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default display manager in Ubuntu 16.04 + trinity
by Uwe Brauer 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Hi I have recently installed trinity on Ubuntu 16.04 in two ways 1. Installing Ubuntu 16.04 first and then add the trinity repos 2. Using the livecd. There are subtle difference. One concern the default-display-manager In both cases I have set it to /opt/trinity/bin/tdm But while the login screen looks relatively modern in the first case (it has the log of powered by trinity), the second installations log screen has the charme of the 90, no offense intended. Any explanation for this behaviour? Regards Uwe Brauer

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: starting kweather?
by Kate Draven 04 Jul '18

04 Jul '18

> William Morder wrote: > > > When I was a child, I used to think that the music and the announcers and > > other voices somehow lived inside the radio and TV. Then when I got a bit > > older, I came to understand that they sent out their broadcasts from a > > studio, a building that was some distance away. Since I had seen > > television shows like Ed Sullivan, with musicians playing their songs, I > > knew that they had instruments and equipment, but I was puzzled about how > > they could change so quickly from one group to another. My theory was that > > they must have several different rooms, and that some music group would be > > playing in one room while another would be setting up in another, and so > > on. > > > > This is exactly why women tend to humanize us lonely bachelors, and make > > them presentable in public, and to brighten up a home; it has something to > > do with that tendency. The world would be a very dull place without a > > little irrationality to make us bounce through life, rather than scraping > > along, in deadly seriousness, freed from superstiton, but weighed down by > > the irresistible force of gravity. > > I would say it is simply pragmatics over mother instinct - it's just > nature - be it "God made us so" or Nature or Evolution. > > regards > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Silly boys.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] starting kweather?
by Kate Draven 03 Jul '18

03 Jul '18

> Am Sonntag 01 Juli 2018 schrieb William Morder: > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 14:04:31 dep wrote: > > > i just installed kwether and, when nothing appeared on the kmenu, all of > > > kde toys, which did appear -- but not kweather. nor will it start from > > > the command prompt by typing either kweather or kweather-trinity. what am > > > i doing wrong? > > > > > > âdep > > > > Isn't that an app that you can add to the panel? I don't use it, so I > > hesitate to make suggestions, and don't want to screw up my own panel with > > experiments. However, as I recall, you right-click to unlock the panel, the > > right-click again to add apps. > > I can confirm that. Right-click on the unlocked kicker panel, choose "Add > applet..." and a nice box opens with a list where you should find kweather. > > Regards, > Stefan > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan You forgot to tell him, he needs to offer the computer chocolate as well. Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] today's immature bothersome question
by Kate Draven 03 Jul '18

03 Jul '18

> On Monday 02 July 2018 18:30:34 Mike Bird wrote: > > > On Mon July 2 2018 07:36:36 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 02 July 2018 09:01:14 Mike Bird wrote: > > > > On Mon July 2 2018 05:34:50 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Monday 02 July 2018 07:48:29 Mike Bird wrote: > > > > > > ls -l /etc/*.d/S*alsa* > > > > > > > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Oct 5 > > > > > 2015 /etc/rcS.d/S21alsa-utils -> ../init.d/alsa-utils > > > > > > > > Hi Gene, > > > > > > > > That's good. There's a good chance Kate's suggestion of checking > > > > the controls in kmix will solve your problem. > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > BTDT enough times to pay for the t-shirt. Tain't there. > > > > OK, so we know ALSA is set to start automatically. I don't think > > we know yet that it is working as system sounds can happen without > > ALSA. > > > > (1) Please use speaker-test before login to determine whether > > ALSA works before login. Make a note of which speakers it > > finds. Can you hear them all? ctrl-C to stop it when you > > get bored. > > > > (2) What precisely tain't there? Kmix? Some slider you were > > expecting? > > > > (3) In Control Center / Sound & Multimedia / Sound System is it > > enabled on the General tab? > > > > (4) ... and is networked sound enable? (Easier if it is not.) > > Not now, was though. > > > (5) ... and which Audio Device is selected on the Hardware tab? > > > > BTW, a possible kludge for your situation might be to disable > > "restore volumes on login" in kmix / settings / configure kmix. > > > > --Mike > > I won't slap down on a bible, but I faintly recall setting that option > way back when. And it had no effect, but I think its still on. Due to > poor gain in my speakers, most of kmix has been wide open for years. > > > -- > Cheers, Gene Heskett Ok there's a clue. Grab some headphones and see it there's any sound. Running speakers at max can blow their voice coils. Kate PS we should change the title of this thread to "The Sound of Silence"

