability. Under their roof are many famous projects - GIT, QEMU, OpenWRT, Samba, Wine, Inkscape,... see https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/ Although there is not as great transparency in fund management as on OpenCollective, SF Conservancy looks very good. You can find the necessary information on the website - about the services provided, the conditions, and how to apply for membership. Of course, they also deduct some percentage of the income we will earn, but it is clear that it brings useful value. pros + provides more than just a fiscal host + looks proven and trustworthy cons + less transparency of funds than OpenCollective + no choice of location - only US Dyne.org - https://dyne.org/ - is another company providing such services. It provides legal status for Devuan, for example. However, here I have a few reservations for which it would be necessary to find out the answer first. Their website is, in short, "modern", meaning it is almost impossible to find any useful information. It is not clear what team is behind this company and how trustworthy it is. Furthermore, I don't feel good about how they present covered software as theirs - as if they were developing it. Sure, they may be trademark owners, but the SF Conservancy approach, where projects mention them as members, makes a much better impression on me. If we'd like to think about Dyne.org, it's necessary to find out a lot of information here that I haven't been able to find out by researching the web. pros + provides more than just a fiscal host cons + uncertainty about credibility + less transparency in all respects + no choice of location - only EU 3. Our own non-profit organization. The option of founding our own organization may seem the most attractive, but at the same time it represents the greatest overhead burden for us. Because the current active team members want to focus on code maintenance and development, we would have to hire someone trusted to deal with the legislation of such an organization. We would probably also have to hire some lawyers to deal with the legislation to create the company. Because we do not have our own funds and there is no certainty what income we will be able to earn, there is no certainty how we will be able to pay such people. I see too many pitfalls here for this way. pros + we would have our own independent organization cons + too much overhead for the team leader + the need to find your own solution for the transparency of the funds + the risk of neglecting legislative duties + the need to hire our own accountant I ask for your opinions and comments on the above options. So far, I have not made any specific request from any of the listed entities - I have only done a research of available information. Thank you. -- Slávek

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tderandrtray question
by Thierry de Coulon 23 Feb '21

23 Feb '21

Hello all, I don't know if there might be a bug here. I am running TDE on a desktop. Every time I update/upgrade TDE, I get error messsages from tderandrtray which, from what I can guess from my notebook, is a system tray applet for screen rotation and resizing. This message does not appear at once, so obviously tderandrtray does some sort of check at times and runs into a problem (backtrace output is provided). I only saw this on my main machine, not on the video/games machine that shares the same kvm switch, so I'd guess it has to to with the video card (AMD Raven on the computer with the problem, Radeon RX on the other) and/or the motherboard (both Gigabyte with AMD CPU, but not the same). My solution has been to rename /opt/trinity/bin/tderandrtray to tderandrtray_old, however I have to do this every time and probably not everyuser will know where to look and what to do. Thierry

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Ubuntu LiveCDs
by Jacob daemonspudguy Tice 23 Feb '21

23 Feb '21

I noticed the LiveCDs are built with LTS releases. Why aren't they built for all releases? Is it a time thing?

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Kmail Questions
by Edward 22 Feb '21

22 Feb '21

I have a few questions re Kmail included with TDE, but the Kmail web site doesn't seem to address. * 1. Does Kmail allow multiple accounts? * 2. Does Kmail have an option to view full (or raw) e-mail headers? (I use full headers in Thunderbird to detect spam.) * 3. When Kmail creates an account for the first time (when I tried it in Fedora under native KDE), it also wants to create a 'wallet' to store passwords. Is there a way to make that 'wallet' optional? Thunderbird doesn't use one (as far as I know). Thanks in advance. -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience.

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yakuake misbehaving
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 20 Feb '21

20 Feb '21

HI people, have an odd one. I fixed Einstein's computer, all good. I don't want to recreate all the users so I just recycled. One is perfectly fine, but his has one funny thing. Yakuake (trintiy) show "sh #" rather than "localhost" It's using and saving konsole's profile (konsole is behaving normally). Tried computer uninstall and reinstall. I don't want to trash the user and start over again. Is there anything I should look at? I've checked all the usual but any suggestion from any starting point is welcomed. Cheers, Kate PS I hate crackmonkeys.

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Update Chimaera (bullseye) + TDE 14.1 works fine
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 18 Feb '21

18 Feb '21

Just to give a heads-up for all that want to upgrade from Beowulf to Chimaera: it works - and TDE 14.1 is better than ever. Beowulf to chimaera is not a simple "apt update; apt dist-upgrade". First purge all GNOME libraries on your system. Then you'll need some passes of "apt upgrade", check for packages on hold ("apt-mark showhold"), update these, puge the chache, check for packages without candidate ("apt-show version|grep 'No avail'"), purge if unused, check again ... the whole process took ~ 3 hours on my t60/t61. Most time was spent on downloading packages. The upgrade process will most likely unistall libreoffice/freecad/zim/..., just reinstall that later. "terminator 0.96" does not work any more, 2.1.0 basicly works (colors are off, fonts need to be installed ... gtk3 crap after all). linuxcnc-uspace from the repos does not work due to some missing python2 suff. Kernel needs to be installed manually when you come from BPO. Now TDE 14.1 ... this is very nice :) The volume control uses the incerement steps that are configured (14.0.1 did not). Automounting usb flashdrives brings up konqueror (as I configured it on 14.0.1 - that was gone in prev. version of 14.1). What's gone is the entry in the context menue that opened konqeror in the actual mountpount of a device. So I'm back to my quest of "media://" :) To sum it up: IMO the upgrade is worth it. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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OFF TOPIC!!! = Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech = OFF TOPIC!!!
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

> On Monday 15 February 2021 23:00:57 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > And got caught by spamassassin. So I've not recourse but to copy/paste: > > Is there an rpm or apt-get comment that can batch remove repeat rpms. > The old version of rather. > > A dimwit neighbour decide not allow synaptic to finish updating and force > shut > it down to go watch football (american). Now he keeps getting warnings of > multiple rpm versions. I can't go fix it for obvious reasons. So I'm > hoping > to give him some command that would resolve this. Otherwise, he has to > drop > off. He's "extremely social" if you know what I mean. Sadly he's a good > old > friend's son, I can't really say no. > > This is the same person who decided his new snowblower could clean > his "short" > drive way without engine oil. > > Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech... > > I know I'm going to end up having to do it, but I thought I'd ask. > > Kate > > From Gene: > > After 86 years, my dearest kate, I have learned that trying to head off > such behaviour is essentially thankless, they cannot be made to > understand that you are trying to help when you object to such self > destructive behaviour. > > Sometimes its best to let them sort it out themselves. His answer is > probably to reinstall, probably loseing any work he may have already > done with it, including his accounts receivable, which could be an > expensive lesson. > > If you have to do the reinstall, you should become the first user, with a > longer pw you never share, and no root pw, making him a non-priviledged > user, but make sure sshd is running and that you are the only one that > can run sudo. That way you can log in and do maintenance/updates etc > from your place, undisturbed by prying eyes. > > Such self-defense is not a personality problem. All he needs to learn is > to shut off the monitor only and leave it running, 24/7. Just make sure > it has enough memory so he can watch football at the same time you are > sorting his latest basket of rattlesnakes. If his network connection is > dynamic so his net address is volatile, have a late boot script email > you its address anytime its rebooted. > > Good luck girl, stay safe and well. Wise words. I'm repairing for his mother's sake. Steve, never had the pwds. His brother ran the update with simple instruction. Leave it alone, til he returns with his mother. Didn't work out. Oh well. Cheers, Kate

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