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Bugszilla summary
by Michele Calgaro 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

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today's immature bothersome question
by dep 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

in my seemingly never-ending attempt to equip the GPD device with TDE and optimize its configuration, i'm trying to set the screen not to just blank but to power down when the screensaver is called. but when i get to kcontrol > system administration > monitor & display, i get: Will not save configuration Configuration file "/home/dep/trinity/share/config/kiccconfigrc" not writeable. Please contsact your system administrator. So I got up and walked into the other room, where there is a mirror, and contacted myself face-to-face, but it got no better. And looking in the referenced directory I see that it, alone among the config files there, has root ownership and instead of the plain text file icon has one of the little question-mark icons signifying an unknown filetype. if i try to open it with kate, it is blank. it is *not* a symlink. before i break smething i thought i'd ask -- is there any reason this file has these atributes? dep Sent withProtonMailSecure Email. Because privacy matters.

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: starting kweather?
by Kate Draven 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

> William Morder wrote: > > > You are anthropomorphizing your computer, and childishly ascribing to a > > machine your own personal likes and dislikes. > > > > Everybody knows that computers run on Guinnness Extra Stout. > > There has been a study ages ago, that people (especially women) tend to > handle computers as human beings. Funny but true :)so this is nothing > unusual. > There was a story I heard that in the 1920ties older woman in Germany put a > cake infront of the radio so that the homunculus inside would have > something to eat :) > > regards > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Studies have also shown such behavior to be the product of a superior mind. They also show that things tend to last infinitely longer in the hands of such people. More importantly. Cake? That's ridiculous! Everyone knows homunculus' only eat cheesecake. Kate PS I think we should end it here otherwise this will be yet another lengthy OT string. I blame Bill.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] starting kweather?
by Kate Draven 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

> On Monday 02 July 2018 04:47:06 Kate Draven wrote: > > > Am Sonntag 01 Juli 2018 schrieb William Morder: > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 14:04:31 dep wrote: > > > > > i just installed kwether and, when nothing appeared on the kmenu, all > > > > > of kde toys, which did appear -- but not kweather. nor will it start > > > > > from the command prompt by typing either kweather or > > > > > kweather-trinity. what > > > > am > > > > > > > i doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > > âdep > > > > > > > > Isn't that an app that you can add to the panel? I don't use it, so I > > > > hesitate to make suggestions, and don't want to screw up my own panel > > > > with experiments. However, as I recall, you right-click to unlock the > > > > panel, > > > > the > > > > > > right-click again to add apps. > > > > > > I can confirm that. Right-click on the unlocked kicker panel, choose "Add > > > applet..." and a nice box opens with a list where you should find > > > kweather. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Stefan > > > > You forgot to tell him, he needs to offer the computer chocolate as well. > > > > Kate > > > > > > You are anthropomorphizing your computer, and childishly ascribing to a > machine your own personal likes and dislikes. > > Everybody knows that computers run on Guinnness Extra Stout. > > Bill > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Heretic! The Chocolate Gods will punish you for your hedonism.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] today's immature bothersome question
by Kate Draven 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

> On Mon July 2 2018 03:31:56 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Yes, I can hear system noises before I login. Login and they become muted > > and firefox is silent, until I stop whatever FF is playing and issue the > > alsoctl restore command, which reports a can't do that, system is busy, > > but when I restart FF playing whatever, it then works till the next > > reboot. > > System sounds before login may be happening without ALSA so at the > moment I'm not sure whether ALSA is working before login. > > You could try speaker-test (ALSA white noise generator) to see if > ALSA is working before login (or aplay if you have something playable). > > Let's check that ALSA is set to start automatically. Do you have > > ls -l /etc/*.d/S*alsa* > > You should have a link called something like /etc/rcS.d/S16alsa-utils > to /etc/init.d/alsa-utils. > > --Mike > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- You should also try turning up all the vols. I have a audigy sound blaster. I can play amarok (front) with one vol, but smplayer uses another (center). I spent 10 mins trying to figure out why amarok played but smplayer didn't until I decided to play with the kmix settings. Also install all the alsa related controls. In case there's a mute in there. Good luck, Kate

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starting kweather?
by dep 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

i just installed kwether and, when nothing appeared on the kmenu, all of kde toys, which did appear -- but not kweather. nor will it start from the command prompt by typing either kweather or kweather-trinity. what am i doing wrong? dep Sent withProtonMailSecure Email. Because privacy matters.

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